CJ Leslie Officially Re-Opens Recruitment

As most regular readers know, SFN has hinted at this development since January, but now that Dave Telep is bringing it into the public domain (note – this is a premium article, so we won’t post any content), we can be more explicit. CJ Leslie has re-opened his commitment, and is no longer an NC State verbal.

We have definitely heard that Memphis will be heavily involved. I have lamented that April 11, 2006 was the day that NC State’s basketball program died, after many years on life support. That was the day John Calipari, arguably the perfect coach for NC State, said no. Go ahead, re-read the Dan Wetzel article we linked and try not to slit your wrists.

And Calipari is the gift that keeps on giving for NC State. Despite self-serving and transparently jealous/defense mechanism comments from some calling Calipari a “thug” or a guy who could only get his players in at Memphis – please note we are fishing from the same waters. DeMarcus Cousins, probably John Wall, and now maybe CJ Leslie. The only difference is that Calipari actually wins these recruiting battles. Does anyone have any doubt who would have come out on top if Calipari was at NC State, and Lowe at Memphis? Didn’t think so.

Now, it’s important to note what this does not mean. We have not been told that Leslie has definitely decided to go elsewhere. He maystill end up at NC State. But publicly de-committing is a very, very bad omen for Sidney Lowe and the health of his program entering the crucial 2009-10 season.

As far as the timing is concerned, we were told that CJ would re-open his commitment at the end of the basketball season. This weekend, he made good on what we were told he would do.

Link with audio comments about the situation from Dave Telep.

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183 Responses to CJ Leslie Officially Re-Opens Recruitment

  1. wufpup76 03/15/2009 at 1:43 PM #

    “There is absolutely no reason to continue employing Sidney Lowe beyond next season. We need to make a change as soon as the right replacement is available.”

    ^I assume you meant barring a miraculous turnaround to the top half of the league and a NCAAT invite?

  2. Rochester 03/15/2009 at 1:44 PM #

    Lowe should be looking overseas for players who can step in and help immediately. Some of them might be glad just to have a place to play and get an education and not mind that we’ve sucked out loud the past three years.

    The failure to finish strong this season has really turned next year into a win-or-else situation. The problem there is, even if we do win, it will be too late to save the 2010 recruiting class. If Leslie goes elsewhere, we need to add someone else to Harrow (who hopefully stays committed because he and Lo Brown are good friends) or we’ll have a year without much talent infusion, which will sting for years to come.

    Of course, hopefully the next time we hire a coach, he’ll have a recruiting network already in place because he won’t be a novice.

  3. GAWolf 03/15/2009 at 1:46 PM #

    I’ve heard that one very important booster who may or may not have his name on a particular building you may or may not walk by on Saturdays in the fall is the sole reason Fowler is still around. I have no personal knowledge of this, admittedly, but I have heard it from several DIFFERENT groups of people.

  4. kyjelly 03/15/2009 at 1:47 PM #

    ^ Gee what a suprise ,”but Sid is such a great recruiter”
    As far as Grant is concerned no one or at least I did not say he “saved” VCU’s program. What he did was put his on stamp on it with running and pressing uptempo style (like Sid said we were going to play last season and this season!)Grant also was responsible as Donavan’s asst @ Fla recruited both national championship teams and since Grant left Florida has fallen off from when he was there,not a coincidence .

  5. MattN 03/15/2009 at 1:48 PM #

    “There was a movement among some of the heavy hitters to oust Fowler, shortly after we gave Chuckles the old heave ho. Obviously, it did not succeed.

    I don’t know any more details, and haven’t heard rumblings of a new uprising.”

    As has been said many, many times, the departure of Lowe is useless unless Fowler preceeds him. As long as Lee is in charge we might as well keep Lowe.

  6. frankiepack 03/15/2009 at 1:56 PM #

    Rochester:”Lowe should look to overseas for players who can step in and help immediently”
    Well that is what everyone else does. He should have done so right from the start considering his one good run at the end of the season was sparked and resonsible not by Sid’s coaching ability but from the last point guard we have had here from OVERSEA’s.

