Let the Hate Flow – U*NC Open Thread

I spent all day yesterday, and part of the day before, cooking.  Then my extended family invaded the house, ate all my food, and left the house a complete and total shambles.  But before they all left, one of my nephews, who was brought to MY house wearing a Carolina shirt, was pulled aside and talked to.

Before he left, I traded him….he went home wearing an NC State shirt.  His Carolina shirt is now in the garbage can in the garage and will be disposed of at the dump before kickoff today.  Yes, I’m serious.

Last night, after getting the house and kitchen at least back to a semblance of normalcy, I reflected on today’s game.  More on that later….but first, let’s hate for a bit.


I hate The University* of North Carolina with a passion.  And when I say “hate”….I MEAN hate.  I hate everything about them.  I hate their arrogance.  I hate their cheating ways.  I hate their plausible deniability….oh no NCAA, it was academic.  Oh no SACS, it was athletic.  I hate that when one tries to point these things out, the knee jerk response is either “You’re just jealous” or “You’re not our rivals anyway” or “That’s in the past, we’ve fixed those problems”.

Yeah, sure you have.  Suuuuurrrre you have.

And even if that fairy tale WAS true (it’s not, btw), you still haven’t paid your pound of flesh yet.  And you’re fighting like crazy to deny, deflect and delay, just because you’re a bunch of p-ssies who wouldn’t know how to live up to your responsibilities if you tripped over them.

We did, we owned up….and for much, much less severe transgressions.  We were honest to a fault.  Dismantled an athletic program more or less, and killed a National Championship basketball coach in the process….but we did it.  Collectively threw ourselves on the proverbial sword.  And now, these sh-theels, who collectively were more than happy to run us thru with said sword years ago, are gonna sit here and lie about their own culpability in the BIGGEST ATHLETIC/ACADEMIC SCANDAL IN THE HISTORY OF COLLEGE ATHLETICS….and still find a way to try to come across as holier than thou.


In ’89 we should have told them to all go and eat the whole bag.  They can all rot in hell for all I care.

Also….Dean Smith was a dickhead no matter what those baby blue f-cktards try to tell you.

I was in Walmart (yes, the setting drips with irony, friends) a few days ago, wearing an NCSU shirt of course.  I had two people come up to me, neither of whom appeared to have graduated HS successfully, let alone attended U*NC.  But these two genetic misfits still came up to me and started talking sh-t about this game (and basketball in general also).  I listened.  Patiently.

When they were done I asked two questions….

Did either of you attend U*NC?  Well, no…but….

“AH AH, SHUT UP”, I says.

Are you really so proud of an athletic program and university which lies, cheats and steals, just to make money….so much so that you are proud of coming up to me here and talking sh-t about a school you couldn’t even get admitted into IF you tried?  No answer.

“Yeah, that’s what I thought….have a nice Thanksgiving,” as I walked away.

Bottom line, there’s not enough napalm on the planet to raze Chapel Hill to the ground.  But oh, if only there was.  And these toothless, dickless, hapless assheads who shop for their Tar Heel gear at Walmart (yes, it’s really a real phenomenon) should be buried up to their necks and have rocks and other projectiles tossed at their heads.  But at least Sam Walton’s progeny are getting rich off them.


So, today’s game.  The likelihood is that it won’t end well for us Wolven sort.  We’re an 11 point road dog.


Carolina has the worst run defense in the conference.  We’ve got Matt Dayes and Co.  So matchups might end up shining for us if other things can work out.  What are the other things?  Our secondary.  Up front defensively, I think we’ll probably hold our own.  TJ logan could punish us to a degree.  But if we let them open things up in the passing game, it will only open things up for Logan that much more.  So our secondary has got to stay home and keep their collective sh-t together.

I don’t expect us to win, but I do think we’ve got a puncher’s chance.

There’s a bowl game on the line for us.  There’s the slim hope of a Coastal title for them.  My biggest wish is that they’ve already had the rings made and shirts printed (not like it would be the first time, right?) and we’d waltz in and put another 41-10 drubbing on them in front of their self-righteous fanbase.  I WANT BABY BLUE TEARS!!!!!!!!

F-ck ’em all.

UNC, NC State renew rivalry with eyes on even bigger goals (USAToday.com)

“I’d say it’s a great rivalry,” UNC coach Larry Fedora said. “It’s unique because your fans interact year round — they’re always around each other. They work together. I’m sure that some of them are friends.”

Probably not on gameday, though.

Tar Heels cornerback Des Lawrence says there’s “a bit more chirping between” his team and the Wolfpack, and there’s “extra talk. That amps things up.”

So do the stakes.

The Tar Heels (8-3, 5-2 Atlantic Coast Conference) enter the final week of the regular season still in the hunt for a Coastal Division title and a repeat berth in the ACC championship game, but they need to beat N.C. State and get some help from Virginia, which faces Virginia Tech the following day.

