CJ Leslie Officially Re-Opens Recruitment

As most regular readers know, SFN has hinted at this development since January, but now that Dave Telep is bringing it into the public domain (note – this is a premium article, so we won’t post any content), we can be more explicit. CJ Leslie has re-opened his commitment, and is no longer an NC State verbal.

We have definitely heard that Memphis will be heavily involved. I have lamented that April 11, 2006 was the day that NC State’s basketball program died, after many years on life support. That was the day John Calipari, arguably the perfect coach for NC State, said no. Go ahead, re-read the Dan Wetzel article we linked and try not to slit your wrists.

And Calipari is the gift that keeps on giving for NC State. Despite self-serving and transparently jealous/defense mechanism comments from some calling Calipari a “thug” or a guy who could only get his players in at Memphis – please note we are fishing from the same waters. DeMarcus Cousins, probably John Wall, and now maybe CJ Leslie. The only difference is that Calipari actually wins these recruiting battles. Does anyone have any doubt who would have come out on top if Calipari was at NC State, and Lowe at Memphis? Didn’t think so.

Now, it’s important to note what this does not mean. We have not been told that Leslie has definitely decided to go elsewhere. He maystill end up at NC State. But publicly de-committing is a very, very bad omen for Sidney Lowe and the health of his program entering the crucial 2009-10 season.

As far as the timing is concerned, we were told that CJ would re-open his commitment at the end of the basketball season. This weekend, he made good on what we were told he would do.

Link with audio comments about the situation from Dave Telep.

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183 Responses to CJ Leslie Officially Re-Opens Recruitment

  1. ShootingGuard 03/15/2009 at 12:11 PM #

    I am not sure why anyone takes any “ha, I told you so” with regard to Lowe’s ultimate failure. Anyone with any sense knew it was a high risk proposition. The problem was not Lowe per se, the problem was that Lowe became the only choice after Fowler completely destroyed the coaching search. Had Ron Wellman or some other competent AD been at State, State would have a proven college coach looking forward to bracketology, and Sid Lowe would remain the loveable legend of 1983 who you enjoy seeing when he is in the house or on the road somewhere. Sadly, Lee Fowler destroyed State basketball and Sid Lowe’s place in NC State lore!

    How do we get Lee Fowler fired in time to pick up whatever pieces remain after Lowe?!

  2. wolfpacktexx 03/15/2009 at 12:12 PM #

    In the past few years Wolfpack fans kept drinking the Kool-aid. Now look at reality. 2nd season in a row one and done. No Favors, No Cousins, No Wall and now CJ Leslie decommiting. Why dont we understand the words “going backwards”. At the helm we have “uncle Jed” in a so called “national search” to find the leader of our previous respected women’s BBAll program.

  3. redfred2 03/15/2009 at 12:34 PM #

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  4. Daily Update 03/15/2009 at 12:36 PM #

    BJD95: You hit the nail on the head and touched on some issues Gawolf and I discussed on our trip to the ACC tournament. Calipari was the perfect hire for NC State, probably should have been targeted ahead of Rick Barnes, and if he would have taken our job, then we would have landed both Cousins, Wall and Leslie. We could have competed at the top of the conference again almost instantly.

    With Leslie decommitting, then this begins the unraveling of the entire situation with Lowe and Fowler:

    1. The 2010 class is now a question mark. Without Leslie committed, then the recruiting class is currently no reason to bring Lowe back for year 4 or 5 unless the outlook changes on the court next year and in recruiting. Essentially without a top 10 recruiting class and a .500 season in the ACC, then there is no reason not to go ahead and make a change in the basketball program next year. If the right guy is available after the NCAA tournament this year, then you go ahead and hire him now.

    2. Recruiting is only going to get more difficult from here. Sidney missed on Favors, Cousins, and now it appears he will miss on Wall, so he has lost all momentum especially with Leslie decommitting.

    3. Not to mention his recruiting is becoming hamstrung with a disappointing end to this year and maybe a worse outlook for next year.