  7. BJD95 03/15/2009 at 1:59 PM #

    I’ve seen enough to make a judgment on Lowe. No more waiting for miracles.

  8. wufpup76 03/15/2009 at 2:02 PM #

    “I’ve seen enough to make a judgment on Lowe. No more waiting for miracles.”

    ^Ok. I got confused when you said “beyond next season” – my bad.

  9. JeremyH 03/15/2009 at 2:12 PM #

    Does anyone think that the reading of this blog, and some of the things said with a negative slant helped us lose Wall, Cousins, and now Leslie? Think about it.

    Just at the basketball team level, we should be a much better team next year. LoBrown is an amazing upgrade at SG, Mays/Gonzo will battle it out for PG, Howell is a nice complement to Smith down low, and I think Horner can take over whatever role Costner had, and is a good glue guy. Overall it’s an upgraded team, with better ball-handing and speed.

    We will have more natural scorers, and although we do lose some size, it’s not like that size was doing much besides jacking up threes.

    There is actually reason to be optimistic. I hope Leslie the best and maybe he still comes here.

  10. Rochester 03/15/2009 at 2:18 PM #

    JeremyH, I am optimistic we’ll be a little better next year. And if not (as in if no NCAAT), it will be time to make a change.

    As for recruits reading this site, I think the bigger problem for them not wanting to come to NC State is the fact that we’re sitting home praying for an NIT bid that won’t come, while 65 other schools are going dancing in the real tourney.

  11. rbwolf 03/15/2009 at 2:20 PM #

    This was it for me. I have been going to the basketball games for years. I will not be giving anymore money to State for anything (i.e. shirts hats or tickets).I have no faith in my school or the coaching staff. The hell with next year. I know Brown is a hell of a player but if he is smart he will ask for a release of his letter now before it gets worst.
    I mean when you look and the top 100 players in the rankings for 2010 and 2011 hell know one puts NC State as a place they want to come. Now think about that and tell me we dont need a new coach. SOMEONE HELP

  12. Ed89 03/15/2009 at 2:21 PM #

    ^^^Does anyone think that the reading of this blog, and some of the things said with a negative slant helped us lose Wall, Cousins, and now Leslie? Think about it.

    good point. it definitely doesn’t help. But, that being said, i enjoy all of different perspectives. I think every school has the same “lunatic fringe,” tho. We just have more reasons to be lunatics. 🙁

  13. Astral Rain 03/15/2009 at 2:25 PM #

    Then again, I think of Maryland and it’s probation and didn’t they go 0-14, then a few years later they were relevant again? I think we may have to truly hit bottom to fix the problems.

    That’s why I said after the VT game that I was almost rooting for the Hindenburg.

  14. GoldenChain 03/15/2009 at 2:26 PM #

    A point guard from Concord, NC just won the SEC championship game as a freshman at Miss St (a definate underdog). He had 5 assist and stole the ball with 5 sec left to secure the win.
    That PG, Dee Bost, was the NCHSAA Male Athelete of the year in the 2006-2007 school year. He was QB of the 3A State Champ football team (played at C-F) and PG of the 2007 3A State Champ basketball team (PLAYED AT Wm Neal Reynolds!).
    I called the basketball office but they didn’t recruit Dee.
    How can we let in state talent get away?!

  15. redfred2 03/15/2009 at 2:28 PM #

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  16. redfred2 03/15/2009 at 2:35 PM #

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  17. BJD95 03/15/2009 at 2:42 PM #

    Yeah, keep thinking that “negativity” is the root cause of our problems, if it makes you feel better.

    Our problems have multiple, systemic causes:

    1) A university administration that does not value athletics success;
    2) An uttlerly incompetent athletic director, who also does not value on-field/court success; and
    3) A basketball coach that is in way over his head, with no idea what he is doing.

  18. Garrett 03/15/2009 at 2:43 PM #

    This is painful news. The 2010 class is what’s been keeping Lowe’s head above water for the most part, but that life raft is running out of air.

