Amato Off Mandel’s List

In June of 2005, Sports Illustrated‘s Stewart Mandel listed Chuck Amato as the nation’s most over-rated coach. (Link)

In June of 2006, Sports Illustrated‘s Stewart Mandel demoted Chuck Amato and called him the nation’s worst coach.(Link)

This week, Mandel made some revisions to his 2006 list. In a move that Jeff obviously supported in this great entry before the season even began, Mandel now calls UNC-CH’s John Bunting the worst college football coach in America. Calls for Bunting’s job have grown louder and louder in recent weeks.

You can read Mandel’s article by clicking here. The following is the set-up of the piece:

Did you happen to watch last Thursday’s Florida State-N.C. State game? Right after the game, Dr. Jerry Punch asked Chuck Amato — the guy I dubbed No. 1 worst coach over the summer — whether the win would “quiet some of the critics who have been writing all this stuff about you.” Amato, in one of the great responses of all time, said with a straight face, “What critics? … I have no idea what you’re talking about,” and ran off the field. Also, at halftime of that game, Lou Holtz reached a new low in studio analysis when he referred to former Georgia quarterback D.J. Shockley as “J.D. Stokley.” Both events help explain a dream I had when I went to bed that night.

In it, I was in a classroom with the N.C. State football team. I was sitting on the far-left side in one of those awful “chair desks” that you have to squeeze yourself into. An unidentified woman at the front of the room (I don’t think she was a teacher) asked if anyone had “anything to say to Coach Amato,” who was sitting on the opposite side of the room. I turned to him and started politely explaining how the list was compiled, and why he shouldn’t take it personally — only I couldn’t make myself heard over Holtz, who was sitting in one of the rows between us gabbing with the person in front of him. That’s the last thing I remember.

So to clear my conscience, I think I had better revisit — and, in some cases, revise — the list.

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35 Responses to Amato Off Mandel’s List

  1. redfred2 10/12/2006 at 11:38 PM #

    ^Mr Wolfpack4ever, Buddy, I don’t know how you do it, but you light a flame that totally burns my ass with just about every one of your posts these days.

    I do not mean to be disrespectful to you sir, but one last time.

    NUMBER ONE: It’s the fourth game of the season, first ACC conference game of the year, we’re facing #20 and previously unbeaten BC.

    (please note)> A player named Marcus Stone does not set foot on the playing surface.

    NUMBER TWO: It’s the fifth gameof the season, we’re facing an even higher ranked #(? ) FSU at the time.

    (please note)> A player named Marcus Stone does not set foot on the playing surface.

    NUMBER THREE: You SIR, Mr Wolfpack4ever are always preaching about someone paying their paying dues in one breathe, and then about the “family” aspect of Chuck Amato and the Wolfpack in the next breath.

    HERE IS MY ONE POINT: All I ever asked for was a “BACK UP.” Someone to step in when the starter when was struggling. Which “THE STARTER” did very plainly DID NOT in each of the first THREE games. I never asked for “THE STARTER,” Marcus Stone, to be totally relieved of his duties at any time, or as he was in game four, or game five.

    Mr Wolfpack4ever, I ask you, where is your “FAMILY” aspect in those decisions?

    ALL that I ever asked was that any “BACK UP” be at least given an opportunity and try to make a difference when it was apparent that the coaching staff’s chosen “STARTER” was not getting the job done in any game.

    You seem to fine with your boy Stone riding the pine for the rest of the season now. Which is more “family”-like, leaving a guy in to struggle over the course of almost three whole games with no help, totally yanking him for an unproven in the fourth game without any playing time, and again, the same in the fifth…

    …or Mr Wolfpack4ever is it as I have stated, send in a “BACK UP” to help in the first game, send him in again, BUT EARLIER, as a “BACK UP” again in game two, and if it’s helping any EVEN EARLIER in game three?

    Then, in game four, make a decision with those, NOW FOUR, game day results in mind?

    I am behind the coaching staff, always have been, but they did this wrong.
    They squeaked out one win with a struggling and unassisted QB, lost two games with an unassisted QB (except for few of downs in an already decided loss), and then sat their “STARTER” totally down, in place of a totally inexperienced “BACKUP.”

    It worked. But they were LUCKY!!! Man, how they were LUCKY!!!

  2. redfred2 10/12/2006 at 11:42 PM #

    ^Correction to above.

    Which “THE STARTER� did very plainly (((DID))) in each of the first THREE games.