    4. The media is going to pile on/cover the news regarding NC State and unfortunately there isn’t anything “positive” to cover.

    It’s all bad. The program has been on a downward trend since Herb left and Sidney hasn’t been able to right the ship. It could get really, really ugly from this point forward.

    So that means the people at NC State have to start preparing for the worst. Understanding that a change in the basketball program may be necessary as early as right now if the right coach was available, then the wheels have to be set in motion to put a new AD in place IMMEDIATELY. If NC State were run by competent people, then they would already have that AD targeted and already had discussions to know the package it would take to get him/her here by April/May of this year. If that AD had connections to the right coach for NC State, then maybe even those discussions would have already taken place so that if it looked like it was necessary the AD could make that change as soon as he took the job.

    ADs are a lot less expensive than head football and basketball coaches, so target an AD who has success in managing basketball coaching transitions and might have some connections to currently successful coaches and offer that AD a package he cannot refuse. You have the facilities race, skyrocketing coaching salaries, so why not the salaries of ADs too?

    Gawolf and I were discussing Calipari and how boring it must be for him to be in Conference USA. Hell, maybe even he would still be interested although that seems unlikely. Whether it is Gilespie, T. Smith, the Baylor coach, S. Miller, or someone none of us have ever heard talked about, NC State must start preparing to make a run at that coach when he is available.

    And that means if he is available right now, then you go hire him before he lands at another BCS job where it would make no sense for him to leave to come to NC State.

    But in typical NC State fashion that isn’t what is going to happen.

  5. Wulfpack 03/15/2009 at 12:38 PM #

    So why have they gotten all of the minutes, Red, THREE years later? If they have been so damn bad, then how come he hasn’t been able to find suitable replacements? It’s a fair question.

  6. turnoffthetv 03/15/2009 at 12:38 PM #

    This doesn’t come as a surprise to me. McCauley and Costner both decommitted last year and they were on the friggin roster for God’s sakes.

  7. Wulfpack 03/15/2009 at 12:42 PM #

    Red, Sidney Lowe came to us with a record in the NBA as a talent evaluator. Though I think he is struggling in the “coaching” department, I think he deserves credit for talent evaluation.

    So you’re saying he played the “Big three” for other reasons than them simply being better than the guys behind them? If so, I hate to say it, but we’re screwed if that’s the case.

  8. turnoffthetv 03/15/2009 at 12:45 PM #

    So now Sid has experienced decommits from that previous dudes recruits, decommits from players on the roster, and now decommits from his recruits. Somehow I have this eerie feeling that we aint seen jack S*** yet.

  9. GAWolf 03/15/2009 at 12:46 PM #

    ^^ Holy hell. That is true… and very sad (current players decommitting).

    Can you guys imagine the media coverage of us firing one of our own to hire the coach who hired Wall’s AAU coach just to get Wall? Personal Fouls II and the death penalty to follow.

  10. redfred2 03/15/2009 at 12:50 PM #

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  11. graywolf 03/15/2009 at 12:50 PM #

    Put plainly: Sidney Lowe is officially on the hot seat of : fans, probably the media and fans of basketball in general. Sadly, Obleinger and the BOT don’t even know we have a team much less a team in dire straits and our athletic director “knows basketball” and does not see a problem. If LTR revenue stops coming in and season tickets dramatically decline then things will change but if Fowler is involved with the next hire then none of the problems will be solved. What a SAD state from a once proud university. Willis Casey is rolling over in his grave.

  12. GAWolf 03/15/2009 at 12:56 PM #

    This year we had not a single player on any of the All Conference teams…

    I’m convinced there’s more talent than that in our underclassmen. I think that will show in coming years, too.

  13. Texpack 03/15/2009 at 12:58 PM #

    .500 or better in conference & a Top 50 RPI next year to keep his job with the Leslie decommit. I think he should have played this season for the future instead of wasting minutes on Courtney Fells and Brandon Costner late in the season.

    If Fowler is still the AD he won’t get the axe.

