Fanblogs: Reviewing the Top Candidates (Updated 3:30pm)

College football’s annual coaching carousel is in high gear and NC State is taking spin this year.

SFN has already blogged some commentary and analysis to set the table for some of our future entries. But, we don’t expect football coaching scoop to be quite as clear as the basketball scoop that we were able to analyze back in April because of the existence of the 3rd party search firm.

(By the way – SFN recently was privy to a complete debrief of the Wolfpack’s basketball search. What an amazing experience to hear all of the inside scoop and perspective. We walked away from the conversation surprised at just how damn accurate and timely we were with our coverage of the search. Even some things that we were somewhat unclear we ended up being closer than we even thought!)

Today, Fanblogs.com has blogged an entry reviewing top potential coaching candidates from around the country. South Florida’s
Jim Leavitt did not make Fanblogs’ initial list despite the expectation that he is sure to get some looks from some open jobs. (Not so sure about the fit at NC State. But, names like Leavitt are why you run a process and get to know multiple candidates.)

Red and White from State has taken the Fanblogs entry and expanded it with an NC State focus. Great work from these great guys!!!

If Bill Cowher ultimately accepts the Wolfpack’s job as he has indicated for years was something that held interest for him, then this list may not be of much interest to NC State fans.

If Paul Johnson is truly emerging with the kind of momentum that we hear, then this list may not be of much interest to NC State fans.

But, we love coaching carousels and don’t want to ignore anything that is going on out there, so we thought that we would share their list.

Other football coaching search related to comments:

* First, have to accept the not-so-hard-to-accept proposition that Bill Cowher is done in Pittsburgh at the end of this year. It is something that folks in Pittsburgh have generally accepted as this year has progressed. Additionally, the guy didn’t buy a house in Raleigh, join Northridge Country Club, and send his daughter to Ravenscroft because he was going to be living in Pittsburgh much longer. Or any other NFL city for that matter. Heck, just today the SteelCityInsider wrote the following:

First, Cowher’s contract isn’t extended during the off-season, which on its own is fine, but it’s created a mini-media storm that is stronger than ever 12 weeks into the season. Second, in the years Cowher has been in Pittsburgh, I have never seen him so unenthusiastic during games. It’d be one thing if he was Bill Belichick: a pensive, contemplative strategist who eschewed a lot of the rah-rah stuff. But Cowher isn’t that type of guy. He’s made his living as a player’s coach. The rah-rah stuff is what he’s best at. Let the coordinators handle the details and let Cowher motivate the troops. I’ve seen nothing to indicate Cowher is motivated to do anything other than coach five more regular season games, load up the moving truck and head south.

* If Cowher is truly done in the NFL, then it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that he would be first on everyone’s list close to this search.

* It is fascinating how much of the media deals with Cowher’s association to the State job. Evidently, they truly think that dozens/hundreds/thousands of State people are crazy. Do these Einstein’s really think that all of these State people – many of which are highly intelligent and successful – simultaneously sat in a room and originated the name Bill Cowher as a potential coach simply because he is an alum? Of course not.

* The only reason that Cowher’s name is discussed as an alternative is because Cowher has chosen to publicly and privately comment regarding his dream/desire to finish his coaching career on the sidelines in Raleigh. Has that dream changed? We will soon see because this is probably Cowher’s last chance at the job. The next hire will get at least four to five years before any questions would arise about job security.

* The main issue with Cowher could revolve around timing. In a perfect scenario Cowher would take a year off from the Steelers to re-charge and would handed the keys after the 2007 season. But, that would mean another year of failure on the field and long term damage to the program off-the-field. Cowher has told friends at State that he would never want it to look as though he was the reason that Coach Amato (or any coach) would be pushed out of their job. With State making a move after this season Cowher has nothing with which to worry. Legitimate risk would have existed had Amato returned for an 8th year and achieved the most minimum of success. State simply had to make the move this year.

* Despite the growing momentum behind Paul Johnson‘s candidacy, we hope that NC State & Chuck Neinas fully vet and analyze all potential candidates for the job. We have no problem comparing all candidates (after Cowher) to Paul Johnson; we just hope that all candidates are run through a truly legitimate process and given a thorough look. It is danger to just throw your weight behind Johnson and close your eyes to everyone else.

* All the Paul Johnson-talk indicates to us that he must be interested in the job. There is no way his name could have gotten out so early unless he wanted his name in there.