The situation is a bit more dire for the Wolfpack (5-6, 2-5), whose season was marked by close losses to a pair of highly ranked teams — Clemson and Florida State — and also befuddling losses to East Carolina and Boston College, two teams with a combined record of 8-14. A win over North Carolina will make them bowl eligible, while a loss will keep them home for the second time in coach Dave Doeren’s four seasons.

UNC vs. NC State Prediction, Game Preview (CampusInsiders.com)

What To Know About UNC

One week after the Tar Heels suffered a tough road loss to Duke, which really hurt UNC’s ACC Coastal division cause, Larry Fedora’s squad shut down one of the best offenses in all of FCS. The Tar Heels offense didn’t have its “A” game, but it didn’t have to against the Bulldogs. UNC converted just one third down and was out-gained in yardage 371-356, but the Heels did actually have an interception. Dominique Green picked off a pass and returned it 58 yards for a touchdown, which was the first interception of the year for UNC. It had been the only FBS team to not intercept a pass this season.

What to Know About NC State

One week after the Wolfpack went on the road and held Syracuse to 218 total yards in a 35-20 win, Dave Doeren’s squad received 76 yards and a score on the ground from Matt Dayes, who became NC State’s first 1,000-yard rusher since 2002. But mistakes doomed the Wolfpack, including an end-zone interception by quarterback Ryan Finley, a penalty that took back a fourth-quarter scoring run by Dayes and Bra’Lon Cherry’s second-half fumble on a punt return. The game was seemingly a microcosm of the Wolfpack’s entire season. To get to the postseason for a third straight year, NC State must be able to capitalize on its golden opportunities when they are presented. Do Doeren and Co. have a clean game left in them for the regular season finale?

 Scouting reports: NC State at North Carolina (NewsObserver.com)

Key theme: N.C. State’s defense forced a total of seven turnovers in back-to-back games against Notre Dame and Clemson. That’s the same number it has forced in the five games since the 24-17 overtime loss at Clemson on Oct. 15. The defense has to make more plays, especially against UNC’s prolific offense. The Wolfpack can’t afford to just trade punches with UNC’s offense. It won’t be able to keep up.

N.C. State also needs to keep tabs on UNC running back T.J. Logan, who has three touchdowns in as many career games against the Wolfpack. Logan ran for 100 yards, on just six carries, with two touchdowns in last year’s 45-34 win in Raleigh.


Pack Travels to UNC for Friday Rivalry Game (GoPack.com)

 Two years ago at Kenan Stadium, the Wolfpack churned out 388 rushing yards in a lopsided 35-7 victory over the Tar Heels. Stung by that result, UNC returned the favor last season in Raleigh, putting 35 points on the board in the opening quarter and never looking back in a 45-34 triumph.

“We played really well two years ago and played really bad last year,” said Wolfpack head coach Dave Doeren. “They played really well last year and I’m sure they’d say they played really bad two years ago. It’s an emotional game and obviously you want to sustain the highs and lows early and make it a four quarter football game if that’s what it calls for.”

The ability to manage emotions becomes a tricky task in rivalry games, thus creating a certain level of unpredictability that often leads to unforeseen outcomes. The desire to obtain bragging rights and do so for passionate followers who relish owning the upper hand in the annual ‘water cooler debates’ can occasionally cause players to actually try to do too much over the course of a game, leading to execution mistakes prompted by overwhelming, sometimes unchecked emotion.

In its impressive victory in Chapel Hill two years ago, NC State used its emotion productively, funneling the excess energy into a dominant performance at the line of scrimmage.

Time: High Noon


Author’s warning….this first YouTube clip is totally NSFW or for your children….

This second one is family friendly, however….

Go Pack!!!!!

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    I spent all day yesterday, and part of the day before, cooking.  Then my extended family invaded the house, ate all my food, and left the house a comp
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    “Fedora’s squad shut down one of the best offenses in all of FCS. The Tar Heels offense didn’t have its “A” game, but it didn’t have to against the Bulldogs.” USA Today brags on *NC for its work against the Citadel. Really?


    Hopefully we start out on the right track, and put them away early. If so, you can expect most of the holes fans to head to the exits. like they always do when they are getting beat at home. And we can enjoy a sea of red.


    There was a headline about today’s game being the “Drama Queen” game in NC. Probably so. CD and others will comment about the “mindset” of going to the Pines to play. I think what is overshadowing, again to me, the game is the DRAMA.

    > Coach Doeren, and I liked and still do – from the start, did not exactly deliver the Charley Young Rah Rah speech this week.

    > The LSU job “appears” to have gone to Tom Herman. Trace Armstrong, his agent, will get some BIG $$’s

    > Jimbo, without donning a mask, has held up the FSI piggy bank. Jimmy Sexton (of BD Fame) will get some big $$’s

    > Coaching Carousel has started to spin a little faster. Fat Cat Donors planes are being rerouted in mid air.