    We’ll be better next year, with what I think will be a better set of personnel for what Lowe wants to do (stronger, tougher post players and more athletic guards). Problem is, our ‘better’ right now doesn’t look so hot.

  19. wolfonthehill 03/15/2009 at 2:46 PM #

    I can only say thanks to whomever it was who hinted at this last week. It softened the impact a bit.

    Question: Is it possible to make yourself just stop caring in any way about an entire sport? I’d really like to do so with college basketball at this point.

  20. Pack Leader 03/15/2009 at 2:52 PM #

    Mark it in the book.

    CJ will NOT come to state while he see’s the negativity around raleigh.

    Wall is good friends with Leslie, he is trying to sway Cj to Memphis

    State will not get anything more than a few 3 star recruits next year after a 2-11 season in the acc

    Sid is losing his grasp on reality and his world is soon to start crumbling

    If state starts out slow look for state to fire him mid season to get the jump on recruiting a real head coach.

    Sids claim to fame is “wait til next year. Our recruits are amazing….” thats bad

    Calapari laughs himself to sleep every night at State and Lowe.

    I cry myself to sleep every night cause of calapari.

    anyone feel good about state basketball today??? nope not even sid

  21. 61Packer 03/15/2009 at 2:56 PM #

    SFN: “He (CJ Leslie) MAY still end up at NC State.”
    Right. And the Wolfpack MAY still end up with an at-large bid this evening when the NCAA pairings are announced.

    Even the most ardent Sidney Lowe supporter now has to see this developing situation for what it really is: ABANDON SHIP!

  22. RBCRowdy 03/15/2009 at 3:00 PM #

    If this blog is viewed as negative, whatever. I can’t sit and watch quietly when our basketball off seasons now start Friday of the ACC Tournament.

    Basketball is trending down and the promise of a future talent influx is looking less and less likely.

  23. GAWolf 03/15/2009 at 3:06 PM #

    In trying to take a step back from the ledge and look at this from a different light, I can’t help but go back to the idea that this KID committed to a college at such an early age. We’re not talking about a 3rd generation child of the NC State culture like maybe some of us were, but rather a kid who can play ball “good.” He makes a “verbal commitment.” Truthfully we all know that’s meaningless until he signs a Letter or Intent and these days even that doesn’t mean much.

    So the kid decommits… why did he “commit” in the first place and what does it REALLY mean?

    Obviously this means we *might* miss out on a great recruit (I don’t really need you guys to bang out the obvious), but is this event truly anymore reason to commit collective sepuka than any of the previous thousands of disappointments we’ve experienced as Wolfpack fans over the last two decades?

    This is certainly no more discouraging than countless other things.

    You want to read something REALLY discouraging? Read the press release from the University the day we hired Fowler.

    Media Contacts:

    Annabelle Vaughan, NC State Athletics

    Sept. 5, 2000

    Fowler Named Director of Athletics at NC State University
    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

    Raleigh, N.C. — Chancellor Marye Anne Fox has announced that Lee Fowler has been named Athletics Director at North Carolina State University. Fowler, who has served in the same capacity at Middle Tennessee State University since 1994, boasts 27 years of experience in collegiate athletics as a player, coach and administrator.

    In making the announcement today, Chancellor Fox said, “With this appointment, NC State has reason to celebrate a new era for our athletics program — an era in which the Wolfpack will become a contender at the highest levels of intercollegiate competition. As a former player and coach and as a seasoned administrator, Lee Fowler brings NC State the range of skills we need in an athletics director. We’re excited about his future as the leader of the Wolfpack.”

    At Middle Tennessee State, Fowler led the Blue Raiders’ move from the 1AA level to Division 1A. He negotiated MTSU’s acceptance and move from the Ohio Valley Conference to the Sunbelt Conference; his program has won that league’s All-Sports Trophy for the best all-around sports program each of the past five years after winning it only once in the previous 50 years.

