Panthers Look to Take the “Big Game”

Yes, the “Big Game”.

That’s right Roger Goodell….no royalties for you.

Do not send me any cease and desist letters either.  I’ll wipe my [redacted] with it just like all the rest, when I threatened your family if you didn’t suspend Joe Flacco for abusing Justin Tucker.  No proof my backside.

And poor Justin’s as well.

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But I digress…..

So Cam Newton looks to take over the world tonight, apparently.  His insidious scheme has included both a Heisman Trophy and Nat’l Championship while in college.  And now, as of last night, he is the reigning NFL MVP.  Should the Panthers be victorious in tonight’s fiftieth playing of the “Big Game”, Cam will become only the second ever to achieve that quadfecta (Marcus Allen), and the only quarterback ever to do so.

Oh….and Ron Rivera won COY honors again.

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Cam Newton named NFL MVP; Ron Rivera wins coach of the year (ESPN.com)

Newton was a landslide choice for MVP, with 48 votes from a nationwide panel of 50 sportswriters and broadcasters who regularly cover the NFL. Fellow QBs Tom Brady and Carson Palmer each received one vote.

In his fifth pro season, Newton also earned the Offensive Player of the Year award, which his father, mother and two brothers accepted Saturday night.

“Cam took an unconventional journey to get here, and we’re just so proud of what has happened, my family and I,” Newton’s father, Cecil, said. “So many thanks go out to so many people, from Pop Warner to the Panthers. I don’t have time to tell you all ‘thank you.’ You know who you are. We know who you are.”

Newton earned 18 votes for top offensive player. Steelers receiver Antonio Brown was second, with 10.

Newton became the first black quarterback to win The Associated Press MVP award outright. Tennessee’s Steve McNair shared the award with Peyton Manning after the 2004 season.

On the other hand, Peyton Manning looks to go out (probably go out at least….Pey Pey, please don’t pull a Favre) on top.

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For Peyton Manning, Super Bowl is personal test of will (USAToday.com)

“There is no question it’s important to me, it’s very personal to me, and no question this season has had some unique challenges. I try to stay in the moment, I try not to assume that this is how things are going to be from here on out,” Manning said. “I really even with all the different challenges I felt like peace about it the whole time. Not knowing how it was going to work out, I had a peace about it and that certainly helped.”

Manning’s 18-year NFL career might end here at Levi’s Stadium on Sunday in Super Bowl 50, and if it does, it would be a fitting finish for the future Hall of Famer, even if it’s an ending no one could have predicted a month ago, or really, at any point in 2015.

But will it end with Manning’s second Super Bowl ring, a championship that would vault him into elite quarterback company, or will it end with another disappointing postseason loss?

Those closest to him say it doesn’t matter, that Manning’s legacy is set regardless of the outcome of Super Bowl 50, because just getting here at the end of the most tumultuous year of his career has been the ultimate victory.

Superb Owl Fifty (can’t touch me)

Panthers v Broncos

6:30pm, CBS

Now, the fun….

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Regardless of the outcome of the game, we are now all winners I think.

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  • #99120
    TheAliasTroll
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    So I wake up this AM and first thing I see all over the place is how Cam Newton acted a turd in the post game press conference. Grow up, kid.

    #99121
    choppack1
    Participant

    He is only 26. However, Mike and Mike crack me up.

    Be consistent guys – one of life’s truism is that adversity reveals character…and what we saw yesterday was a big reason why some have doubted Cam… And I say this as a cam Newton fan. From the fumble that he didn’t dive for to the post game comments.

    Hopefully, he will step back and grow from this.

    OTOH – it was good to see Norman congratulating Peyton.

    #99122
    TheAliasTroll
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    I’m a life long Panther’s fan. I’ve got on VHS their very first game they played against the Jaguars in the HOF preseason game they played back in 95.

    That said, it’s abundantly clear that Cam Newton is an a$zhole. How many other 20 something year old “kids” have lost a Superbowl and not acted like a 5 year old?

    He talks like a big fella and goes out there hot dogging when he’s winning, then telling his critics if they want him to stop “having so much fun” then the other team needs to stop him. Well he was stopped last night and then showed his true classlessness.

    As a fan he’s not the person I’d prefer to be the face of the franchise right now. If he grows the hell up and can exude an ounce of modesty after a tail whipping then perhaps I’d be willing to change my tune as well.

