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03/10/2018 at 5:33 AM #132663
WolfWiz11
ParticipantSemantics. You’d still be upset if I said we shat the bed. In some ways, saying we “weren’t ready to play” sounds even worse to me. That implies some failure on the part of the coaching staff to get us mentally prepared. Which, I don’t blame KK at all. Guys simply dropped the ball, thought they’d already won by being the fifth seed, probably thinking ahead to Clemson.
It’s funny that you’re questioning others’ fandom on a fan forum. So if someone doesn’t agree with you or uses different terminology to describe what they saw, they’re a bad fan? OK.
I (and anyone else who said they choked) didn’t say it as a good thing. It’s a bad thing they did. It’s frustrating. But hopefully they learned from it the way they did the Ga Tech loss. I don’t think anyone on this team is so sensitive as to let words like “choked” affect them. If they are, then we’re screwed either way.
03/10/2018 at 6:26 AM #132664Wulfpack
ParticipantLunardi has moved us to a 10 seed in the West against the Nevada Wolf Pack with the winner drawing 2 seed Purdue.
03/10/2018 at 2:53 PM #132671Greywolf
ParticipantSemantics. You’d still be upset if I said we shat the bed. In some ways, saying we “weren’t ready to play” sounds even worse to me. That implies some failure on the part of the coaching staff to get us mentally prepared. Which, I don’t blame KK at all. Guys simply dropped the ball, thought they’d already won by being the fifth seed, probably thinking ahead to Clemson.
It’s funny that you’re questioning others’ fandom on a fan forum. So if someone doesn’t agree with you or uses different terminology to describe what they saw, they’re a bad fan? OK.
I (and anyone else who said they choked) didn’t say it as a good thing. It’s a bad thing they did. It’s frustrating. But hopefully they learned from it the way they did the Ga Tech loss. I don’t think anyone on this team is so sensitive as to let words like “choked” affect them. If they are, then we’re screwed either way.
If you think players on this or any team don’t mind be called a choker or have it said they they choked, you don’t know people. The ability to perform or play under pressure separates the winners from the wannabees.
In my time to choke meant that you let the pressure get to you and missed a critical shot due to tension. It wasn’t a general term meaning all the things you say it means.
I wasn’t questioning anyone’s fandom, I was questioning your “big talking,” saying the team choked when you don’t have a clue what choking is.
03/10/2018 at 3:27 PM #132672Fastback68
ParticipantThe template to beating State is to get 2 early fouls on Yurt or Dorn and preferably both so they have to sit out large portions of the first half. It happened in the VT, Gt and B.C. games. It’s to the point where you need to take them out of the game for at least 5 minutes if they pick up foul #1 within the first 5 minutes of the game. Whether those first fouls are legit or not, you can’t get into a position where a jack—— ref can call another foul legit or not. Our players can’t seem to comprehend this concept. Yurt constantly tries to keep missed shots alive by going over the back and Dorn tries to rip the ball away after they have picked up foul #1. They act mystified when the whistle blows a second time. It’s frustrating for everyone involved but you have to play smart. Just remember you can break forearms with 4 legit fouls in the second half before you have to worry about fouling out.
03/10/2018 at 5:42 PM #132674WolfWiz11
ParticipantIn my time to choke meant that you let the pressure get to you and missed a critical shot due to tension. It wasn’t a general term meaning all the things you say it means.
I wasn’t questioning anyone’s fandom, I was questioning your “big talking,” saying the team choked when you don’t have a clue what choking is.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choke_(sports)
I know we aren’t supposed to cite Wikipedia as a credible source, so here’s another:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/670865-power-ranking-the-top-50-worst-chokes-in-sports-history
Note, the examples in the Wikipedia article include the 2016-17 Atlanta Falcons, and the Fab 5 vs UNX Chris Webber debacle.
The difference here, is that I’m not happy to say that we choked on Wednesday. It’s what I saw. I take no glee in pointing out my observation. We were performing well, had a great season by all expectations. Went into the tournament favored to win that first game. And blew it. We got upset. You can say Robinson had a bad game the last time we played them, etc. But on paper, and in reality, we should have won that game and then I could see us losing to Clemson–a much better team than BC.
03/10/2018 at 6:07 PM #132675bill.onthebeach
ParticipantIn some ways, saying we “weren’t ready to play” sounds even worse to me. That implies some failure on the part of the coaching staff to get us mentally prepared.
For the record, at least according to my coaching book….