    In 1997, Fowler was appointed to the prestigious NCAA Division I Men’s Basketball Committee and serves as the chairman of the NCAA television sub-committee for basketball. He is also a member of the NCAA’s certification team and was appointed to the Tennessee Sports Hall of Fame Board of Directors by the lieutenant governor.

    A 1974 graduate of Vanderbilt, Fowler has upgraded the MTSU football program through a capital campaign and increased football season-ticket sales by 600 percent during his tenure. Under his direction, the Blue Raiders’ marketing and sponsorship programs have been restructured and refocused, resulting in a 300 percent increase in sponsorships. Affirmative action numbers have also increased by 300 percent at Middle Tennessee State with the addition of personnel and three women’s sports programs.

    Prior to his appointment at MTSU, the 48-year-old Fowler served as Associate Athletic Director and Director of the Tiger Clubs at the University of Memphis from 1986 to 1994. At Memphis, he increased fund-raising totals from $634,000 in 1985 to a record total of $3,059,000 in 1993, the highest level in school history before or since. The number of top-level donors to the Memphis program more than doubled during his stint.

    Fowler served as an assistant coach for the Memphis men’s basketball team from 1979 to 1986. The Tiger squads posted an overall record of 154-45 and advanced to the Final Four in 1986. The squad was ranked in the Top 10 five of his seven years on the coaching staff. From 1975 to 1979, Fowler served as an assistant coach at his alma mater, Vanderbilt University.

    As a student-athlete, Fowler was a starter and top reserve on the Commodores’ 1974 Southeastern Conference Championship men’s basketball team, the second in Vanderbilt’s history. The squad posted an overall record of 59-21 during his playing career, the best three-year record in school history.

    Fowler earned his bachelor of arts in history from Vanderbilt in 1974 and earned his master’s in athletic administration/fitness and wellness from the University of Memphis in 1986.

    The Columbia, Tenn., native will begin work at NC State on Oct. 1. He will receive a five-year contract with an annual salary of $203,000.

    Fowler is married to the former Carol Murray of St. Clair Shores, Mich., who works as a stockbroker for Paine-Webber Inc. The couple has three daughters, Ashley, 22, Kristin Leigh, 15, and Carlee, 11. Ashley is a recent graduate of the University of Oregon, where she competed on the cycling team. A triathlete, she is currently pursuing a graduate degree and teaching at MTSU. Kristin Leigh is a sophomore in high school and competes in volleyball and basketball, while Carlee is in sixth grade at a magnet school in Murfreesboro, Tenn.

    — vaughan —

    NOW read this from the University (through gopack.com) on December 11, 2008 (Fowler’s underlings circling the wagons just a few months ago??)

    Courtesy: NC State
    Release: 12/11/2008

    September 5, 2000 signaled a new era of athletic excellence for NC State University. That was the day Lee G. Fowler was introduced as the new Director of Athletics. The most critical need would become his major priority— to restore NC State’s athletics facilities to a level enjoyed by the top programs in America.

    Fowler brought a depth of experience and professional leadership to NC State. He had played basketball at Vanderbilt University, served as an assistant basketball coach, then the director of fund raising at Memphis, and as athletic director at Middle Tennessee State where he enjoyed great success.

    Fowler understood that only through teamwork and the support of the university’s administration would he be able to meet the huge challenges of the facilities plan. That plan was an unprecedented seven-year, $120 million building campaign. That meant not just raising the funding in that time frame, but also completing the construction and renovation of the facilities.

    An ambitious goal? Without question. But was it doable? And secondly, was it doable while still meeting the day-to-day challenges of running a department with nearly200 coaches and staff, and 550 plus student-athletes, and meeting a rising annual operating budget of more than $40 million.

    After eight years of determined and tireless effort, Fowler does, in fact, have the Wolfpack facilities among the nation’s elite. And for that he thanks the University administration, the fans, and the thousands of Wolfpack Club members who gave their loyal support to make the plan a reality. The final phase of the campaign was completed in the spring of 2008 with the completion the Dail Softball Stadium and Derr Track and Soccer complex.

