(12) NC STATE vs (5) SAINT LOUIS Preview

Time: 7:20 pm
Location: Orlando, FL
TV: TNT
Announcers: Brian Anderson, Dan Bonner and Kristine Leahy

The Pack is in the Round of 64 after defeating the Xavier Musketeers 74-59 in the First Four match in Dayton, OH. The Wolfpack put together one of their best all-around performances this season by getting almost a complete team effort in multiple facets on both ends of the court. Sure the Pack has been more efficient on offense this season but increasing their performance on defense just a little, it more than made up for any drop off in offensive efficiency. Anthony Barber was sick and it effected his time on the court and Warren was saddled with two quick fouls at the beginning of the game which slowed him down but everyone stepped up until he was able to find his grove. With the win the Pack has moved on to Orlando, FL to face the Saint Louis Billikens.

Getting to know them

The Billikens have had a tremendous year in the A-10, jumping out to a 25-2 (12-0) record, with the 2 losses being a 63-57 loss to Wisconsin on a neutral court and a 70-65 loss to undefeated Wichita State at home. Then something happened, St. Louis lost at home to lowly Duquesne and stumbled the rest of the way to a 26-6 (13-3) record, including a first round exit in the A-10 tournament to St. Bonaventure. St. Louis starts 5 seniors, who are in their third NCAAT but doesn’t go very deep into their bench very often. They aren’t a very tall team either, outside of a couple of 6-11 guys, they top out at 6-6.

The Billikens strength is in their defense. It’s not shutdown, low scoring type of defense, more of a make you work extra hard for your points, make you less efficient to compensate for their own low offensive efficiency. Little things like limiting the three, good defensive rebounding to prevent second chance points, forcing turnovers, and not sending the opposition to the line much.

Probable Starters
#5 Jordair Jet (6-1 215 SR) Guard – Jett has an amazing Assist Rate of 34.4%, which ranks #23 in the nation but with having the ball so much means he also has a lot of opportunities to turn the ball over, TORate 20.2%. Jett doesn’t shoot the three, only have 34 3fga this season but he does have a lot of two’s, eFG 50%, and draws a lot of fouls, 5.8 per 40, so he’s likely driving a lot to the basket. Oh yeah and he’s the A-10 Player of the Year, so he’s got that going for him.

#11 Mike McCall (6-0 180 SR) Guard – McCall is the shooting guard and he’s been pretty good this year, 109 ORtg, shoots as many 3’s as 2’s, an eFG 51%, and good at FT’s, though he doesn’t get to the line much. Can’t leave him alone on the perimeter.

#30 Jake Barnett (6-5 205 SR) Forward – Barnett is the least effective scoring option of the starters. He only has a 90 ORtg, barely shooting any 2’s, mainly living on the perimeter jacking 3’s and not that great at 30%. He’s okay at defensive rebounding 12.2% but has a tendancy to turn the ball over at 19% TORate.

#21 Dwayne Evans (6-6 230 SR) Forward – Evan has okay numbers, a 103 ORtg, 50% eFG (doesn’t shoot the 3), but is good at rebounding 8% OR and 17% DR, and drawing fouls to get to the line where he shoots 74%.

#51 Rob Loe (6-11 245 SR) Center – Loe is the match up nightmare for the Pack, he’s taken 123 2FGA (.593) and 115 3FGA (.296). Because he shoots so many 3’s his Offensive Rebounding isn’t that good but he makes up for it on defense where he’s grabbing 16% DR and Blocks 4.7% of shots (#238 nationally). This is where I think we need Washington guarding him on the perimeter and switching up when he goes inside. Did I forget to mention Loe is from New Zealand? Battle of the Bigs from Down Under.

Bench
#2 Austin McBroom (5-9 165 SO), #54 John Manning (6-11 240 JR), #1 Grandy Glaze (6-6 235 JR)

Glaze was getting a decent amount of playing time off the bench for most of the season but during their losing streak his time has been almost nonexistent. He’s a good rebounder and only plays around a the basket but turns the ball over quite a lot. McBroom has seen his minutes increase of late though that hasn’t meant he’s playing great, in fact it’s either good or awful. McBroom shoots a lot of 3’s, understandable for his size, and is their best long distance shooter (.355) along with McCall. Expect to see Manning more then he usually plays simply because the Pack has the size, just don’t expect a lot out of him.

Who has the Advantage?

NOTE: This is a look at what both teams have done over the course of the season, not how they have been playing for the past few weeks. Trust me I’d love to restrict it to just the last 10 games but that would require me to do that myself which I simply don’t have the time, and I still wouldn’t know where they’d rank nationally.

