Let the Hate Flow – U*NC Open Thread

I spent all day yesterday, and part of the day before, cooking.  Then my extended family invaded the house, ate all my food, and left the house a complete and total shambles.  But before they all left, one of my nephews, who was brought to MY house wearing a Carolina shirt, was pulled aside and talked to.

Before he left, I traded him….he went home wearing an NC State shirt.  His Carolina shirt is now in the garbage can in the garage and will be disposed of at the dump before kickoff today.  Yes, I’m serious.

Last night, after getting the house and kitchen at least back to a semblance of normalcy, I reflected on today’s game.  More on that later….but first, let’s hate for a bit.


I hate The University* of North Carolina with a passion.  And when I say “hate”….I MEAN hate.  I hate everything about them.  I hate their arrogance.  I hate their cheating ways.  I hate their plausible deniability….oh no NCAA, it was academic.  Oh no SACS, it was athletic.  I hate that when one tries to point these things out, the knee jerk response is either “You’re just jealous” or “You’re not our rivals anyway” or “That’s in the past, we’ve fixed those problems”.

Yeah, sure you have.  Suuuuurrrre you have.

And even if that fairy tale WAS true (it’s not, btw), you still haven’t paid your pound of flesh yet.  And you’re fighting like crazy to deny, deflect and delay, just because you’re a bunch of p-ssies who wouldn’t know how to live up to your responsibilities if you tripped over them.

We did, we owned up….and for much, much less severe transgressions.  We were honest to a fault.  Dismantled an athletic program more or less, and killed a National Championship basketball coach in the process….but we did it.  Collectively threw ourselves on the proverbial sword.  And now, these sh-theels, who collectively were more than happy to run us thru with said sword years ago, are gonna sit here and lie about their own culpability in the BIGGEST ATHLETIC/ACADEMIC SCANDAL IN THE HISTORY OF COLLEGE ATHLETICS….and still find a way to try to come across as holier than thou.


In ’89 we should have told them to all go and eat the whole bag.  They can all rot in hell for all I care.

Also….Dean Smith was a dickhead no matter what those baby blue f-cktards try to tell you.

I was in Walmart (yes, the setting drips with irony, friends) a few days ago, wearing an NCSU shirt of course.  I had two people come up to me, neither of whom appeared to have graduated HS successfully, let alone attended U*NC.  But these two genetic misfits still came up to me and started talking sh-t about this game (and basketball in general also).  I listened.  Patiently.

When they were done I asked two questions….

Did either of you attend U*NC?  Well, no…but….

“AH AH, SHUT UP”, I says.

Are you really so proud of an athletic program and university which lies, cheats and steals, just to make money….so much so that you are proud of coming up to me here and talking sh-t about a school you couldn’t even get admitted into IF you tried?  No answer.

“Yeah, that’s what I thought….have a nice Thanksgiving,” as I walked away.

Bottom line, there’s not enough napalm on the planet to raze Chapel Hill to the ground.  But oh, if only there was.  And these toothless, dickless, hapless assheads who shop for their Tar Heel gear at Walmart (yes, it’s really a real phenomenon) should be buried up to their necks and have rocks and other projectiles tossed at their heads.  But at least Sam Walton’s progeny are getting rich off them.


So, today’s game.  The likelihood is that it won’t end well for us Wolven sort.  We’re an 11 point road dog.


Carolina has the worst run defense in the conference.  We’ve got Matt Dayes and Co.  So matchups might end up shining for us if other things can work out.  What are the other things?  Our secondary.  Up front defensively, I think we’ll probably hold our own.  TJ logan could punish us to a degree.  But if we let them open things up in the passing game, it will only open things up for Logan that much more.  So our secondary has got to stay home and keep their collective sh-t together.

I don’t expect us to win, but I do think we’ve got a puncher’s chance.

There’s a bowl game on the line for us.  There’s the slim hope of a Coastal title for them.  My biggest wish is that they’ve already had the rings made and shirts printed (not like it would be the first time, right?) and we’d waltz in and put another 41-10 drubbing on them in front of their self-righteous fanbase.  I WANT BABY BLUE TEARS!!!!!!!!

F-ck ’em all.

UNC, NC State renew rivalry with eyes on even bigger goals (USAToday.com)

“I’d say it’s a great rivalry,” UNC coach Larry Fedora said. “It’s unique because your fans interact year round — they’re always around each other. They work together. I’m sure that some of them are friends.”

Probably not on gameday, though.

Tar Heels cornerback Des Lawrence says there’s “a bit more chirping between” his team and the Wolfpack, and there’s “extra talk. That amps things up.”

So do the stakes.