* We like the evolution of the names on the football list. With names like Johnson, Fisher, Chow and who knows who else – can you tell the difference between who is working on the football list and who was responsible for a basketball search where Lee Fowler CHOSE to pursue names like Steve Lavin, Lon Kruger and John Beilen in front of Sidney Lowe or one of many ‘up and comers’ whom Fowler should have been more in touch with but was not?

* It will be interesting to learn if the current ACC affiliation of Tom O’Brien will negatively impact his ability to express interest in the NC State job. TOB’s name was floated during Carolina’s ‘search’. Based on what we have heard from college football circles, we have no doubt that TOB would welcome a fresh start outside of Boston College.

* We made reference to the comments included in this entry yesterday. Question for you — why isn’t Skip Holtz‘s name being connected to the NC State job? People forget that Holtz built a pretty successful program from scratch (and with no resources) at UConn before choosing to join his father at South Carolina. That didn’t work too well. Regardless, Holtz is back on his own and immediately succeeded in turning around a pitiful ECU program.

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103 Responses to Fanblogs: Reviewing the Top Candidates (Updated 3:30pm)

  1. choppack1 11/27/2006 at 9:10 PM #

    I can see why you would be concerned, but I’ve never seen a coach who has enjoyed the level of success that PJ has enjoyed not work out. You’re talking about a coach who destroyed Tressel in the championship game when he was GaSouthern and Tressel was a Youngstown state – 59-24.

    Now, we can poo poo what he’s done at Navy, but he’s beating the teams he’s supposed to beat – and he’s beating his rivals. He’s positioned Navy as the top service academy when it comes to football – while Bobby Ross – a coach who has won a national championship and coached his team to a Super Bowl is at Army and while Fisher Dewberry is at Air Force. I think he’d do the same thing for NC State.

  2. GAWolf 11/27/2006 at 9:27 PM #

    I was very close friends with several players at Georgia while Donnan was the head guy… we can do better. He has NO adjustment ability. While at Georgia if Quincy Carter played well, they won. If he didn’t, they got the shit kicked out of them. Not to mention, he had way too many players go pro to not produce anymore than he did as far as W’s. Robert Edwards, Patrick Pass, Olandis Gary (left Marshal with him to go to UGA I believe), Quincy Carter (though he was ultimately the death of him too), Champ Bailey, Hines Ward… that’s just the offensive skill guys… start looking at D and the linemen and it’s a much more impressive situation than the wins on his resume while in Athens. That, to me, is indicative of the same situation we just purged ourselves of….

  3. legacyman 11/27/2006 at 9:41 PM #

    I would be very shocked if Donnan got another sniff after the bridges he has burned. No one but Cowher will do for me.

  4. class of 74 11/27/2006 at 9:53 PM #

    I still like Johnson but can’t argue with SFN’s premise of letting the process play out to see what else might be there. Perfect is not out there but several very good’s are. As long as the AD is not leading the parade I feel much better about what happens.

  5. teacher 11/27/2006 at 10:06 PM #

    How did Jim Harbaugh get on the list? I saw that on TV earlier…just wondering. Maybe I should know, but I don’t.

  6. jwrenn29 11/27/2006 at 10:06 PM #

    850s blog is now reporting that Cowher will turn down the NCSU attention and job tomorrow at a press conference: http://www.850thebuzz.com/blog/

    I had wondered if the timing was just too soon for Cowher. He wants to spend time with the family I think, if this news is true.

  7. teacher 11/27/2006 at 10:07 PM #

    How did Jim Harbaugh get on the list? I saw that on TV earlier…just wondering. Maybe I should know, but I don’t.

  8. teacher 11/27/2006 at 10:07 PM #

    How did Jim Harbaugh get on the list? I saw that on TV earlier…just wondering. Maybe I should know, but I don’t.

  9. Your AD, Lee Fowler 11/27/2006 at 10:21 PM #

    If Cowher doesn’t take it this time, he may never be a head coach for NC State. There is no “interim coach” scenario that is acceptable. Take it or leave it, but lets get a decision.

  10. jwrenn29 11/27/2006 at 10:40 PM #

    I bet he leaves it. He’s too rich and has too much clout for NCSU to push around.

  11. TomCat 11/27/2006 at 10:42 PM #

    Need to dig a little further on Paul Johnson…. His Navy Academy team is currently under a cloud of scandal for steriod use and failure to appropriately supply blood samples to the NCAA. This is an unfolding story which needs to be monitored. In terms of Holtz, this guy took this ECU team from the gutter of NCAA football with no end in sight- in two years to a hair’s breath from their conference championship game, bowl bid and convincing win at NCSU. Being a head coach and making your own way at UCONN & ECU- isn’t the same as having to operate under the heavy hand of Lou Holtz & perennial loser environment of USC. Minus the two big years under Holtz – USC hasn’t done anything, squat…. ever…. with all their resources. That being said- Holtz is in a good situation at Greenville- he has assembled a great staff & CUSA is a perfect environment (see Boise State in the west) to assemble a stellar record against weak competition on a week-to-week basis before vaulting to a top job.

