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ParticipantI thought much better of Doris Burk
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ParticipantDSJ needs to go for both him and for the team.
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ParticipantI hope DSJ leaves – I’m not in the habit of calling out players but he needs to go.
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ParticipantBet those job offers were in the Todd Turner era.
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ParticipantTex granted they haven’t had to but the time is near. All the “auditions” for a replacement have not lived up to expectations.
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ParticipantI’ll not criticize the timing of the announcement until I have some history on it. Maybe it was the thing to do or maybe not. I think we all knew Gott would not be back for the next season. I’m willing to let this play out. Let the talking heads explode with rancor.
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ParticipantWith the 24×7 news cycle thing filtering into every aspect of life we will always get these sort of things. That said we have not run a major coach search without the jackals nipping at our ankles.
My take on the whole issue is Gott did a few goods things and a lot of not so good things. Regardless the result was unacceptable (just as Lowe’s was). I do think as a program we might be a half step better than the Lowe years but the question (as always) is can we make that next step. A prospective coach that is afraid of Huckleberry or the Rat is not the right coach for NC State. A coach that can’t or won’t be a coach is not either. I hope we can have a coach search for a change that is not a clown show.
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ParticipantDo it right and the chattering class doesn’t matter.
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ParticipantNice try at spin but as Bubba would say “say what”. It could be that way or it could be not. I’m expecting the former.
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Participant“Troll I agree we are getting more interest than in decades. The question is will it happen?
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ParticipantGoing back to my days on campus (mid ’70’s) the women’s games were always a show of heart. I think Morre has grasped that concept. If I was closer to Raleigh I would be attending the women’s games.
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ParticipantTime to move on – either firing now or at the end of the season – I see pros and cons with either. I agree the coming AD change is also a factor but if a good coach is treated well (pay and the other crap from the Admin) that all works. My big concern is the Admin – for decades they have shown little interest in having a quality MBB program. I don’t mean letting a coach run roughshod over the rules I simply mean identifying a reasonable candidate for coach and then supporting that coach. Gott in some ways leaves a program better than he inherited but in other way the opposite. I really enjoyed the Lutz audio – back to his Charlotte days I always thought he was a straight shooter but not vindictive. Our admin could do worse than heed his counsel.
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ParticipantHistory says an NC State coaching search IS hell. Needed in this case but hell regardless.
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Participant‘roo that is exactly as I remember with the addition the rumor was floated that Sloan had “other issues” (maybe like Gott). I never saw any evidence pro or con but that was the story as I remember. Casey was a cheap ass – maybe rightfully so maybe not but I agree the elevation of V to AD so he would get more money was the start of the downfall.
I suspect we lost Holtz because of money and a lack of support in the “jogger incident” Yes he would have left eventually but I dare say not to the NY Jets.
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ParticipantI suspect that happened between Smart and Marshall last time – good strategy if you hold the power. At that time we did not.
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ParticipantAgreed Troll but I don’t consider that entertainment. I don’t relish the downfall but I think the die is cast. Gott did some good but well short of enough.
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ParticipantWhy should I not miss? For the comedy? For the drams? For the rubbernecking aspect? I suspect I will joind the kids and the youth at church tonight. At least I get to see some smiles.
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Participant“no cookies” – sort of sums up the MBB team this year – except maybe Anya.
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ParticipantNever works out – Everett Case, Press Maravich, Norn Sloan, Jimmy V. So in the past it has – sadly we also ran off some of those by continuing to be cheap. At this point I suspect our choices will be limited to the up and comers given the program but even those are not “cheap” these days.
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ParticipantEnd of the season? I think yes. This week? I think not.
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ParticipantI think Archie is a long shot – not impossible but that ship might have sailed. I would have 3rd party contact and if there is some interest I would explore but I doubt he will coach the red and white.
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ParticipantMcC to my point about the likelihood …
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ParticipantGonna take an NCAA championship I think.
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ParticipantQuoting Randy Meisner (ex of the Eagles) – “anyway bye bye”.
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ParticipantAll along I counseled for 5 years but after 6 ain’t no good thing. Time for the AD to act ore move along.
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