The last 24 hours haven’t been stellar for Mark Gottfried

You’ll note that SFN didn’t make a big deal about Brandon Ingram‘s recruitment during the last couple of years….and, well, we’re pretty happy that we didn’t.

Today’s topic of interest does NOT revolve around the Wolfpack losing Brandon Ingram to Duke, it involves potentially losing a brand new commitment to another school who wears blue.

As Scout.com is reporting here,

Shaun Kirk committed to North Carolina State on Monday.

But by Monday evening, John Calipari and Kentucky offered Kirk, a 6-foot-6 combo forward, a scholarship and that changed things, according to a source.

“He intends to explore that option,” the source told Scout.

Kirk, who is eligible to go to college this coming season, didn’t sign any paperwork after he committed to N.C. State.

A standout at Whiteville (N.C.) High, Kirk played this spring with Team Loaded. He’s impressed coaches with his elite athleticism and energy. Kirk is regarded as a three-star prospect on Scout.

Since Scout posted their article, this was filed from a Kentucky newspaper:

Shaun Kirk was on N.C. State’s campus Monday afternoon and couldn’t help himself. After a big showing in an AAU event in Indianapolis over the weekend, the 6-foot-7 small forward from Whiteville, N.C., had just gotten his highest-profile scholarship offer from the Wolfpack and he accepted it on the spot. I’m coming, he told them.

“But then here comes something bigger and better,” Whiteville High School coach Jerry Singleton said. “The timing couldn’t be worse, really. I wish he would’ve just thought a little bit more before he said that, and then it would be a lot easier for him today. Now he’s really torn.”

That’s because by the time Kirk go home Monday night, University of Kentucky coach John Calipari was calling to extend a scholarship offer. The Wildcats, who watched Kirk put on a show in Indianapolis, need a small forward in this recruiting class and the late interest might reflect their confidence (or lack thereof) in landing five-star prospect Jaylen Brown.

Kirk, a three-star recruit, is not a typical UK target. But this is an unusual class for the Cats after seven players declared for the NBA draft, and Kirk’s stock is on the rise after several strong performances on the AAU circuit. Singleton said West Virginia, Missouri, Marquette, Ole Miss, VCU and Rutgers have all shown interest recently. But Kentucky stands out.

“You say the grass ain’t always greener on the other side, but could it be?” Singletary said. “I think he’s very interested in what Kentucky has going on out there. He’s just overwhelmed a little bit, because when you talk to a person like Calipari on the phone, he was like, ‘Wow, Coach, I didn’t know this could happen.’ I love N.C. State, but when you go home and – from a business aspect – Kentucky calls you, I know what I would do.”

He said Kirk won’t take the decision lightly, though, and appreciates the value of sticking to his word. Singletary wants to speak directly to Calipari and hear how the Cats want to use him. Whether he changes his commitment or not, the coach is just happy his star is finally getting the attention he believes he’s deserved all along.

“Shaun’s not been on the radar like he should have been. But I guess good things come to those who wait,” the coach said. If he goes to UK, “they’re going to get a kid that can shoot it from the outside and is just an uncanny athlete. He can get up and get it, and he can finish it. He’s 6-7 ½ and he’s still growing. He’s a player that can come in and make a difference.

“He’s not all the way polished yet – I’ll be the first to say that – but he can play.”

Shaun wants to know how Kentucky is going to ‘use’ him? Really!? I can tell you how they are going to use him to ride the bench and serve as insurance to back up all of the 5 star and 4 star recruits they will bring in today and into the future.

Other than “The Greek”, 7-footer Georgios Papagiannis, I don’t think the coaches want to take anyone else in 2015. If we don’t get Kirk, they may have to alter that plan. Papagiannis is still considering St. Johns, Oregon and some others.

