Getting Ready for the Goats – Can Lightning Strike Twice? (11:00 Update)

Especially since our shocking win in Raleigh, I have asked some of my more rational Hole fan friends about some of Roy’s curious tendencies. No, nothing about banging farm animals, but his strange strategy. You know, playing Wes Miller and/or Bobby Frasor down the stretch of close games – sometimes ahead of arguably his best player (Ty Lawson). Or his stubborn insistence that he shouldn’t press during road games except at the end of the game or trailing by a huge margin.

They have no explanation, and also cite the train wreck nature of UNC’s half-court offense. That shouldn’t be with the unstoppable Brandon Wright eligible to play – but it often is. So…the question looms. Can lightning strike twice? Hell, if a mensch (hat tip to Noah) like Les Robinson can beat Dean twice in one season, why can’t Lowe win two against Roy, despite being heavily outgunned?

Then reality sets in, and I start to dread 9:00. Roy doesn’t have any rules against pressing at home. I can still remember what GT’s press did to us, and their athletes are nowhere near as skilled as UNC’s. One of Roy’s redeeming qualities is his hatred of NC State (ask someone with access to Rams’ Club events), which is vastly preferable to the more common condescending nonchalance. However, that works against us here. Roy couldn’t understand his team playing with less passion last time out. How can those whippersnappers not get up for NC State? I am certain Roy has pounded that lesson home all week.

What can we do? Somehow convince UNC’s players that we’re really Virginia Tech. Or convince our players that UNC is really Virginia Tech. Both, maybe? In all seriousness, we at least have that scintilla of hope. Thanks, Coach Lowe. I can’t really dread 9:00, no matter what my brain says. I want to watch, and I’ll be proud of where we’re headed regardless of the final score. I enjoy the thought of Brandon Wright going pro, and Hansbrough trying to deal with McCauley and Hickson pretty much by himself, while Costner pops 3s when the UNC defense sags to help out.

Update: Here’s a hilarious, non-photoshopped picture of weasel-in-chief Dick Baddour, for your viewing/mocking pleasure. Hat tip to 850 The Buzz’ Joe Ovies.

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1995 NC State graduate, sufferer of Les and MOC during my entire student tenure. An equal-opportunity objective critic and analyst of Wolfpack sports.

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104 Responses to Getting Ready for the Goats – Can Lightning Strike Twice? (11:00 Update)

  1. NCSUbarman 02/21/2007 at 1:09 AM #

    Apparently, we have no lack of confidence against the Heels. After the game against Va Tech, the players and coaches were both sayin “now bring the Heels on” in the locker room after the game. If nothing else I think having confidence against a talented rival like UNC is a good thing.

  2. Texpack 02/21/2007 at 6:13 AM #

    This one will be interesting to watch. If we can get off to a fast start, we might get in their heads a bit. I think that is the key to the entire game, the first 8-10 minutes.

  3. SuperStuff 02/21/2007 at 7:08 AM #

    Make baskets and keep them out of the fast break. You’ll notice at times in the game after a made basket Lawson has the green light to take it coast to coast to the rim by himself. Roy allows this to quickly gain back momentum. Shut the one man break and all breaks down to a minimum. With our wins over VT this game is definately more interesting than usual. Go Pack!

  4. Rick 02/21/2007 at 8:08 AM #

    What a change a year makes. I used to dread playing UNC. Eveyone knew we would lose. Now I am to tease my fellow UNC fans. There is very little reason to think we will win this game… Except we have Lowe.

    I think the chances we win this game are very low but it is nice to have hope and a rekindling of the rivalry.

  5. jamieinkorea 02/21/2007 at 8:29 AM #

    Do I hope we win? You bet.

    Do I think we’ll win? Not really.

    That being said, I also thought we had little chance last time! Go Pack!

  6. redfred2 02/21/2007 at 8:36 AM #


    You are so right, we are very young experience wise, and we need to keep our composure and confidence level high early on. This will be Sidney’s first visit to the DD, and I expect to see some major full court pressure thrown at us. How effectively we handle the pressure and the atmosphere early in the game, will be the key to staying competitive and pulling it off AGAIN tonight.

    I have a broom on standby.


  7. RickJ 02/21/2007 at 8:44 AM #

    “I enjoy the thought of Brandon Wright going pro, and Hansbrough trying to deal with McCauley and Hickson pretty much by himself, while Costner pops 3s when the UNC defense sags to help out.”

    If it were only so – I can already hear Roy telling Wright he’ll be the number 1 pick in 2008 if he will let Oden, Durant & Noah clear. The other point about this is Deon Thompson and Alex Stephenson. If you rank the best true freshman inside players in the ACC from top to bottom, Thompson would be #1 and Stephenson would be #2. Just because they only play 5 to 10 minutes a game doesn’t mean they aren’t players. Thompson, in particular, is a highly skilled beast.

  8. foz 02/21/2007 at 8:57 AM #

    “If we can get off to a fast start, we might get in their heads a bit.”

    I agree, hopefully we have been practicing breaking the press. If they press early, getting some easy dunks by breaking it may be the best way to mess with their brains.