The Tar Heels (8-3, 5-2 Atlantic Coast Conference) enter the final week of the regular season still in the hunt for a Coastal Division title and a repeat berth in the ACC championship game, but they need to beat N.C. State and get some help from Virginia, which faces Virginia Tech the following day.

The situation is a bit more dire for the Wolfpack (5-6, 2-5), whose season was marked by close losses to a pair of highly ranked teams — Clemson and Florida State — and also befuddling losses to East Carolina and Boston College, two teams with a combined record of 8-14. A win over North Carolina will make them bowl eligible, while a loss will keep them home for the second time in coach Dave Doeren’s four seasons.

UNC vs. NC State Prediction, Game Preview (CampusInsiders.com)

What To Know About UNC

One week after the Tar Heels suffered a tough road loss to Duke, which really hurt UNC’s ACC Coastal division cause, Larry Fedora’s squad shut down one of the best offenses in all of FCS. The Tar Heels offense didn’t have its “A” game, but it didn’t have to against the Bulldogs. UNC converted just one third down and was out-gained in yardage 371-356, but the Heels did actually have an interception. Dominique Green picked off a pass and returned it 58 yards for a touchdown, which was the first interception of the year for UNC. It had been the only FBS team to not intercept a pass this season.

What to Know About NC State

One week after the Wolfpack went on the road and held Syracuse to 218 total yards in a 35-20 win, Dave Doeren’s squad received 76 yards and a score on the ground from Matt Dayes, who became NC State’s first 1,000-yard rusher since 2002. But mistakes doomed the Wolfpack, including an end-zone interception by quarterback Ryan Finley, a penalty that took back a fourth-quarter scoring run by Dayes and Bra’Lon Cherry’s second-half fumble on a punt return. The game was seemingly a microcosm of the Wolfpack’s entire season. To get to the postseason for a third straight year, NC State must be able to capitalize on its golden opportunities when they are presented. Do Doeren and Co. have a clean game left in them for the regular season finale?

 Scouting reports: NC State at North Carolina (NewsObserver.com)

Key theme: N.C. State’s defense forced a total of seven turnovers in back-to-back games against Notre Dame and Clemson. That’s the same number it has forced in the five games since the 24-17 overtime loss at Clemson on Oct. 15. The defense has to make more plays, especially against UNC’s prolific offense. The Wolfpack can’t afford to just trade punches with UNC’s offense. It won’t be able to keep up.

N.C. State also needs to keep tabs on UNC running back T.J. Logan, who has three touchdowns in as many career games against the Wolfpack. Logan ran for 100 yards, on just six carries, with two touchdowns in last year’s 45-34 win in Raleigh.


Pack Travels to UNC for Friday Rivalry Game (GoPack.com)

 Two years ago at Kenan Stadium, the Wolfpack churned out 388 rushing yards in a lopsided 35-7 victory over the Tar Heels. Stung by that result, UNC returned the favor last season in Raleigh, putting 35 points on the board in the opening quarter and never looking back in a 45-34 triumph.

“We played really well two years ago and played really bad last year,” said Wolfpack head coach Dave Doeren. “They played really well last year and I’m sure they’d say they played really bad two years ago. It’s an emotional game and obviously you want to sustain the highs and lows early and make it a four quarter football game if that’s what it calls for.”

The ability to manage emotions becomes a tricky task in rivalry games, thus creating a certain level of unpredictability that often leads to unforeseen outcomes. The desire to obtain bragging rights and do so for passionate followers who relish owning the upper hand in the annual ‘water cooler debates’ can occasionally cause players to actually try to do too much over the course of a game, leading to execution mistakes prompted by overwhelming, sometimes unchecked emotion.

In its impressive victory in Chapel Hill two years ago, NC State used its emotion productively, funneling the excess energy into a dominant performance at the line of scrimmage.

Time: High Noon


Author’s warning….this first YouTube clip is totally NSFW or for your children….

This second one is family friendly, however….

Go Pack!!!!!

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    They say We are not their rival why does it means so much in victory -why does it hurt so much after a loss-when UNC defeats NCSU the bragging is endless and when they lose -no where to be found-they will not admit they look to NC State as their in Football superior ,to beat us is self approval for heel fans-we are NC State


    Was at the tarhole FB game, seated in Sec. 101 in a sea of State Red-fairly near the Blew Zone, which began to empty out when we turned them over on downs with about 3 minutes left. Several blue-clad idiots (redundant?) began to yell at our section, one even coming to the front row making BB jumpshot motions-my witty colleague started a chorus of ‘jump,jump…’.
    Bonehead went on for a good five minutes until game’s end…naw, we’re not their rivals…


    bumping to the top one last time to say hell yeah fock you UNC!!! Soft ass pretenders.

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