Holland on Money Matters

I wish this one could be bronzed for the ages.

Terry Holland in October 27, 2008’s The Sporting News

The administration, with $100 million or more recently invested in facilities and a $50 million annual budget, cannot afford to keep a coach who is not producing a return on that investment. If donors and season-ticket purchasers vote with their wallet, so what if the buyout is 10 percent or more of the annual budget? Even at $10 million, borrow it and pay it off over 10 years and you are still better off than risking a possible 5 percent reduction in revenue by keeping an unpopular coach.

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24 Responses to Holland on Money Matters

  1. wufpup76 11/26/2008 at 12:39 PM #

    Their AD – very smart and practical, proactive and thinking towards the future … Our Ad ???

    I’ll let the rest of you finish that sentence …

  2. burnbarn 11/26/2008 at 12:39 PM #

    I guess the only difference here is the gate will not fall off 5%. We fill the seats regardless of the quality of the opponent.

  3. GAWolf 11/26/2008 at 12:41 PM #

    Call that what you will… “being rational,” “a cost/benefit analysis,” “being fiscally responsible,” “accountability,” etc…

    None of those concepts are welcomed here. This has no relevance to NC State athletics. Please delete this from the lunatic fringe’s internets as it carries with it: logic.

  4. Girlfriend in a Coma 11/26/2008 at 12:43 PM #

    We don’t vote with our wallets.

  5. Cosmo96 11/26/2008 at 12:44 PM #

    All this is just fluff. What I really want to know is, what are Holland’s opinions on ‘cougars’? I mean, he is an AD, right? Shouldn’t those kinds of vital issues occupy most of his time? Instead, he’s out there talking about inconsequential matters like finances and coach retention.

  6. Sweet jumper 11/26/2008 at 12:47 PM #

    Holland won me over when he said that he named his dog Dean because he whined all the time.

  7. TOBtime 11/26/2008 at 12:51 PM #

    Wow. How in heavens name is this guy sitting in Greeneville and not Raleigh?

    ^Sweet jumper, that is too funny!

  8. burnbarn 11/26/2008 at 12:57 PM #

    I meant to say the quality of our team..

  9. Sweet jumper 11/26/2008 at 1:05 PM #

    Holland has done a very good job as AD at Davidson, UVA and now ECU. He is well respected nationally. He also knows bball and was a very good coach at Davidson and UVA–in other words, he really does know basketball, unlike Jed. He would be a nice fit as AD at State if only the position was open or if the trustees had the stones to take care of business regarding Jed.

  10. old13 11/26/2008 at 1:18 PM #

    I haven’t seen stone one in the NCSU administration since MAF left. Until the good-ol’-boys go, mediocrity/status quo is the only game in town!

  11. Alpha Wolf 11/26/2008 at 2:07 PM #

    ^ Your Lunatic Fringe card (only one of fifty!) is in the mail, sir.

    I wish I could tell you it is an exclusive club, but there are thousands of us that belong to the special group of fifty malcontents.

  12. El Scrotcho 11/26/2008 at 4:05 PM #

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  13. El Scrotcho 11/26/2008 at 4:08 PM #

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  14. redfred2 11/26/2008 at 5:31 PM #

    Scrotcho, I may be wrong, but is programming really your “bag”?

    As far as Terry Holland goes, he’s an example of an AD that a university would hire when they want to improve. Since no one in Raleigh is required to do that, I fail to see any relevance in this thread at all.

  15. Ismael 11/26/2008 at 5:42 PM #

    old13 – and what’s sad is that MAF really wasn’t born with Cajones to begin with

  16. redfred2 11/26/2008 at 6:18 PM #

    I wonder how it feels to have an AD who is intelligent enough to know when to cut ties? One who will always be there to guide and assist his employees when they are showing him that they want exactly what he wants? And one who actually attaches the word “EXPECT” to athletics, at least equally as much as he implies it in regards to public perception and outward appearances?


  17. redfred2 11/26/2008 at 6:33 PM #

    “One who will always be there to guide and assist his employees when they are showing him that they want exactly what he wants?”

    Whoops, that one may actually be a reality at NC State already, if you consider the parallels between the AD and the SID.

  18. Alpha Wolf 11/26/2008 at 10:36 PM #

    Scrotcho — with all due respect, the configuration file to the web server determines the destination directiory in the server and not the IP settings. Further, comment moderation is controlled within WordPress and has nothing to do with DNS whatsoever.

  19. highstick 11/26/2008 at 10:49 PM #

    Glad you guys like Terry. Met him several years ago at Davidson and he’s a class act! I wish we had him also!

  20. redfred2 11/27/2008 at 10:51 AM #

    I’ve met Terry Holland also, and he is a great guy. But since, around here anyway, adorning someone with the label of “class act”, seems to carry with it the thoughts of milk toast, and someone who is eternally PC to a fault, I don’t think I’d unload that label on Mr. Terry Holland. It doesn’t fit him anyway, he gets things done without being O-V-E-R-L-Y concerned about what others may think of him. Plus, he has a backbone.

  21. redfred2 11/27/2008 at 11:45 AM #

    ^In other words, Holland has an agenda that comes from within, and yet he is still fully capable of continuing to function in an environment where there is inevitable criticism. It’s just part of the job, he understands that, and he doesn’t use other universities as an excuse to just continue down the same path to no where. Nor would he allow his coaches to use that worn out excuse either.

    That is the difference between the desire to just ‘appear’, versus the inner drive and real desire to BECOME.

  22. highstick 11/27/2008 at 1:29 PM #

    You mean “to be rather than to seem”?

    Thought you were going fishing today?

  23. WolftownVA81 11/27/2008 at 6:19 PM #

    I also always liked Terry Holland. He would be a good fit in Raleigh. How much would it take to buy out Jed? Surely he has a price. If anyone lives near lake Gaston, please stop by to find out the amount and where to start mailing the checks.

  24. redfred2 11/27/2008 at 10:17 PM #

    Highstick, I fished early morning, came home, and then went back and fished until about 4:30 in the afternoon before the big feast began. Not one fish. No one else caught any either, so I don’t feel quite as bad. I’m mean, I knew something wasn’t quite right, it couldn’t have been anything I was doing. 😉

    Oh well, it couldn’t have been nicer day to be out there trying, weather-wise anyway. I’ll hit it hard again tommorrow morning.

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