  9. redfred2 02/21/2007 at 8:59 AM #

    I’m EXCITED!!! but also remembering that unc is 15 deep, add to that the typical officiating in powder blue heaven, and we’re really out numbered. I don’t really know what to expect, I lean more to the negative, but hell that is an habitual thought pattern that will take us all some time to overcome. I just hope we can play up to our capabilities, or even above, and that these players come out of there with the confidence level that they’ve EARNED thus far this season, still very much intact.

  10. Sam92 02/21/2007 at 9:03 AM #

    a win tonight would be almost a miracle, but not quite — when you beat a team once during the season, a second win is within reach

    do i think we’ll win? no

    but with the two wins over VT and the one win over UNC, i think there’s a chance our guys can win on guts – it’s up to Sid and the team to play above themselves. that’s what it will take, but they’ve done it before this season already.

  11. burnbarn 02/21/2007 at 9:20 AM #

    I agree with Tex, the first 10 mins are going to be important. If we can weather the storm and get some rythym then we might have a chance to win in the last 5 mins. That is all you can ask for in a road ACC game.

    I hope UNC gets no posterizing dunks!

  12. newt 02/21/2007 at 9:29 AM #

    Seems like a lot of pressure is on UNC this time out, to prove that they just didn’t play hard the first game. On the radio, UNC pundits talk about how hard the Heels have practiced this week, as opposed to unmotivated practices before their previous losses.

    Tony Haynes confirmed on 620 this a.m. that we expect them to press a la Georgia Tech and have worked on getting Atsur some help back there so that he doesn’t get too worn down.

  13. redfred2 02/21/2007 at 9:30 AM #

    I’m not expecting anything like it, and nobody should, but if we play like we did against VT (at home in Raleigh) the other night, not only the heWels, but anyone in the nation would have their hands full. Another performance like that would be beyond unbelievable!

  14. BoKnowsNCS71 02/21/2007 at 9:41 AM #

    I’m excited about the game but (as I’ve said before) the personality of this team is like Dr. Jeckyll or Mr. Hyde — and I never know which one is going to show up.

    So will it be Dr. J — smooth shooting, defensive, awe inspiring?


    Mr. H — turnovers, questionable shots, awkward ball transition?

    I’m going with history repeating itself and a Wolfpack victory.

  15. moklett 02/21/2007 at 9:47 AM #

    Did V ever wear the red jacket for big away games? (even in the Dean Dome?)

  16. redfred2 02/21/2007 at 9:52 AM #

    Bo, you are a “glass half FULL” kind of guy. They’re heading into a hornets nest, but I believe in these kids and coaches, and I’m hoping you’re right!!! I’m just happy as a clam to actually be looking FORWARD to this game.

  17. beowolf 02/21/2007 at 9:53 AM #

    If we beat the heels, I will be shocked — as shocked as I was the first time we beat the heels.

  18. gopherfan 02/21/2007 at 9:53 AM #

    Las Vegas doesnt’t think so…the line is 23 points.
    That being said, I’ll take the pack to cover.

  19. gopack968 02/21/2007 at 9:54 AM #

    “… hopefully we have been practicing breaking the press”

    We break the press quite well with Atsur at point. We just can’t do it for 35-40 minutes against a deep team.

    Let’s hope that UNC feels the pressure and collapses like the weasels they are!

    Go Pack!

  20. TNCSU 02/21/2007 at 9:55 AM #

    Speaking of help for Atsur — i.e. the PG position, does anyone have any other information on the ’07 PG from FL that we may be interested in? Primacy posted a very good link on another thread. Looks like a slasher type of PG. Seems like he’d be a good fit.

    For tonight — the big thing to stress is that if they don’t score, they can’t press, so we really need to stress our defense, because that prevents their pressing. When they do press, a couple of break-away dunks will help our cause!

  21. Wolfman300 02/21/2007 at 10:00 AM #

    Just to remind us of what we don’t have to deal with anymore and remind us to appreciate this team even more no matter what happens tonight:

    West Virginia shot 9 of 41 from 3 point range last night and lost by 3. They missed 32 3-pointers. I am so glad those days are behind us and so happy that Sid is leading the Pack with an exciting style of basketball!

  22. packpigskinfan23 02/21/2007 at 10:05 AM #

    adding to TNCSU- if we DO score we will force their horrific half court offense…

  23. packpigskinfan23 02/21/2007 at 10:06 AM #

    my expectations are to come out and play like a team that can win… do I REALLY think we are going to? I am not getting my hopes up… but as long as we dont come out asleep I will be pleased.

  24. PackGirl 02/21/2007 at 10:10 AM #

    If Sid has the chutzpah to wear his magic red jacket in the Dean Dome, I think we have a shot.

  25. redfred2 02/21/2007 at 10:12 AM #


    I haven’t seen or read anything else on that kid either, but from reading primacy’s post and link, it does appear that Monte Towe was the FIRST major to give the kid a serious look. That is a big plus, also the comments in the article did seem to bode well in our favor. All we can do is HOPE that he is good and ready to play, and that he’s wearing a WOLFPACK uniform next season!

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