This is a matchup of State’s best against St. Louis’ best and the Billikens defense has been better then the Pack’s offense. One thing I noticed in the Xavier game, who was another team that was good at defensive rebounding, was the Musketeers limited State to only 20% Offensive Rebounding which is about 15% below their season average.

Now we have the matchup of facepalms vs facepalms. It’s best to avert your eyes when the ball moves to this end of the court. Hipster Cat needs to drop the pigtails and return to his hip ways.

Predictions

KenPom likes Saint Louis by 2 points.
Sagarin likes Saint Louis by 3.3 points.
Vegas opened up with Saint Louis -2.5.

Its extremely difficult to know what’s going to happen. Will both teams continue how they’ve been playing over the last month? Or will one or both revert to their old ways? It’s difficult to tell. One thing the Billikens have an advantage in is not only a 5 starting seniors but multiple years of NCAAT experience. The Pack has the advantage of already playing a game and getting the first half jitters out of the way. The Billikens have TONS of bulletin board material since everyone is on the Pack bandwagon and predicting an upset.

Just as everyone will wear the same clothes that they had on Tuesday, watch the game from the same spot, drink the same drinks, I’m going to continue my official pick be against the Pack. I refuse to be the bringer of bad mojo to this team. So I say St. Louis by 1.

And who knows, maybe the Pack’s new good luck charm and several posters new crush, Kristine Leahy, will stick with the Pack for as long as they are in the tournament.

HEADLINES

This is a great article by Giglio, way too much to highlight.

Joe Giglio (N&O)
Gottfried stays positive, pushes right buttons for Wolfpack’s NCAA success

Ryan Tice (TheWolfpacker.com)
In-depth look at Saint Louis

TheWolfpacker.com
Q&A: Saint Louis looking forward to facing Pack

Russ Wood (TheWolfpacker.com)
Audio: Mark Gottfried, players breaks down SLU

Fred Goodall (AP)
NC State-Saint Louis Preview

PackPride.com
Previewing Saint Louis

Tom Timmermann (Stltoday.com)
Trending down, Billikens are undaunted

Bernie Miklasz (stltoday.com)
It’s up to the ‘Sons of Majerus’

Tom Timmermann (Stltoday.com)
Loe has come a long way with SLU

Tom Timmermann (Stltoday.com)
N.C. State takes whirlwind path to play SLU

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Class of '98, Mechanical Engineer, State fan since arriving on campus and it's been a painful ride ever since. I live by the Law of NC State Fandom, "For every Elation there is an equal and opposite Frustration."

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  • #48281
    packalum44
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    Maybe Gavin Grant infiltrated their team and banged their star players girlfriend. That usually is a volatile chemistry experiment right there.

    #48282
    JeremyH
    Participant

    whatever the plan is, its to frustrate him and/or get him off the floor. I imagine they will do some two man zone or try multiple people on him, etc., anything to knock him off balance. little do they know she shoots on one foot quite often.. : )

    #48283
    JeremyH
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    Pitt is killing Colorado right now

    #48284
    JeremyH
    Participant

    not that it matters anymore, but the Pitt and Syracuse games should boost our RPI : D

    #48285
    redcanine
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    Those Oregon cheerleaders always make my pants feel tighter.

    #48286
    WolfWiz11
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    Colorado looks like a CBI team

    #48287
    Whiteshoes67
    Participant

    “When we hongry, we eat.”

    #48290
    Whiteshoes67
    Participant

    Since Big V has gone to the fauxhawk, he plays a little meaner. I’ve loved seeing a little toughness from the bigs recently. Thought Dez brought that attitude early in the season, but it helps to have some guys out there who play with some tude’

    #48291
    JeremyH
    Participant

    hair change usually part of an attitude change, just sayin’

    #48292
    JeremyH
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    redcanine, and the Byu cheerleaders as well?

    #48293
    JeremyH
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    i read an article that said about Indiana not making the NIT about being invited to the CBI “We’re Indiana, we don’t play in the CBI”.

    #48294
    JeremyH
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    redcanine, I saw what you were referring to, and I have to say “meh”. Ms. Wolf is better.

    #48296
    wufpup76
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    Warren doesn’t typically force shots, and he cleans up on the offensive glass … I’m interested to see what this ‘plan’ is. ‘Stop’ and ‘Warren’ don’t really go together.

    Big guys are going to be huge tonight. Hoping for a lot from our quadruplet (Vberg, Anya, Freeman, Washington) … Think we’re gonna need some Washington + Freeman buckets.

    #48297
    redcanine
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    Too much fur under the tail for my liking.