    #99123
    BassPacker
    Participant

    ^Amen Troll !!

    Some here compared Rogers and Brady to Cam with their “hot dogging”. Theres a difference in celebrating a big play and celebrating one-self. If you gonna talk the talk you better not walk the walk away when ask post game questions. Which by the way were not HARD questions.

    #99124
    choppack1
    Participant

    3 totally different types of celebrations – IMHO’s Brady’s celebration is a quick, demonstrative “Yeeaaa!”, Rogers is somewhat self-oriented but still quick, Cam’s celebration goes on for much longer.

    It has always been an intellectually dishonest argument to say ” well, Brady celebrates too and no one gets mad at them.”

    It either demonstrates ignorance or something much more duplicitous.

    #99125
    Wolfanatic
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    Agree with Troll also. Cam’s sullen and petulant attitude after the game, coupled with what appeared to be a total lack of desire to recover his own critical fumble with the game on the line will only serve as more ammo for his detractors. Such a shame that his maturity has not progressed equally with his skills.

    #99126
    mak4dpak
    Participant

    Cowboy’s fan here, who always pulled for Panthers secondly, but clearly have difficulty with that anymore, since Cam became the team leader, and QB. His behavior and attitude are an embarrassment to the game, and the team. He certainly needs to grow up. I pulled for the Broncos, and hoping Peyton would retire a winner, and that is one who knows what having class is. Maybe Newton will learn one day.

    #99127
    choppack1
    Participant

    Wolfanatic -he is definitely more mature than he was when he arrived in Charlotte. But this was a setback in his development. Still, his upside is absolutely worthy of continuing to support him.

    #99128
    Wufpacker
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    I said it at the time and after having rewatched replays I still say it…it is very disingenuous to try to make a judgement of whether Cam should have dived for the fumble in question. Even from my TV perspective in real time I thought it would be better to wait and see how the bounce went next given the location/direction it was heading. And I sure didn’t see it from his perspective. But to then use it as an indication his heart might not have been in it? C’mon folks…you know better than that.

    As far as the post-game, he could have handled it better. And he will in the future if he ever gets back there. But if I’m a Panthers fan I am damn happy he’s pissed off. He’ll use that feeling and be better next time because of it.

    Ease up on the guy. Sheeesh.

    #99129
    tjfoose1
    Participant

    Even from my TV perspective in real time I thought it would be better to wait and see how the bounce went next given the location/direction it was heading.

    I’m guessing you’ve never participated in a fumble drill. As a player, and certainly not as a coach. 🙂

    From my perspective, it was immediately clear what it was.

    A ‘business decision’ made by the latter 2/3’rds of someone who sees himself “not only as a football player, but an entertainer and icon.”

    And he knows it, even if no one else does.

    #99130
    Wufpacker
    Participant

    I’m guessing you’ve never participated in a fumble drill. As a player, and certainly not as a coach. :)

    From my perspective, it was immediately clear what it was.

    A ‘business decision’ made by the latter 2/3’rds of someone who sees himself “not only as a football player, but an entertainer and icon.”

    And he knows it, even if no one else does.

    I have, but admittedly it’s been a long while, LOL.

    My take was that the ball kicked and caused him to second guess any decision one way or another. I thought it was a mistake of sorts, and one I understand even….just not of the nature most folks are attributing it to.

    Interesting to hear your perspective. I’ll have to go back and look again.

    #99131
    tjfoose1
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    Admittedly, my judgment is influenced by his past actions. I think it was a reflexive “me first” reaction.

    He started to go for the ball, then realized “oh, ***, that’s a mass of bodies going for that thing, I ain’t diving in that mess. Forget that s***, I’m the QB, I’m Cam Newton.”

    Just one man’s take, but body language speaks volumes, and Cam has never been mute when it comes to body language.

    #99132
    MrPlywood
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    body language speaks volumes, and Cam has never been mute when it comes to body language.

    So true. FWIW, in the comments section for this story on ESPN, someone replied “Russell Wilson would have dove onto the ball.” and it got tons of up votes. 🙂

    #99133
    Wufpacker
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    Admittedly, my judgment is influenced by his past actions. I think it was a reflexive “me first” reaction.

    He started to go for the ball, then realized “oh, ***, that’s a mass of bodies going for that thing, I ain’t diving in that mess. Forget that s***, I’m the QB, I’m Cam Newton.”