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Yes…Everybody chokes… and it’s more frequent the ‘first time’…
And most of time, choking starts as a individual thing which may or may not spread to the rest of the team… Choking only happens during the game…“Not Ready To Play” is much more of a “Team” thing… Choking only happens before the game…
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Bet your A##, we’ll be “Ready” for the next game, whenever that is…
And just to close the door behind me, “Being Ready To Day” does NOT mean the end of “FUGLY”…
Y7 is still going to ‘try’ to play perimeter defense, which has become a joke of sorts…
Abu is still going to disappoint himself…
A.Freeman is still going to take some bad shots…
Markell, A. Freeman and Beverly are still going to make some bad passes…
Dorn is still going to rest in the first half…They’ve done that every game this season…
The games we won Big and the close ones, win or lose…. They were ‘Ready To Play’…
The games we lost by a lot… They weren’t ‘Ready To Play’…GO PACK!
POP!!!
#NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!03/10/2018 at 6:13 PM #132676Rick
KeymasterCoach Rick…
How are your girls doing this season?
GO PACK!
Botb,
Somehow my girls pulled off the win today.
My daughter was fantastic. She had 10 points and was responsible for another 10 or so.
I didn’t think we would run one do that was exciting.03/10/2018 at 6:35 PM #132677wolfmanmat
ParticipantLunardi has moved us to a 10 seed in the West against the Nevada Wolf Pack with the winner drawing 2 seed Purdue.
Would be perfect Ncaa set up. Wolf pack vs. Wolf pack and the Martin twins face their old school. Ncaa always sets up matchups for a reason and for interest. This makes way to much sense and could definitely see it happening
03/10/2018 at 7:10 PM #132678bill.onthebeach
ParticipantBotb,
Somehow my girls pulled off the win today.GREAT JOB!
They’ll remember that for a long time…
Success breeds success…
I just hope it wasn’t the last game of the season…Now…
Did you give PostGameSpeech #1 or #2 ???GO Rick’s GIRLS!
POP!!!
#NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!03/10/2018 at 9:24 PM #132680Rick
KeymasterBotb,
Somehow my girls pulled off the win today.GREAT JOB!
They’ll remember that for a long time…
Success breeds success…
I just hope it wasn’t the last game of the season…Now…
Did you give PostGameSpeech #1 or #2 ???GO Rick’s GIRLS!
POP!!!
I really had nothing to do with the won it was all on the girls. The defense finally clicked and it offense went well also.
It was the last game. They worked hard for it and I think my daughter figured out that practice pays off.
I gave them the ‘you work hard and it pays off’ speech. This was probably my favorite season ever. To see my daughter expression of joy after winning was worth every minute I put into the season.
03/11/2018 at 4:12 AM #132686Greywolf
ParticipantIt was the last game. They worked hard for it and I think my daughter figured out that practice pays off.
I gave them the ‘you work hard and it pays off’ speech. This was probably my favorite season ever. To see my daughter expression of joy after winning was worth every minute I put into the season.
Thanks for sharing Rick. Those lessons are the ones that make youth sports worthwhile.
03/11/2018 at 8:01 AM #132688Wulfpack
ParticipantUpdated: seeded 9th in the Midwest againt Butler. Kansas waiting in the wings.
03/11/2018 at 9:02 AM #132689Rick
KeymasterThanks for sharing Rick. Those lessons are the ones that make youth sports worthwhile.
Thanks for ‘listening’. I agree about kid learning. It was a tough season for her but she really worked hard. I hope that’s a life lesson for her.
03/11/2018 at 10:04 AM #132690Texpack
ParticipantIt was the last game. They worked hard for it and I think my daughter figured out that practice pays off.
I gave them the ‘you work hard and it pays off’ speech. This was probably my favorite season ever. To see my daughter expression of joy after winning was worth every minute I put into the season.
Thanks for sharing Rick. Those lessons are the ones that make youth sports worthwhile.
Establishing the link between hard work/preparation and success is the greatest lesson you can get from sports. I coached a one win team years ago and it wasn’t because of transfers either.
03/11/2018 at 12:34 PM #132692bill.onthebeach
ParticipantGreywolf wrote:
Thanks for sharing Rick.
Thanks for ‘listening’.
^StateFansNation at its finest…
GO PACK!
#NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!03/11/2018 at 2:18 PM #132693Wulfpack
ParticipantInteresting that Palm also has us as a 9 seed in the Midwest, facing Providence. Winner gets top seeded Kansas (who looked solid in the Big 12 Tourney).
03/11/2018 at 2:19 PM #132694Wulfpack
ParticipantReminder that the Selection Show is at 6 on TBS.
The NIT Selection Show follows at 8:30 on ESPNU.
03/11/2018 at 2:54 PM #132695Heelh8r
ParticipantThe NIT Selection Show follows at 8:30 on ESPNU.
Bite your tongue!
03/11/2018 at 2:58 PM #132696Wulfpack
ParticipantNo, not at all worried about the Pack getting in.
03/11/2018 at 3:07 PM #132697Wulfpack
ParticipantDavidson steals another bid.
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