    #48299
    bill.onthebeach
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    ^^Yep… It’s damn hard to lose when your BIGS play well… I don’t care who else is on the floor…

    And from what’s been discussed … it seems clear that the big difference in SLU first 25 games and the last five is their center’s Loe’s disappearance from under the basket and from the stat sheet…

    If there’s one guy on their Team who really wants a good game tonight… he’s that guy…
    Now the SLU Coach knows this better than we do… and he’s gonna give his Big Guy (who’s a Senior) every opportunity to do just that…

    That’s why we need to go right at Loe early and often and make sure he gets the message… “Tonight ain’t going to be your night”…

    After that …. then take care of the rest of the SLU bunch.

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    The “Stop CUZ” game plan is so (pick any ‘negative’ word you like )… because it takes so much to do it… To stop the PACK… just let CUZ get his twenty and stop everybody else. The problem is that it could be any of six or seven guys… and by the time the other Coach/Team figures out who to stop and gets them stopped…. there’s only eight minutes left in the game…

    At that point… it’s anybody’s ballgame… unless they got a nice run somewhere or we went four minutes without a basket or the Zebras have blown forty whistles…

    So watch for this… Coaches will be quick on the Timeouts from the bench… Cardinal Tournament Rule #1… do not let the other team score three baskets in a row…

    … and “Nine” is the magic number… with a nine point lead… now you can do some things you couldn’t do in a real close game like press, go Zone for a couple of possessions, or throw the Alley Opp pass for the dunk, and make your opponent think and put them further back on their heels…

    #NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!
    #48300
    wufpup76
    Keymaster

    I’d love to see some zone press tonight, especially if we start experiencing any trouble.

    #48303
    Pack85EE
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    “The “Stop CUZ” game plan is so (pick any word you like )… because it takes so much to do it… To stop the PACK… just let CUZ get his twenty and stop everybody else.”

    I thought the “Stop CUZ” game was 20. Focus on everybody else and defend CUZ 1 on 1, he’ll get 40.

    #48304
    packalum44
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    Anyone else scared Archie makes a deep run and gets hired away to a big program and we watch yet another fish get away while we salivate over our rich mans Sendek because he made the dance with a team that shoulda been a walk-in.

    #48305
    bill.onthebeach
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    ^EE… that exactly the “problem” from a mathematical standpoint…

    Let’s say… WE have to get 65 and hold the other team to less than 65 to win….

    65 – CUZ = everybody else
    everybody else = any 2 guys with 10 -12 – 14 and any other four guys with 4 – 6 – 8

    It’s one of those ‘damned if you do and damned if you don’t’ kind of things…

    And only the top ten teams… got the horses to try to do this… the way the rest of our kids have played for the last month…

    Just ask the Basketsaurus Norte — Boeheim… he knows and he didn’t flunk math…

    The Team that has beat NCSTATE more than any other team this season has been NCSTATE…

    #NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!
    #48307
    Rick
    Keymaster

    Warren doesn’t typically force shots, and he cleans up on the offensive glass … I’m interested to see what this ‘plan’ is. ‘Stop’ and ‘Warren’ don’t really go together.

    Big guys are going to be huge tonight. Hoping for a lot from our quadruplet (Vberg, Anya, Freeman, Washington) … Think we’re gonna need some Washington + Freeman buckets.

    Better teams than SLU have tried to stop him and not suceeded. Let them worry about him and the rest of the team will bum rush them.

    #48309
    Pack85EE
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    Packalum44, if you are calling Gott a rich man’s Sendek and wanting Archie Miller I think you are nuts. I want nothing to do with anything Sendek and that includes Archie Miller. I loved the kid when he played but if his game is anything like Sendeks (maybe it’s not and I’m full of it) I don’t want it. 10 years of watching paint dry was enough. Give me Gott’s up tempo. And I love his recruits. And if you don’t think he did a great job with this year’s team, I guess we just don’t see the court the same.

    #48310
    Rick
    Keymaster

    Anyone else scared Archie makes a deep run and gets hired away to a big program and we watch yet another fish get away while we salivate over our rich mans Sendek because he made the dance with a team that shoulda been a walk-in.

    I have a feeling h is the next big coach and we are going to miss him.
    Sigh

    #48311
    bill.onthebeach
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    I like Archie… everybody in Red & White does…
    But… we GOTT to dance with the ONE who brung us…

    We’ll get Archie when the time is right for both parties…

    #NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!
    #48313
    Wolfanatic
    Participant

    Harvard sends Cincy packing 61-57!

    #48314
    Wulfpack
    Participant

    Archie, like Sean, like pops, will be an excellent coach. I give him at most 2 more years at Dayton before that big gig. Timing probably isn’t right for us.

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