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Jigawatts’ statement about State having a severe lack of talent, I think, cuts to the chase as far as the “state” of Wolfpack football since CTC departed.
No defense of Amato is intended, but since Tom O’Brien was hired as our HC, we have had little if any significant talent, with little hope on the horizon in my opinion.
I really don’t have a strong opinion of Coach Doeren one way or another at this point, but as I head out to the stadium this afternoon, I’m not expecting much from us except that we should beat down a physically inferior team. Just how long it’ll take remains to be seen, but I look for it to be decided before halftime.
Just watching Oklahoma run up a 31-0 lead at Tulsa makes me long for a return of real football at CF. I wonder how that would feel again? Not that we’ve ever on Oklahoma’s level, but I’m just wondering how it would feel to at least get back to the point of pounding the cupcakes again rather than struggling against almost every opponent we face.
Thank you for your flattering comments, Greywolf. Believe it or not, I wasn’t trying to speak for anybody else.
I wasn’t trying to lead or follow, but if you’d like me to get out of the way of whatever it is you think I’m standing in the way of, I will GLADLY do so after this 19th season of buying football season tickets.
Gimmicks aren’t what this program needs. But apparently I’m a lone voice in the wilderness here. And that is precisely why I’m bailing after this football season.
I can’t speak for other Wolfpackers who are in their 60s, but to me the black uniforms are more of a fad than they are tradition, and tradition is a big thing with us long-time fans. What is wrong with us wearing the red and white?
Yes, the uniforms look snazzy, but they aren’t OUR traditional colors. They never will BE our traditional colors.
If we had been winning all these past years since Sheridan departed, you would not see this attempt to blot out these unpleasant years with a new look (color). And make no mistake about it, that’s what this is about. Erase the memories of the past 25 years.
What we really need is a new direction, not a new color. We might be wearing black this Saturday and every Saturday this fall, but unless something drastic happens over the course of this season, it’ll be the same old story- a big-budget school in a power conference, trying to move up into the elite class, but struggling just to get past mid-major schools and stay out of the conference cellar.
To the tune of “It’s Beginning To Look A Lot Like Christmas”, sing along:
It’s beginning to look a lot like Tom Reed,
In Doeren’s sophomore year.
But the prettiest sight we’ll see
Will be our AD named Debbie
Singing “wait until next year”!It’s beginning to look a lot like Tom Reed,
In Doeren’s junior year.
But the prettiest sight we’ll see
Will be when mercy-full-e
The final game of the year.It’s beginning to look a lot like Tom Reed,
In Doeren’s senior year.
But the sight we’re gonna see,
You can just about guarantee,
Will be another new coach next year.This schedule reminds me of the Stock Market- it’ll be bullish for the fans buying tickets, but a real bear for the team.
But it’s a far sight better than the lousy schedules we had under Jed, HWSNBN and Low, not to mention football for the past bazillion years.
Texpack: “Years three and four will be when we can start to judge how effective DD has been in recruiting and how good a coach he is.”
If the Wolfpack has another year like the last one, I personally won’t need two more years to evaluate how BAD a coach DD is. For me, it wasn’t just going oh-fer the ACC last season, but it was the way we did it. We got the hell beat out of us in most every aspect of the nine games we lost, and in a tenth one we were thoroughly outplayed by Richmond on our home turf, a game we didn’t deserve to win.
You guys pay a lot more attention to the little things than I do- which recruits we might get, how good this player is at this particular position, how many yards we give up in the 3rd quarter, yadda yadda yadda. But I do pay attention to one thing that has changed at NCSU, and that’s a total lack of big-game talent, or big-play people, on the field. And I don’t see anyone in sight, either.
You guys who keep bashing TOB sound like the Obama crowd who continues to bash GW Bush. Eventually, the guy in charge, even if he’s OUR coach, will have to be held accountable.
The excitement is gone for me because after nearly 20 years of season ticket misery, I now see a second consecutive NCSU football team that doesn’t look like it could spring a big play on Richmond County High School. Whatever happened to the big-play players we used to have? All we seem to have this season is a transfer QB who left Gainesville on less than a successful note, and now he’s become our “hope”?
Lord help us.
I don’t think there’s much doubt that NC has the nation’s best pork barbeque.
As for which restaurant or style is best, try Lexington Barbeque (#1) in Lexington and Wilber’s Barbeque in Goldsboro. It doesn’t get any better than these two.
Stamey’s in Greensboro, Parker’s or Bill’s in Wilson, Red Bridges in Shelby, and B’s in Greenville are also worth a stop.
Here in the Apex area, I still miss OT’s hushpuppies.
No Wolfpack football coach, in my mind anyway, has had a fine season at 5-7.
Not then, not now, not later.
Until the ACC is re-aligned or until Coastal Division teams are no longer able to dodge the best teams almost every season, we will NEVER win in the Atlantic Division. We had better talent in the past and never finished above 3rd in this division, and now Louisville is dumped into the mix. Florida State and Clemson are as far ahead of the rest of the football conference as Duke and UNC are ahead of the rest of the basketball conference (outside of Syracuse and Louisville). FSU and Clemson will ALWAYS be good in football because they’re FOOTBALL schools, the same way that Duke and UNC are basketball schools.
Duke played in Charlotte last December ONLY because Virginia Tech was historically bad and because the Blue Devils (again) did not have to face either Clemson or Florida State. Charlotte proved what we all knew all along- that Duke was there only because of being in the Atlantic Division.
