Coping With Another Hole Title (Updated 9am Tuesday)

“Our fans are comparing ourselves to Duke and North Carolina. Every program in the country doesn’t do well when you’re compared with those two on a day-to-day basis. I understand that our fans want to be able to compete with them; we all do. But you can be real good on a daily basis and not be better than those two programs.”

Don’t ignore yesterday’s look-in at all sports…but, this morning we have to discuss a little basketball.

Tuesday Update
When NC State gave up basketball in 1990 – the Wolfpack held two National Championships; UNC-CH held two, and Duke held none.

When Lee Fowler was hired as Athletics Director a decade ago – the Wolfpack held two National Championships, UNC-CH held three, and Duke held two.

After ten years of (lack of leadership) from Lee “I know basketball and I have a contract” Fowler – the Wolfpack STILL holds two National Championships, UNC-CH now has five, and Duke now has three.

Great work managing that program, Lee! I could only imagine where we would be if you didn’t ‘know basketball’!

We wrote this highly-trafficked entry when the Tarheels won their National Championship in 2005. We implore you to click on it and give it a read (the charts no longer work) as we see no reason to bust our ass to update it this morning since it still couldn’t be more relevant this morning. The following is a taste:

Good morning, sleepy head!!!

Did you sleep well? Heck, did you sleep at all? Regardless of if you tossed and turned all night, you have awoken to a New World Order!!! Sounds kind of ominous, doesn’t it? No matter, it is true –

You now live in an environment and under a set of circumstances that have LITERALLY NEVER existed as they do today — April 5, 2005. April 7, 2009.

For many, this N.W.O. is nothing that you haven’t felt inside or intuitively known since…oh….about 1995 or so. But, having ‘felt’ it for a decade still may not compensate or serve to ease many Wolfpackers pain this morning. You went to bed last night without letting all of the ramifications of your arch-rival’s newly minted National Championship sink into your system, and you have woken this morning to a landscape that has never existed in the history of NC State’s Basketball program.

As of THIS MORNING, NC State is further behind UNC-CH in National Basketball Titles (and ACC Titles) than we have been at any point in the entire history of college basketball. Additionally, there has never been a day on this earth where BOTH Carolina and Duke held this lead in ACC and National Championships over NC State.

Think about that for a moment…especially you jackasses that constantly degrade our tradition because you can’t grasp its magnitude…and you Fowlerites and Kennellites who openly proclaim that NC State athletics should not strive to contend for Championships or measure to the standards of Carolina and Duke. (I wish that someone would have told us this was NC State’s “not goal” [since we don’t have any goals or measurements] BEFORE we were solicited to pony-up tens of thousands of dollars just to sit in dead arena and watch the college version of the Washington Generals go out and tackle one of the nations worst non-conference schedules on an annual basis.)

[snip]

Lee Fowler is our Athletics Director, and as of THIS MORNING, the Athletics Department that he leads has NEVER, EVER been further behind Carolina’s and Duke’s in championships.

Surely you don’t wonder why this could be the case.

BJD on Monday night
As I have watched UNC play defense all tournament long and dispatch opponents with shocking ease, I have made my piece with Roy Boy getting his second ring. I sure as hell don’t like it, but I can accept it. Suggested coping methods (put yours in the comments):

1) Grudgingly admit that UNC is a worthy champion. Other than Hansbrough’s whiny antics, I have no real disgust for any of their players. They play hard, play together, and keep up an entertaining pace. Contrast that to Deano’s peak years.

2) It will really piss off Coach K. Roy’s run in Chapel Hill is making K so jealous that I believe he would blow Dwon Clifton on TV to sign John Wall. Sorry for the nightmare fuel. As queasy as we will be around 11:28 pm, you can take comfort that at least one man will be even more inconsolable.

3) Feel good for the nice Hole fans that you know. As you know, Hole fans are more prevalent than flies on dogshit in mid-August. Because the sheer numbers are so high, you have to know at least a few that you don’t want to punch. If you’re local, it’s possible a subset of those fans (well, probably all of them) actually went to school there. If you live in Boston, these are probably the same people who pretend that they liked the Patriots before they were good (and strangely don’t know who Steve Grogan is).

That’s all I have. Thank God it will be all over soon, save for the gayest riot you’ve ever seen.

About BJD95

1995 NC State graduate, sufferer of Les and MOC during my entire student tenure. An equal-opportunity objective critic and analyst of Wolfpack sports.

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229 Responses to Coping With Another Hole Title (Updated 9am Tuesday)

  1. BJD95 04/06/2009 at 8:57 PM #

    How is he still alive? I saw The Wrestler, those guys aint built for longevity.

  2. CStanley 04/06/2009 at 9:01 PM #

    He actually looked pretty good. Lot of gray hair and a little more gut than 1987, but not too bad. He can actually still move around the ring. Don’t think he was the pill poppin, roid freak that some of the others were, so his body has probably held up better.