Current 2015-2016 NC State Basketball Program Configuration

Senior Class
—None—-

Junior Class
(1) Anthony Barber (PG)
(2) BeeJay Anya (4F/5C)
(3) Lennard Freeman (4F)
(4) Terry Henderson (Wing)

Sophomore Class
(5) Caleb Martin (wing)
(6) Cody Martin (wing)
(7) Abdul Malik Abu (PF)

Freshman Class (2015 Commits)
(8) Shaun Kirk (F) – weak verbal
(9)
(10
(11)
(12)
(13)

2016 Commits
—None—-

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  • #85815
    TheCOWDOG
    Moderator

    Yes Ed. I actually wrote something a little harsher in regards to the headline.

    I did not hit submit in hope that it means the “24 hrs. have not been stellar TO Gottfried.

    #85816
    freshmanin83
    Participant

    Is the sky falling … again?

    #85817
    Ed89
    Participant

    Agreed, CD. When I read the headline, I was expecting something “worse” than getting a commitment from a guy Kentucky wants…

    #85818
    MrPlywood
    Participant

    Who came up with this post title? And how is it even remotely accurate?

    +2

    #85819
    Gowolves
    Participant

    ED89, CD, I was about to post the same thing two hours ago but got sidetracked. Insert Wolfpack instead of MG. The headline pisses me off. Just so sick and tired of some of the fans on here. They know who they are and just miserable people in general. Gott is doing all he can to find the right kids for the program. Dang right I want a championship team and I dare anyone to tell they want it more than I do! This negative attitude is for the fing birds. I hope we can sign this kid and it may parlay into the 2016 class but it will not be the end of the world if we don’t.

    #85821
    StateRed44
    Participant

    Kids coach sounds like a sumbeach. Whatever. We really need scoring and a PG.

    #85822
    StateFans
    Keymaster

    Sheesh, Ed. You can’t find something better to talk about than a relatively benign headline?

    So, since the headline isn’t correct, I can only assume that your position is that losing Ingram and now dealing with this situation with Kirk IS STELLAR?

    If not, then all you are looking to do is nitpick and argue about nothing.

    #85823
    ancsu87
    Participant

    I consider myself a glass is “half empty” guy except when reading posts about NC State BB and Gott here at SFN. I think the point was the world is not falling as the headline would imply. He offered a 3-star kid on the rise that just so happened to get an offer from UK after he made a verbal committ. All you have heard from is his coach which may or may not have any influence on his decision. Plus the fact this kid is exactly the kind of player we have had success with over the years whereas our 5 star success (not so much). That spans several coaches with varying degree of overall success.

    Regarding Ingram, by your own admission you did not think we would get him so how does this became a negative. Got was not holding back recruiting others just for him but rather if he got him great but if not he has his core and is looking for right fit into that core.

    The only negative I can see is that the coaching staff for whatever reason did not think upon Lacey age and that he might dash after 1 year. Then again I am not sure anybody even Lacey himself expected to have the season he did.

    #85825
    OutWestWolf
    Participant

    The day/s that Kintucky had 7 and Duke had 3 declare for the draft, not even a small part of Ingram was ours. Can’t say I see where him choosing Duke in the last 24 hours is all that big a deal for the Pack. So do kind of understand the headline as an irritant.

    And, good on Ingram for choosing K instead of that pandering jackal in an expensive suit. I didn’t like Calamari well prior to his cozying-up to and fueling big-blue nation’s bloated sense of whatever.

    In a perfect world Mark Cuban would hire Cal to goto Dallas (they deserve one another) and the honorable Herb would make his long time homecoming to UK.

    #85826
    Gowolves
    Participant

    Statefans, why don’t look and see that most people are not happy with your headline. Don’t cherry pick. Explain to me why this is only a Gott problem? This has happened to all our coaches. All you do is inflame the Gott haters. Maybe that was your intention?

    #85827
    MickQ
    Participant

    First and foremost, let the kid decide. Gott did a wonderful job of recruiting Mr. Kirk. Shaun is a young man with aspirations and deserves to make his own decision that will benefit he and his family, and to make the folks from his hometown proud. It would be really, really great if he chose the Pack. But KY is a school with a storied,and then some, basketball history that every young star dreams of.