  12. chilly water 11/27/2006 at 10:46 PM #

    well shat!

  13. Mike 11/27/2006 at 10:55 PM #

    Cowher as head coach – I have been skeptical but starting to think maybe. Logan as OC – that will offset BC’s D mind. Great combo.

  14. choppack1 11/27/2006 at 11:25 PM #

    TomCat – I knew there was something out there, but I wasn’t aware that he or anyone from his staff was in hot water.

  15. jwrenn29 11/27/2006 at 11:55 PM #

    Mike, scroll up and go to the 850 blog: Cowher is likely to turn down the job publicly tomorrow morning per Adam Gold.

  16. beowolf 11/28/2006 at 12:18 AM #

    Just saw that myself. Oh well. See what I said above about revealed preference.

  17. bb1983 11/28/2006 at 12:58 AM #

    talk about 850 the buzz-kill.

  18. bTHEredterror 11/28/2006 at 1:22 AM #

    I would prefer Johnson or Leavitt as program builders, Chizik and Pelini are both intriguing as defensive gurus, and Chow presents some offensive panache. I couldn’t believe anything as great as landing Bill Cowher would ever happen to us, and it seems my pessimism is rewarded. But I have a thought. Is Georger OLleary off limits? Yeah he had the fake degree thing, but he didn’t have a lot of off field issues at GT and managed to win a 1/2 Nat’l Champ’ship. One thing is certain IMO, if we land any of these coaches, we have upgraded the position.

  19. cornellpackfan 11/28/2006 at 1:49 AM #

    How about Mac McWhorter? For the ill-informed he is the associate head coach at U of Texas. He has coached with Bill Curry, George O’Leary, and now Mack Brown. He is a great recruiter, among the best in the nation at this aspect of coaching. He is a charismatic guy that could really embrace NCSU. McWhorter has coached all over the south and has tremendous ties in georgia. He is a tremendous offensive line developer with an offensive mind. We need another coach with the ability to recruit well. Amato allowed us to gain a pipeline in florida. McWhorter with the right assistants could maintain the florida connections, while also opening tremendous connections in georgia. We cannot overlook the ability of the coach to recruit assistants and players. What we liked about Amato initially was the great assistants he got. He got a top notch staff and they helped him reel in recruits. A well connected assistant like a Mac McWhorter who is a coordinator or assistant head coach while also being among the best recruiters in the nation is what NCSU needs.

  20. jwrenn29 11/28/2006 at 8:08 AM #

    Apparently one of the biggest good things that can come out of this hire: good Asst. Coaches will check out our place because they will have the opportunity to NOT be micromanaged (assuming we check the HC candidate out and make sure he’s not a micromanager). Heck, maybe Trestman, with his 2 years left on his contract (SFN: will we keep him or buy him out?) will be able to open up his playbook. Not that I want him here, but heck I guess we’ve never seen an OC that wasn’t micromanaged. Who knows?

  21. pack7483 11/28/2006 at 8:47 AM #

    When does BC do his Tuesday press conference?

  22. RedTerror29 11/28/2006 at 8:49 AM #

    Article on the steroid scandal at Navy – http://www.hometownannapolis.com/cgi-bin/read/2006/11_19-90/NAS

    Seems to be somewhat of a non-issue. I wouldn’t exactly say they have a “cloud of scandal” hanging over their program.

  23. Gene 11/28/2006 at 2:46 PM #

    Just some food for thought about another successful NFL coach voluntarily going to the college ranks:

    Dave Glen brought out an interesting point on his blog recently. Bill Walsh, the creator of the West Coast offense, winner of three Super Bowls with the San Francisco 49er’s, and NFL Hall of Fame head coach went back to coaching at Stanford, where he coached in the late 1970’s after retiring from the NFL. Walsh went 17-17-1 in three seasons. Went 10-3 his first year and had two back to back losing seasons, and than resigned.

    As much as we all want to believe hiring Cowher = instant and eventual sustained success, there’s no guarantee this will happen.

  24. E-RO 11/28/2006 at 4:53 PM #

    What do you think about Cowher as an AD? I’ve heard a lot of him not wanting to coach anymore. Of course I don’t know Cowher personally, but I like the idea of him being AD over IDB.

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