  14. Wulfpack 03/15/2009 at 1:01 PM #

    You mean the 4 points in 23 minutes Tracy Smith against Maryland? Or how about his 2 points in 21 minutes against UNC?

    And it still doesn’t explain why Costner and Fells get the minutes they do.

    JJ Hickson made such an impression on me, I damn near forgot he played for us. Seriously. That is sad. My bad on that one…

  15. BJD95 03/15/2009 at 1:02 PM #

    The talent on our roster in not top half of the ACC caliber. And recruiting is going to get even tougher.

    There is absolutely no reason to continue employing Sidney Lowe beyond next season. We need to make a change as soon as the right replacement is available.

  16. redfred2 03/15/2009 at 1:04 PM #

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  17. redfred2 03/15/2009 at 1:07 PM #

    Wulf, did you, or did you not, originally say that Lowe hasn’t brought in ANYONE who was capable of challenging those upperclassmen?

    I thought so.

    Oh yeah, don’t cherry pick one game, it still doesn’t over shadow the total LACK of heart and effort that those guys displayed over their entire collegiate careers.

  18. Wulfpack 03/15/2009 at 1:17 PM #

    And Sidney Lowe shouldn’t even be remotely held accountable despite the fact they played for three seasons under his direction.

    Yea Red, the passion exhibited by guys like Degand, CJ Williams, Simon Harris, Marques Johnson…has just been truly extraordinary.

    This program is dead. If you haven’t realized it by now, you probably will refuse to ever come to grips with it. It’s everyone else’s fault but Sidney Lowe’s, of course.

  19. redfred2 03/15/2009 at 1:17 PM #

    “JJ Hickson made such an impression on me, I damn near forgot he played for us.”

    You think you forgot about Hickson, he’s still around, and definitely making impression on others while playing BB somewhere.

    You wait, when this era is finally over, these current guys will sucked into the abyss, never to be heard of again. Kinda like those of the decade that led us to this point.

  20. inhoc... 03/15/2009 at 1:17 PM #

    how often do ADs actually get in the “hot seat”? i personally hardly ever hear of that. i assume some of the people who read/post on SFN make for a pretty large sum of contributions to the wolfpack club.

    what about a unified effort from us to make our concerns heard in the higher pay grades? aside from being contributors, how about those feel this way and rub elbows with those who are close to the powers that be.

    i honestly feel very passionate about this, and i am one of those 25 year old people who have only heard about the glories of the good ole days….and i would like to see things get on an upswing sooner rather than later. i lamented so long over amato getting fired, and i dont want to see it happen again with lowe, he clearly isnt the answer….

  21. redfred2 03/15/2009 at 1:22 PM #

    “That very bad lapse in judgement, is layed squarely in Sidney Lowe’s lap.”

    ^Wulf, my words, the first time I posted that thought.

  22. redfred2 03/15/2009 at 1:29 PM #

    “Yea Red, the passion exhibited by guys like Degand, CJ Williams, Simon Harris, Marques Johnson…has just been truly extraordinary.”

    Wulf, just like Noah, you cannot grasp the overall. You are mentioning players that are credited to, and the PRODUCT OF, NC STATE UNIVERSITY’S OWN, TWO DECADE LONG, and it’s CONTINUING SCREW UP.

    But again, you just cannot grasp that FACT.

  23. BJD95 03/15/2009 at 1:34 PM #

    There was a movement among some of the heavy hitters to oust Fowler, shortly after we gave Chuckles the old heave ho. Obviously, it did not succeed.

    I don’t know any more details, and haven’t heard rumblings of a new uprising.

  24. inhoc... 03/15/2009 at 1:40 PM #

    it seems as if the 11th hour should be near (to me, its quickly passing by)….i hope it is…i feel like talking and venting on here servs absolutely no purpose. i am looking forward to the spring game, and football season. is RW playing baseball right now? or will he wait until spring football is over?

  25. redfred2 03/15/2009 at 1:42 PM #

    “heavy hitters”???

    What’s that considered to be around Raleigh these days, a couple Boy Scout troop leaders or something maybe?

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