    The face of NC State athletics has changed dramatically in the past eight years. And it’s not only the high visibility sports that have benefited. Improvements include: state of the art academic support and study centers and increased academic support staffing, a newly renovated Case Athletic Academic Center, multiple strength training facilities, new locker rooms, multiple sports medicine facilities, student-athlete lounge areas, and expanded support services that include video, marketing, media relations, and student-athlete development. The icing on the cake is that top-quality competition venues now exist for virtually all of the 23 men’s and women’s sports.

    Known as a “hands-on” director, the 56-year-old Fowler is committed to success in all sports. Fowler’s management approach is to provide the tools, resources and support that the coaches need to succeed, then expect quality programs and positive results.
    “I want all of our teams to aspire to the Top 25; to compete for the top tier of the ACC and for championships. Chancellor Oblinger often says that NC State aspires to excellence across the board—and athletics is included in that vision,” says Fowler.

    His approach and all-out effort the past eight years seems to be working as the Wolfpack has reached new levels with 16 sports qualifying for post-season play in 2000-01, 13 sports in 2004-05, a record 17 in 2005-06, 15 in 2006-07 and 14 in 2007-08.

    Ticket sales, attendance and fundraising are a good barometer of an athletic program’s financial health and each of these areas has grown dramatically during Fowler’s tenure. Football has sold out its season ticket inventory the past eight years. Men’s basketball sales have exceeded a record $5 million the past five years and attendance has ranked in the Top 20 nationally every year since the RBC Center opened. Wolfpack Club annual giving continues to set records each year, despite concurrently raising nearly $100 million to fund new facilities.

    Relative to gender equity, Fowler’s objective has been to exceed, not just meet, the requirements of Title IX. He has provided the maximum allowable scholarships for all sports, as well as major upgrades to women’s sports facilities. He has also made it a priority to create effective partnerships with Chancellor James Oblinger, the chancellor’s executive officers team, the administration and faculty, the Wolfpack Club and the student body.

    Academically, NC State has been a leader in the number of ACC post-graduate scholarship awards won, and student-athletes continue to achieve graduation rates and overall grade point averages comparable to the general student body. Fowler continues to increase funding for the Academic Support Program as part of a priority commitment to the academic success of the student-athletes.

    Fowler has also made it a priority to host NCAA Tournaments and Championship events. Hosting provides support for NC State’s teams and generates tourism and positive publicity for the region. NC State hosted the first and second rounds of the Division I NCAA Men’s Basketball Championship Tournament in March 2008 and received outstanding reviews

    In 2002, Fowler chaired the prestigious NCAA Division I Men’s Basketball Committee after serving on the committee since 1997. He was named Time.com’s Person of the Week in March of 2002. Fowler now chairs the NCAA Division I Men’s Basketball Issues Committee and also serves on various ACC committees.

    Other activities also keep him busy, such as the annual Lee Fowler Charity Golf Classic, which has raised more than $100,000 for the Jim ‘Catfish’ Hunter chapter of the ALS Foundation (which fights Lou Gehrig’s disease). Fowler also co-hosts a half-hour weekly television show from April through August, “Inside Wolfpack Sports,” which airs Sundays at 10:30 am on WRAZ-Fox 50 in Raleigh and on selected cable systems statewide.

    A native of Columbia, Tenn., Fowler is married to the former Carol Murray of St. Clair Shores, Michigan. The couple has three daughters, Ashley, Kristin Leigh and Carlee. Ashley, married to Trevor Giles, earned a master’s degree from MTSU and works as a pharmaceutical sales representative for GlaxoSmithKline. The Giles recently had a daughter, Raleigh Elizabeth. Kristin is a graduate of NC State, while Carlee is currently a student at NC State.

  24. BJD95 03/15/2009 at 3:09 PM #

    This blog is objective. The reality in basketball is negative, so negative is what you get.

  25. redfred2 03/15/2009 at 3:10 PM #

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