    > Fedora’s entry or “seat” in the Carousel will depend a LOT on the outcome of the Pines Brawl.

    NOW, one DOES wonder….how much, in our free flowing and also unbiased and accurate Internet stories, the IMPACT on the players. I should be at my ancient age of 71, be mature enough NOT to let emotions get into my head and focus on the “task at hand”. It don’t work that way. I wonder about the mindset of BOTH teams.

    In the RED, which is where our loyalties lie, ARE they mentally prepared? Did the coaches have FULL concentration or were they busy spiffing up their houses for the market? Has the “TEAM” been caught up in the hype of the week or were they able to mindlessly play video games and listen to their tunes and shove it all out? They PROBABLY have some inkling that a GOOD (Stellar would be an understatement) performance today and a W MIGHT save Coach Doeren. There are so many “I know a guy who details the car of the Mega Fat Cat NCSU Donor…..” reports that I really don’t know WHAT to expect….and actually, I should not.

    From a pragmatic standpoint, AD Yow had an easy task in “Voting TOB off the island”. Really a no brainer. Sidney Lowe was probably a lot harder. She said that publicly as well as privately (comments in her emails). Sid’s deep roots to NCSU were obviously a factor….but in the end, the W&L record….despite the great incoming recruiting classes…did him in.

    Now, she faces a tougher task…. Does she cast out her own specially chosen coach or give him another year to “shape up”. Some have contacts in high places….some have contacts that are ex-players and attend FB practices… some have sources that don’t deal in rumor and have stated that even with a W, the season is far below the “expectation” or goal that was set (and agreed to by not only AD Yow but Dr. Woodson as well). Don’t know.

    The SAME comments could be made about the UNC players. If they beat their rivals….and obviously they want it to be BAD and Embarrassing, then they IMPROVE the resume of Coach Fedora and he will stand a better of chance of leaving. Patrick Strong will get some big BUCKS….and actually Double Down as he is also Gene Chizik’s Agent…and GC would be the top dog for the UNC job…or at least that is what all the impeccable board monkey bloggers are saying. MOST UNC folks think that Fedora will be wearing a DIFFERENT hat next spring at practice….not of the Light Blue variety.

    As my old HS FB coach (same lecture….he was NOT a Valvano type of motivator) said….”The first play is the key…if we’re on offense, our line had better knock the @#$#%% out of (fill in the blank) line. We will have a LOT of fun then and they will be shell shocked. THEN, when we are on defense….same thing. BUT, the defensive tone will have already been set by the first play….go out there and kick their @#$# @#$@#$ #$%#$% A$$’s.” That worked in the 60’s, but we were not the coddled quasi snowflake and enlightened and overly hyped player of today wearing $500 Designer headphones.

    I agree with Mak, we have to focus on the FIRST play, regardless of which side of the ball we are on. If we come out HOT…we will stay hot. If not, then we are gonna be like David (of biblical fame) against Goliath….except Homeland Security confiscated our sling and pebble due to security concerns…

    I really make NO prediction….The Vegas sites have us a 10 point underdog….but folks have lost $$’s before by following the odd’s..

    Will be in my RED game outfit….and watching….


    I think we should be able to tell what the players think about our situation.

    Can they imagine playing football for another guy? Will they fight to end for DD? I know these guys will fight for each other, but those critical first possessions.


    This one’s gonna be sad, fellers. Watch your corn holes.


    OH NO not mack Brown, horrors! I am going to have to either break my hard and fast rule or watch the whole game on mute. It ought to be against the law

    gso packbacker

    Could be a good one, but I have managed my expectations. Like Chop, the team will tell us what we need to know (perhaps not what we WANT to know). I am watching this somewhere that serves alcohol though.


    My gut tells me that DD will be back regardless. Too much money and no chance of getting a real known quantity as coach my


    Mute button engaged. Beyond the level of usual ESPN homerism bullshit. I about had a stroke, even before kickoff.


    Wow. Lot’s of aluminum visible. Guess the heel fans are out shopping today.


    I should just play this on constant loop throughout:


    Well it’s not their rival


    I also hate argyle.


    and we aren’t picking up their attendance slack for a change


    Now that’s what I’m talking about.
    Slit wrists at least delayed.






    One forgets how easy it is to trick the really, really stupid.


    It’s still WAAY early obviously, but if this apathetic bast4rd pulls out all the stops and somehow beats the Cheaters in Chapel Hill to make a bowl and eliminate them from playing in the Championship game I’m fine with him back next year.

    But it’s still waaaay early.


    This is way too good!! Keep it up!!


    30 minutes between TD and kick off?


    I am not ok with him back, but I don’t think it matters either way so FUCK YEAH let’s fuck up the Holes season while we’re at it and qualify for the Buddy Cole Buttplug Bowl in Toronto, too!




    Technical difficulties. ESPN wtf???


    Funny how the “technical difficulties” happened just after the Pack scored.

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