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Gottfried’s Alabama teams defenses ranked 68, 83, 79, 126, 126, 122, 98 from 2003-2009. This was the SEC. Scoring at least helps your defense get set, and he’s typically been better in that department. But when his teams don’t score, his teams are flat out bad because they simply don’t defend well enough to stay in games. After the Lowe years, I was happy to actually see our players take a few charges. But only a few. IT’s like watching the Red Sea part when the opposing team goes down the lane. Lots of watching in the half court, poor communication, poor fundamentals in general, not to mention lack of consistent effort on that end. Talibeard would’ve averaged 20+ rebounds a game last year if he’d have actually boxed somebody out. Gottfried needs a lot of pieces in place to be moderately successful. Now, he’s facing an improved ACC with the addition of the old Big East schools. I just don’t ever see him being more middle of the conference here, with an occasional outlier of a team that’s horrendously bad or sweet-16ish good.
Time to fire up the basketball coaching candidates posts! Gott may be done. Back to back blowouts and you should be fired!
You can’t make broad sweeping generalizations following games at Cameron. That is my only insight of the night.
It really doesn’t matter who the coach is, the odds are against us until the playing field is leveled, starting with UNC-Cheat getting sent to the wood shed by the other members of the ACC by voting for sanctions in-house because the NCAA won’t act. But, wont happen because they are all Swoffards bitches………. obviously.
This team should lose a lot of ACC games. Attrition and a complete lack of planing/developmental made this seasons NCAA hopes D.O.A.
This was not a given, just a high, high probability…
That Gott would be considered to be candidate for the chopping block after this season or next was and still is highly improbable.
As a fan I can only throw this solution, albeit rash, and, a bit reckless.
Terminate Gott at the end of the season (three possible W’s on the schedule and atleast one due to sheer luck).
Tell him we don’t fire mid season and that committing the whole 2014-15 season after back-to-back seasons of not returning anything compared to what you have is unacceptable.
Money is tight so elevate Lutz to put in atleast a one year try out at bargain basement pricing. We are already paying a ton as a film guy/defensive strategist (uh, fail…) so it’s not really like we’re are changing the economics of the sitiuation drastically.
This won’t happen, I know, but it is one example of outside the box thinking that an AD can (and it does/has happened elsewhere) implement to stave of a death spiral.
The Gott is here for a while. Too much money for us to drop with the current contract.
Now that being said if someone could find a
HOT cheerleader to leave in his office we may have a shot….I understand the frustration with Gott, especially on defense. As for the criticism of our defense, I would just rather see him focus on his offensive strengths. I think he has heard the criticism throughout his career about his defenses and the result has been no improvement there and a weaker offense. There are only a small handful of coaches who are really good at both. We would be better if he just focused on his strengths (hi-tempo, transition) rather than trying to for a square peg.
“We need a dinosaur that can turn into a robot and chop the water like a karate ninja.”
Why would we not?
Well…it was a panic hire…No?
And not a bad one, all things considered.
Wuf’s dinosaur and PackFamily’s handful, are right on the money, Bill’s AAU take goes hand in hand.
The dinos are on their way out, unfortunately, the handfuls are exactly that…and God help these coaches from this thing they call basketball anymore.
No wonder State fan is left to cry incessantly about zeebs.
^^ THIS is a whole lot better than a “karate ninja who turns into a robot and then turns into a dinosaur”…
which is a position that one often finds concurrent with white hair.
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RE: BBall Coaching…
Has Everybody totally forgotten that Dr. Deb was a successful basketball coach before she was a successful AD ???
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Mr. Dog… I can’t find your email address in my Gmail… send me one… I want to send you something back….#NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!^… we have lost the last three BBall games by a combined margin of SIXTY SEVEN POINTS !!
So What ???
#NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!They are open all game for 3s, and we don’t even have a perimeter game. Can our guys actually not shoot outside shots, and 3s. Warren, and Lewis both were hitting them last year. We seem to average 1 or 2 a game. And rely on the inside game, while the other team scores 3s, we trade with 2s, and get further behind. And no matter how quick the ‘Cat’ is, he is out of control, and scores little. I say Lewis needs to be put back at the starting point guard. Speed don’t score points. Mentality and control have more success. Something Barber has not shown me, and Warren seems to get into the CJL mode sometimes, instead of giving the ball off to someone else who has a better shot at the basket. We are on a downward spiral.
We aren’t very good. What else is there to say? Hope Gott has a trick up his sleeve in year 4 or else it is back to the mothership.
Nothing suggests a lick is done concerning the betterment of the team from one year to the next other than what trainer Bob Alejo has succeeded in doing.
Helping Richard and JV to get into shape has been the only improvement and sign or team/player development. BJ Anya coming in transformed and ready to compete physically at a high level is the only “trick” I foresee as imaginable.