  3. MrPlywood 04/06/2009 at 9:04 PM #

    The Masters starts on Thursday.

  4. CStanley 04/06/2009 at 9:04 PM #

    Holy shit back to 20!

  5. CStanley 04/06/2009 at 9:05 PM #

    Magic just said “God damn man”.

    I agree Magic. I agree.

  6. Sweet jumper 04/06/2009 at 9:05 PM #

    Roy finally convinced this team to play defense, and they have played great defense during the NCAA tourney. Soft defense has always been UNX’s weakness; now this team has no weakness. I agree that Roy will be greater than Deano when he retires.
    Alert the Burn Unit at UNX Hospital–the brillant students will soon be firejumping on Franklin Street.

  7. CStanley 04/06/2009 at 9:07 PM #

    Yep, great defense.

    That, and shooting about 70% every game.

  8. CStanley 04/06/2009 at 9:07 PM #

    Kellogg just mentioned Larry Drew III.

    WTF? Drew already got a kid out there?

  9. MrPlywood 04/06/2009 at 9:08 PM #

    Will this bump up State’s RPI?

  10. BJD95 04/06/2009 at 9:09 PM #

    I totally didn’t know CBS televised The Masters. I’m glad they finally said something.

  11. Wolfman 9806 04/06/2009 at 9:11 PM #

    Holy Shit. The rest of our lives, NC State will never field a basketball team as good as this UNC one. Living in NC is really going to suck if Davis gets their football team rolling.

  12. CStanley 04/06/2009 at 9:13 PM #

    For the record, UNLV was only up 12 on Duke in 1990.

    UNC may win by 50.

  13. Sweet jumper 04/06/2009 at 9:13 PM #

    Maybe Roy will drop another F-bomb in the post-game interview,i.e. “That was a great f*&%ing game!”

  14. CStanley 04/06/2009 at 9:17 PM #

    If I were Izzo, I’d get shit faced before I came back out of that locker room.

  15. Wulfpack 04/06/2009 at 9:17 PM #

    Got to hand it to the Heels. They are physically dominating what I thought was a very tough MSU team. MSU has NO answer for the Heels down low. I firmly believe that Davis is going to be a Hall of Famer at the next level. He’s the best player on the floor.

    All the talking heads were guaranteeing MSU wouldn’t lose by 35 this time around. They were right — they just might lose by 40.

    And yea, I agree Roy is on pace to win about 4 of these suckers.

  16. LKNpackfan 04/06/2009 at 9:19 PM #

    This UNC team could make the NBA playoffs, easily.

  17. McLovin 04/06/2009 at 9:20 PM #

    I don’t even care that UNC is winning this game. They are a phenomenal basketball team. I just DESPISE the “fans” that are gonna talk trash and still won’t be able to tell me half the players’ names after this game.

  18. old13 04/06/2009 at 9:21 PM #

    The most lop-sided stat at the half is that UNC has 9 more points from the FT line. FGs are 52% v 44%. Rebounding is about equal. Both hit 4 3-pointers.

  19. choppack1 04/06/2009 at 9:21 PM #

    The heels are doing us a favor. I just may be in bed by 10:45 tonight.

    They’ve put on a display – a durn clinic. There goes that utterly stupid “Roy has never won it w/ his own guys argument.”

  20. CStanley 04/06/2009 at 9:21 PM #

    Screw it, I’m going to bed.

  21. rdjennin 04/06/2009 at 9:22 PM #

    They, as of right now, are better than us at every sport, the only thing we can hang our hat on is Russell Wilson, and who knows what next football season will bring. It may not be as good as we hope it will be.

    It is becoming harder and harder to wear a NC State hat in public.

    I just want to stop sucking, and being an embarrassment to athletics in general.

    This sucks.

  22. MrPlywood 04/06/2009 at 9:22 PM #

    I’m pretty sure that Jim Rome said MSU would win. Oops.

  23. Wulfpack 04/06/2009 at 9:25 PM #

    “Roy doesn’t care enough to about the ACC Tourney to win it.” Check.

    “Roy can never win the big game.” Check.

    “Roy can’t win with his own players.” Check.

    These are the stupidest arguments I’ve heard, most coming from UNC fans. They’ll never admit it now but some of the crap spewed from their mouths the past couple of years is sickening. If they only knew how good they had it…

  24. LKNpackfan 04/06/2009 at 9:25 PM #

    How did Magic’s HIV go away?

  25. Wolf Dog 04/06/2009 at 9:26 PM #

    I have not understood why more teams don’t copy Roy’s fast break offense. They score and score and score.

    Roy’s teams play interior defense and turns opposing teams into perimeter shooters. He doesn’t care it they give up a few threes, he knows the more they pass that ball around the more likely a turnover will occur.

    Go Mich. State but looks like it is over. Would make my day if the greatest comeback in championship history took place. Go to Hell Carolina!

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