  3. Wolfpack4ever 10/13/2006 at 2:07 AM #

    red, you know what burns my ass? A flame about 3 feet high. I don’t see what it is about my analytical evaluation of the handling of the QB situation that upsets you. I didn’t make the kind of “Mr. Wolfpacker” slaps at you personally you find it necessary to make. Is it that you think you opionion should go unchallenged?

    In your, I don’t know what to call it but, rant, you you seem to think that the only measurement of Amato and Trestman’s management of the team is he didn’t substitute in the first game to “help.” In Philip Rivers loss a couple of weeks ago when he was running a limited play book, the SD didn’t send in a back-up to “help.”

    What you advocate is not bad or wrong, it is just not the only way and does warrant continued crusading to be right about how Amato should have done it differently. As I succinctly pointed out Stone was 8 of 9 on the scoring drive that should by all reason should have won the game. Evans came in and played significant time in the SM game which Joe-flippin- Montana could not have won the way our D played. He did, however, show enough poise to earn the starting position the BC game.

    Apparently it is the thinking of the QB coach that the smart thing to do is let Evans play through out, which I don’t argue with, as it gives all the O the opportunity to get a feel for Evans particular rythm. Not unsurprising to me is Geron James and Evans hooking up as both were 2nd team players who knew each other.

    I don’t know where the hatred you exhibit in you post above comes from but if you wish, I will not comment on you analysis of the job the coaching staff is doing.

  4. Wolfpack4ever 10/13/2006 at 2:18 AM #

    I do want to comment on your speaking about my views of “family.” Family is big for Amato. If you watched Stone and Evans after the BC game, it is clear that “family” is present. Stone would have to be as stupid as you seem to think I am, to not realize he wasn’t getting the job done.

    Playing the starting QB is Amato’s (and many other coaches way). He was consistent with Stone and now Evans. It is not the right way nor is it the wrong way and without access to the coaches meetings, we will never know why they do what they do and think the way they think.

  5. class of 74 10/13/2006 at 6:54 AM #

    I’m sorry but for all of his “measureables and high school hype” Stone was NEVER a Div. I level QB! Yes we won games with him last year, after we decided to make running the ball a priority. In a strictly running game scheme maybe Stone could be a Div. I QB but I’m not completely sure of that either.

    Evans may not look as much like a football player as Stone does but when they hit field and are facing pressure tell me which one looks more in control? The skinny-legged kid or Mr. Muscle? Evans amazes me but at the same time I cringe when Stone drops back to pass. Rivers wasn’t picture perfect but he sure could make the play, Stone, IMHO, doesn’t have that ability. Evans, inspite of his frailty, has that ability to make the play and you want a playmaker touching the ball as often as possible.

    If loyalty to upperclassmen is the reason for his reluctance to make a change, I hope Chuck has finally learned his lesson. Loyalty is a great thing but your first loyalty should be to the team and it’s welfare above all others! If Chuck hasn’t learned this lesson this by now the next time it may cost him more than just a bad season.

  6. Wolfpack4ever 10/13/2006 at 9:14 AM #

    74,

    How you turned the dicussion of did Chuck give up on Stone way too long after it was obvious to redfred into who is the more effective QB, Stone or Evans, is beyond my reasoning capabilities. OR how playing Stone was a loyalty decision is also beyond me. I do appreciate your coherent explaination of redfred’s point of view which was badly needed. Unfortunately you apparently believed what redfred said about my views.

    redfred, You would do fine in politics taking your opponents words and twisting them in order to feed your desparate hunger to be right. Not once did I say authority is always right. I simply made the mistake of questioning the logid of your opinion of what they were doing. Not once did I offer any advice on whether to question anything authority does.

  7. redfred2 10/13/2006 at 9:21 AM #

    Woof,

    As we’ve seen before, every game is crucial. Probably even moreso the lesser the opponent. I don’t want him to hear it, but Chuck’s job is not in limbo at all for next season. There probably will be more than one bump in the road from here on out, but hopefully they’ve learned a valuble lesson here. Right now we’re in position to make some noise this year, if not though, we will be in an even better position next season. Just gotta keep adding on.

  8. Woof Wolf 10/13/2006 at 9:48 AM #

    I know, barring a complete disaster, that Chuck’s job is safe for awhile. And I don’t want him to go. I hope he and the team keep getting better and he is here for a long time.

    Sometimes I just start typing and, unlike anyone else around here, I get carried away. I’m enjoying what I’m saying so much that I don’t pause to consider it might be interpretted by others.

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