Until we get some real talent here, we’ll continue to be beaten like a drum, even in our lowly conference. With a lousy OOC schedule that apparently will never go away, we will never be able to prove that we belong in the upper half of the Big 5 Conferences. And the talent we need won’t come here as long as we are buried in the Atlantic Division and relegated to the ACC Network vs the likes of ODU and ECU.
What is so hard to figure out here? Our administration needs to either get us out of this stupid alignment, or just get us out of this GD conference, period. Honestly, we’d be better off as an independent.
The probable roadblock here will be the ACC Comish. If State and Duke are allowed to play each other during seasons when the ACC doesn’t allow them to play, God knows what could happen next. Why, Wake Forest might declare that they too should be allowed to play likewise, against UNC.
This attempt to salvage longstanding league rivalries would be frowned on by Boston College, Syracuse and Louisville, who would likely complain that these “local” OOC games would be an unfair travel advantage. And we all know that the rights of the expansion ACC teams MUST be protected in this new and improved ACC.
To hell with what fans want. To hell with economic and geographical common sense. To hell with tradition. To hell with ACC administrators, who will most likely throw every roadblock they can come up with at State, Duke or any other charter-member ACC schools in order to prevent the ludicrous idea that State and Duke meet each season on the gridiron. To hell with the ACC TV Network, who would probably complain that no one outside the NC borders would want to watch their telecasts of a State-Duke game. (But State-Georgia Southern? No problem!)
And to hell with the ACC, who after this coming season will, after 20 seasons of football season ticket purchases, will no longer get one more dollar out of my wallet. The reason isn’t nearly so much the sorry brand of football that’s found a home at C-F nearly as much as it is the sorry brand of league administrators who have hijacked what used to be a great conference, and have tried to turn it into an appetizer leading up to their SEC broadcasts.
Like most others, I’m delighted that Fouler is gone from the AD’s office, but will someone please enlighten us on just how great State’s been since Jed moved away from there?
The upcoming football season shows little hope of much improvement over last season’s disaster. Basketball without Warren definitely looks like a “rebuilding” season, and although I love the great schedule, it probably won’t love us too much. Baseball without Rodon will certainly be an uphill climb to even make the ACCT.
I don’t really care how high we finish in this so-called “Director’s Cup”; all I’m “focused” on is finally winning an ACC Championship in a sport that matters, not finishing at .500. Sadly, I don’t see anybody from one end of the athletic department to the other, including the new recruits, who will bring this about.
I think most fans will like this. I do. If we’re going to be fair to mediocre, then let’s at least play GOOD competition to help us get better, not to mention making the games worth the time and money.
Even a Dallas Cowboys fan would have to agree that the current administration in DC is the worst EVER!
“Most Cowardly” should instead be called what it really is- “WORST”!
The Michigan schedule has only 2 opponents outside the “Power Five” and is far better than ours; in addition to losing to ASU the last time they played them, the Wolverines also lost (at home) to the Utes in their last encounter. I was there for both.
Most all “Power Five” schools will host smaller schools at one time or another, but few seem to make every season a cupcake feast like we do.
Thanks again, Wolfpack administrators!
Incidentially, those ASU folks who were responsible for this year’s trip to Ann Arbor (and ASU’s exit from the SOCON) look like the kind of folks NCSU would love to have in their ivory tower.
After some thought, it occurred to me that in 2015, when all the “Power Five” teams HAVE to schedule one of their own OOC each season, it’ll put teams like State and Wake Forest at a disadvantage. I bet that NONE of the really good teams from the other 4 conferences will give much consideration to bringing in the Pack or Deacs, let alone visiting there, because they’ll be looking at dozens of better options than us. When we play an SEC team, it’ll be Vandy or Kentucky. When it’s the B1G, look for Purdue or Indiana. When it’s the Pac-12, it’ll most likely be Colorado or California. When it’s the Big XII, expect Kansas or Iowa State.
The more things change, the more they’ll remain the same.
With the ACC’s decision to stick to only 8 conference games each season, a third of our schedule remains OOC, and it’s highly unlikely the Wolfpack’s OOC schedule will make any, let alone any significant, improvement in the near future.
Our “Power Five” games probably won’t make much of an impact, either. We’ll likely end up playing the bottom feeders from the other 4 big conferences, mainly Kentucky, Vanderbilt or Mississippi from the SEC; KU, ISU or TTU from the Big XII; Purdue, Northwestern or Indiana from the B1G; and Washington State, Cal or Colorado from the Pac-12. These teams would be an improvement in our OOC schedule, yes, but who we really need on our schedule are teams like Alabama, Florida, LSU, Michigan, Michigan State, Wisconsin, Ohio State, Texas, Oklahoma, Oregon, USC or Stanford. We probably wouldn’t beat any of these teams, but we certainly won’t ever beat them if we never get to play them. I’d trade all 3 of our OOC home games this season for just ONE road game with any of the above (better yet two), but as long as NCSU administrators strive for bowl eligibility, the mediocrity to win 6 will continue.
I like Dave Doeren and think he has potential, but Wolfpack football has reached the point that it needs a quick shot to build it up quickly, not another rebuilding project. Nothing short of another Lou Holtz will get this program up and running in a short time period. Personally, I’d like to see someone like Mike Leach or Steve Logan take over here, but with the present administration we have in charge, it’s not going to happen anytime soon, if ever.
Wait ’til next season.