    Just one man’s take, but body language speaks volumes, and Cam has never been mute when it comes to body language.

    After re-watching, with your perspective in mind, I admit I’m no longer certain. But also not ready to condemn it as such.
    Dammit…now I be so confusled.
    Cam!!!! You divisive man-child!!!!!

    #99134
    Wufpacker
    Participant

    FWIW, the slo mo frame by frame does make it look more like a conscious “No effing way” decision. At least initially. He did take a knee and make a (sorta) effort after that. But regardless of what his true motivations, or lack thereof perhaps, might have been….I get the opinion.

    #99147
    TheAliasTroll
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    http://abc11.com/sports/cam-newton-defends-walking-out-of-news-conference/1193482/

    Nothing to debate any more regarding whether or not Cam was protecting his own interests on that fumble play. He came right out today and apologetically admitted to it:

    Newton also defended himself for not diving to try to recover his fumble in the fourth quarter that eventually was recovered by the Broncos. Denver went on to score a touchdown to put the game out of reach.

    He said that he would have risked injury by diving as it would have meant he would have had to twist his leg in an awkward direction.

    Newton said that if he had thrown an interception and not tried to make the tackle to avoid an injury he likely would have not heard any complaints.

    In the MF’ing Superbowl no doubt. I remember a couple of years ago in the pre-season when Phil Rivers tossed an INT and went into full on linebacker mode, squared up, and saved a TD. In the damn PRE-SEASON, folks!!!

    Sure they’re both fiery QBs, but the difference is that one plays for the team and one plays for himself. Not debatable any longer.

    #99148
    Wolfanatic
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    Wow, thanks for posting that, Troll. I had not seen that. I feel somewhat vindicated in questioning his desire to recover his fumble.

    Wufpacker, that is the best replay of that play that I have seen. I think that if you compare Cam’s attempt, hustle and desire to get the ball, compared to that of Demarcus Ware, Ryan Kalil or Malik Jackson, well, there simply is no comparison or question as to who was willing to give his best effort.

    And Troll, your statement: “Sure they’re both fiery QBs, but the difference is that one plays for the team and one plays for himself. Not debatable any longer.” pretty much sums up my feelings about Cam. It seems that it is Cam first, team second in his mind. That’s just my opinion, and I am no Cam-hater. Truth be told, had they been playing the Pats, I would have preferred to see the Panthers win.

    #99149
    TheCOWDOG
    Moderator

    I have no vested interest in The Panthers, and therefore none in Newton.

    However, if the boy wants the lifetime glow of being a pro, he might wanna consider shutting the trap for awhile.

    Beyond his apologists, everything he said today, spoke more than what he didn’t say on Sunday.

    #99150
    Wufpacker
    Participant

    ^ Agreed, and not even talking about fans/writers.
    Teammates might be professing love now, but at some point that might blow back.

    #99153
    tjfoose1
    Participant

    Wow.

    I honestly thought that was a joke when I first read it.

    I guess that ends all debate on Cam’s “me first” attitude.

    In the 4th quarter, down by a single score, deep in your own territory, in the freakin’ SUPER BOWL!?…

    Wtf?… I guess I was even more right than I thought.

    #99154
    choppack1
    Participant

    How do you think Thomas Davis feels about that.

    #99155
    choppack1
    Participant

    That video clip will haunt him alot longer than anything he said in the press conference.

    #99156
    Gowolves
    Participant

    You guys have forgotten Andy Dalton. Broken thumb and out for the season after trying to tackle a Steeler player who had just picked off the pass. Cam runs a lot and takes some serious hits because of that. Flips into the end zone. I think he has earned the benefit of doubt from me.

    #99157
    choppack1
    Participant

    Go wolves – he admits he didn’t try to get the fumble on a play that was the difference between his team having a chance to win the super bowl and the game being pretty much over. Probably a very good thing Steve smith isn’t on the team any more.

    #99159
    TheAliasTroll
    Participant

    I think he has earned the benefit of doubt from me.

    I don’t think he left anything to doubt. He stated he didn’t want to risk injury to himself to even try to recover a crucial fumble in the Super Bowl. I can’t figure how anyone that understands the concept of football as a team sport could reasonably give him a pass for that. Pre-season? Sure. Regular season? Maybe (but not from me). Playoffs? Hell to the NO! The friggin Superbowl? WTF is wrong with you?!!!

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