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No we aren’t. I will supply my routing number so we can purge you of this evil!
lol send it to b.o.t.b. read the post above the one you quoted for me. He is the one who believes in bad money. : )
I have been purged enough already. Among other things Six children four through college one still in and one to go.
I don’t think money is bad.
Dude! Its a GREAT thing if you earned it (and its in my Waddell & Reed dashboard, or if you got it the ole fashioned way, inherited it maybe, a little).. But being given it from unscrupulous people who do not have your best interest at heart and want to use it to control you is a bad thing! I’m thinking mob, loan sharking etc.
The point of a ‘loan’ is to control people and the DSJr was a ‘loan’. A loan does not necessarily violate any laws as far as income and tax evasion (from the recipients side).
Just saying.
I don’t think money is bad. It is what the money does to some people that can be the problem. Breaking rules etc …
I think we are in agreement or am I missing something?
… This is the most visible symbol of the UGA Athletic Association, a not-for-profit organization that in fiscal 2011 recorded operating revenues just shy of $90 million. That money enables the association to send its golf teams to Puerto Rico, track teams to Washington State, and Gym Dogs to Utah. Here and there, the Athletic Association also endows professorships and funds a few campus-wide projects.
As munificent as this is, this kind of spending is typical of big-time college athletics programs at universities across the country. The Chronicle of Higher Education recently estimated that college athletics is a $10-billion marketplace. What sets UGA athletics apart is that it can pay for its expenses without turning to the university for help.
Only seven other athletics programs at public universities broke even or had net operating income on athletics each year from 2005-2009, according to data provided by USA Today to the Knight Commission on Intercollegiate Athletics (for which I consult) …
For almost every other university, sports is a money-losing proposition. Only big-time college football has a chance of generating enough net revenue to cover not only its own costs but those of “Olympic” sports like field hockey, gymnastics, and swimming. Not even men’s basketball at places like Duke University or the University of Kansas can generate enough revenue to make programs profitable.
As a result, most colleges and universities rely on what the NCAA calls “allocated revenue.” This includes direct and indirect support from general funds, student fees, and government appropriations. In other words, most colleges subsidize their athletics programs, sometimes to startling degrees. …
In other Division I conferences, public institutions subsidized athletics programs with $9.6 million on average in 2009. In the Mid-American Conference, for example, average institutional subsidies rose from $12 million to $16 million between 2005 and 2009. Direct institutional support nearly doubled, from an average of $4 million to $7 million annually, while student fees contributed an average of approximately $7 million. …
Of course, athletics programs foster other, less-clearly defined but important benefits for their institutions. …http://www.acenet.edu/news-room/Pages/Myth-College-Sports-Are-a-Cash-Cow2.aspx
The other 25% may being able to switch to a zone defense, just kidding ; ) I will look forward to seeing the product next year and still get to enjoy this year. What a fun ride so far.
I don’t think money is bad. It is what the money does to some people that can be the problem. Breaking rules etc …
I think we have seen what money has done to those student athletes who play in revenue sports already. Separate dorms, separate dining facilities, and as unx has shown separate classes. I think the trend will probably continue in the same direction.
Please don’t misunderstand me I don’t think this makes the revenue student athletes bad but it does tend to separate them from the student body per se. imo.
Thinking about not being able to unring a bell and all of the money involved with “amateur” sports it seems there are two ways you could go.
1. Pay the athletes and go ahead and sanction the semi-pro team status that exists.
2. Ban all of the play between different schools and have intramural sports programs only.I don’t think people will go for option 2. I wish it where different but it seems that day is past and I only view that past day through nostalgia based on ignorance which Cowdog has pointed out.
Don’t look now, and I hate to even mention it because of the “jinx” ramifications…but if we win out, and Duke beats UNC, we also have the tie-breaker on UNC…ie, we finish third as far as ACC Tourney seedings are concerned.
Who saw THAT possibility coming?
Depends on the time frame but if you meant at the beginning of the year then I would venture not many or maybe better any.
NCAA Mission Statement
Mission Statement of NCAA*
Core Ideology:
The NCAA’s core ideology consists of two notions: core purpose – the organization’s reason for being – and core values – essential and enduring principles that guide an organization.
Core Purpose:
Our purpose is to govern competition in a fair, safe, equitable and sportsmanlike manner, and to integrate intercollegiate athletics into higher education so that the educational experience of the student-athlete is paramount.
Core Values:
The Association – through its member institutions, conferences and national office staff – shares a belief in and commitment to:
· The collegiate model of athletics in which students participate as an avocation, balancing their academic, social and athletics experiences.
· The highest levels of integrity and sportsmanship.
· The pursuit of excellence in both academics and athletics.
· The supporting role that intercollegiate athletics plays in the higher education mission and in enhancing the sense of community and strengthening the identity of member institutions.
· An inclusive culture that fosters equitable participation for student-athletes and career opportunities for coaches and administrators from diverse backgrounds.
· Respect for institutional autonomy and philosophical differences.
· Presidential leadership of intercollegiate athletics at the campus, conference and national levels.http://www.citadel.edu/root/ncaa_mission
Since they have abrogated half of their core purpose mission statement and maybe half of their core goals in deference to unx in their scandal it would make sense in this scandal to do the same with the rest of them. They can just highlight ” Respect for institutional autonomy and philosophical differences.” and ” Presidential leadership of intercollegiate athletics at the campus, conference and national levels.” come clean and just say do want you want besides everyone is doing it so it is a level playing field just keep sending us your money.
Here is a link with the actual letter.
Thanks AD Yow.
How ’bout that AD of ours? A letter of disassociation to the moneyman way back in 2012. Sharp.
I agree looks like a very proactive thing to do.
North Carolina State athletic director Debbie Yow says the school in 2012 disassociated itself from a former NBA agent at the center of a federal probe into college basketball corruption. … N.C. State had sent Miller and his businesses a 10-year disassociation letter, citing NCAA reports that indicate the agent worked closely with an AAU coach and saying that “creates a vulnerability” for the school “that we cannot tolerate.”
Read more here: http://www.tri-cityherald.com/sports/article201756954.html#storylink=cpy
Just call it Fake News and say the FBI is a conspiracy. Seems to work for Donald.
Since basketball is the problem lets just ban basketball from being played by anyone in the USA seems to work for some.
Or lets just have the FBI clear some people who are connected and try to crucify other people who are not kind of like the NCAA does with certain programs seems to work for unx.
Or … I wonder how many more we can come up with. lol this could be fun. : )
Rye it very well may be that we are neck deep in stuff. I would rather it be the scenario that he took the money in high school and we are not involved.
Not the kind of dreaming (nightmare) I like. I think I will wait and see the evidence before throwing our program, coaches, and administration under the bus.
http://www.unf.edu/~jcoleman/dance.htm
Rank — Team – Dance Card – Chance of Bid – RPI
41 — North Carolina St. – 4.6176 – 100.00% – 52
Dance card updated for games through Monday. Pack at 41. They show a drop in Rpi too figured the old way.