    As for the title of this post, Gott actually did a STELLAR job in recruiting this young man. Getting a verbal from such a fine player is enormous. But let Shaun and his family make up their own minds. I hope he chooses State. I attended there. It is a great school and has a fine basketball tradition. But Shaun is building his own tradition. Give him space.

    Go Pack! Go Shaun! We would love to have you, but this is your decision, not the decision of posters on this site.

    And for Gott, give the guy a break. Put yourselves in his place. Pressure, pressure, pressure. And to come out of the Pack with a guy like Shaun shows he can endure the pressure and make a statement.

    #85828
    WolfWiz11
    Participant

    How can a poor man stand such times and live?

    #85829
    freshmanin83
    Participant

    Are the only choices between, the last 24 hours were stellar or were not stellar for Coach Gottfried? I think there may be other choices without being nit picking. Are nit’s even in season, I will defer to CD on that one.

    Is it possible StateFans you got your hopes up for Ingram (you state Ingram was lost, when was he had?) and were then disappointed and then maybe you had your hopes uplifted by the Kirk report but you now are thinking he is lost too? Coach gets credit and blame, maybe even for dashed hopes.

    #85830
    MickQ
    Participant

    ^

    I agree. When was Ingram had? After a National Championship, the Dookies look like a holiday.

    As for Gott, he should get credit!

    #85831
    mak4dpak
    Participant

    WE are NC State, they are Kentucky. So why wouldn’t he listen, but that doesn’t mean he will recommit to UK. Let’s just wait and see. Gott knows what he is doing, and has proven it every year. Even when we were picked to have a lesser finish. I am not looking for a new coach. Gott is fine, and the team will be fine. It has been every year so far. Why should this one be any different. Not many teams put a defeat on our reigning champs from Durham.

    #85832
    choppack1
    Participant

    Depending on what UK can sign – I can actually see us being better than them next year.

    But with Kentucky – there is a greater likelihood that if you stay for 2 or 3 years, you’ll play in the final 4.

    As I have stated, I think gott has done a solid job recruiting. We are just missing depth for next year.

    #85833
    WTNY
    Participant

    There were plenty of people happy with Kirk’s commitment.

    #85834
    TheCOWDOG
    Moderator

    83 asks if nits are in season.

    Yes, they are annuals.

    Nitwits are, on the otherhand, perennials.

    #85835
    Rick
    Keymaster

    They say women who hang out together have their cycles sync up. That is the only explanation I can come up with for the whining about an innocuous title.

    #85837
    MP
    Participant

    When I read the title I thought we were going to see photos of Gott taking a nap in an airport.

    Or hear that Jamie Dixon was tweeting him advice on NCAAT success.

    #85838
    Fastback68
    Participant

    Looks like we have time for some more pissing contests before Kirk makes a decision. Archie Miller interview or a cupcake thread should suffice.

    #85839
    Heelh8r
    Participant

    Nitwits are, on the otherhand, perennials.

    That means, for the horticulturally challenged, they may go dormant, but they always come back.

    #85840
    rthomas44
    Participant

    Gott is and will be the coach at NCSU as long as he wants the job and Yow is happy. Archie just got a new job and that is that.

    #85842
    ancsu87
    Participant

    I recall Rick you were the one who told others that if they don’t like your posts to just ignore them. How about you do the same instead of being the queen whiny bitch? Better yet why don’t you answer a direct question put to you twice. Or are you waiting for Jigawatt stat review to prove with “facts” how shirty a coach that is 4 for 4 in NCAAT bid and two Sweet 16 visits really is?

    #85844
    TheCOWDOG
    Moderator

    Well…Gowolves…my last didn’t clear the filters.

    The headlines are as innocuous as a mosquito…

    Written by the lone, surviving copyboy from your local rag…Or, that “.. Wait til you see what happens next,” chick.

    Bad form

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