As for this season, and more importantly this point, there is nothing left except starting Lewis on Monday. I personally like the idea of Cat being the guy because he is capable in more areas and the effort/drive is all you could ask of. He has just hit the wall-and at his speed of action the debris is effecting other players, IMO.
I’m currently reading the new book, Wooden, and didn’t realize that it took 14 seasons at UCLA before John Wooden even won an NCAA tournament game. But during that time, Wooden had a plan, and was laying the groundwork for better things to come. His Pyramid of Success would probably be too much for the typical Wolfpack player of late to comprehend, but the short of it was that Coach Wooden had a plan, and he was determined to get his players, and himself, to perform to the best of their abilities. In other words, Wooden didn’t worry about the opposition, just his own players.
Right now, NC State basketball is the antithesis of what Coach Wooden built at UCLA. Our program continues to put on national display, thanks mainly to being associated with the ACC, players who look like they just came in off the street, with no fundamental skills whatsoever. They don’t play defense, they don’t carry themselves with confidence, and they don’t seem to care. Occasionally they’ll look good against other teams whose players also just throw it up and run from one end to the other, but when they run into well-coached teams like UVA and Duke, the wheels come off. Today, a national CBS audience saw our program embarrass itself yet again, outdoing the 31-point home debacle vs the Cavaliers just 7 days ago.
If the coaching staff were to take this coming Monday night off, the result would be no worse than it’s been so far. It might even be better.
Debbie Yow certainly had good intentions in making this coaching hire, and I’m sure UCLA may have been in the back of her mind, but the mess we’ve got in Raleigh isn’t even remotely connected to the kind of basketball that made the Bruins famous. And I don’t think it’s going to be.
Wolfpack basketball has used up every plan from Plan A to Plan 9 From Outer Space; none have worked. I suggest that we quit recruiting NBA wannabees and start looking for players who embrace the team concept of college basketball.
I say we save our time and money, and go watch the women play. They know what to do, and how to do it. We need to pack Reynolds Coliseum. They are winners, and play like it. No home losses either. Only 2 losses by 9 points each, but closer than the final score. But have knocked off every ranked team above them. Most recently blistering a 17th ranked FSU team, by 23. Miami on the road Sunday, and I actually expect another win. Game televised at 2 on Fox South. If you haven’t seen them, take the time. They deserve it. At least they have the concept of team and basketball down.
There is an awful lot of RAW ABILITY, very little Talent (as defined elsewhere) and minimal BBall IQ in our young kids….
and it’s going to take a couple of seasons for most of them to be the best they can be regardless of the color of their jerseys.bill I agree wholeheartedly with your assessment but I just don’t see things changing. Out team defense/offense hasn’t really changed in 3 years which is cause for concern.
That being said Gott and company have the opportunity to right the ship and I hope they do.
I will always be a hopeful wolfpacker.Mak4DPak,
I TOTALLY agree. I have been going to the women’s games this year….even drove over to Carmichael…IT was UGLY (including the facility), but it was NOT as UGLY as UVA and DUK….
I told my wife that we could probably pick up a flight in the AM and stay over and be home by noon on Saturday for our afternoon workout….She ALMOST took me up on it…
I STILL have my 4 LTR’s in the Lenovo Champions Club and will be there Monday Night…..but I will also take in MORE Reynolds games….
Wes Moore is doing a fine job. I think that Coach Gottfried is TRYING….but like Sidney, it seems like all he gets is deeper in the “hole”. He does NOT have the maturity nor the talent (superstars as well as SOLID players) in 2010/11. BUT, some of the efforts of the team look like what I saw in Lowe’s last year….and we had some pretty potent talent in the 2009/10 team…if you don’t believe it….look at Coach G’s contract….it got PUNCHED when he left Columbus and was headed for St. Louis…
SO, it is what it is….It STILL hurts….but if we feel bad, what about the 18 – 22 year olds that had to play or sit through the embarrassment ….
Be there yelling (FOR) the guys on Monday….and the Ladies on Thursday night with the BC Eaglettes come swooping in…
Notes from game:
Bad.
Continued poor decision making on offense.
Lost on defense.
Shot selection and offensive flow just plain weak.
Barber’s lack of experience truly evident.
Anya just not ready yet, Vandenburg not talented enough for ACC, same for Turner.
Most Duke players shoot better than Turner.
Gott’s high post scheme ineffective due to youth.Good.
K. Washington is making progress. He and Freeman will make a solid team in the paint in the future.
Warren should stay around all four years. He’s talented but just not NBA caliber ready at all.
Lee is a hustling machine.IMHO, I think team should 3-4 days off, regroup and reflect mentality. Get a fresh start somehow. It’s needed.
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