ACC to welcome Notre Dame as partial-member (UPDATED 12PM)

Noon Update:
Dan Wetzel explains some details (Yahoo!):

Even though the football team isn’t joining the ACC, that program is affected by the news as well.

The Irish will play five games every year against ACC opponents, the conference said. Notre Dame will join the ACC as soon as it can exit the Big East, according to ESPN’s story. The school has to provide a 27-month notice, but West Virginia, Pittsburgh and Syracuse were able to get out earlier by paying a higher exit fee.

The arrangement will obviously be unusual. Notre Dame will play close to a full ACC schedule – the full members of the conference play eight league games – but not be part of the league. Notre Dame could go 5-0 in games against regularly scheduled ACC foes but wouldn’t claim the conference championship, at least officially.

Like most things about realignment, it’s confusing.

ACC members will get less non-conference scheduling flexibility, but that’s probably not a bad tradeoff for those teams to get the occasional home game (and huge crowd) against Notre Dame. Notre Dame’s scheduling flexibility will also be affected a bit, but this year’s schedule already had an ACC flavor, with Miami, Boston College and Wake Forest on the slate, as well as future ACC member Pitt.

Also, the new arrangement with the ACC doesn’t affect Notre Dame’s television contract with NBC, the South Bend Tribune reports, which makes the ACC deal a pretty nice win for the Fighting Irish.

Also, tucked away in this news is the ACC’s revised $50 million exit fee, up from $20 million, which effectively solidifies the commitment of the current membership and ends any talk of ACC teams defecting the SEC (Orlando Sentinel):

One of the biggest items in Wednesday morning’s announcement from the Atlantic Coast Conference about a new partial membership agreement with Notre Dame had to do with an expanded exit fee.

According to the ACC’s announcement, school administrators serving on the ACC’s Council of Presidents upped the conference’s exit fee to $50 million. It now will take current member schools an additional $30 million to leave the conference for a new affiliation.

Updated 10:30AM:
ESPN reporting this is a done deal:

Notre Dame will join the Atlantic Coast Conference as a full member with the exception of football, but will play five football games annually against ACC teams.

“We have monitored the changing conference landscape for many months and have concluded that moving to the ACC is the best course of action for us,” said Jack Swarbrick, Notre Dame vice president and director of athletics, in a statement released by the conference. “We are able to maintain our historic independence in football, join in the ACC’s non-BCS bowl package, and provide a new and extremely competitive home for our other sports.”

The ACC does not offer hockey, so it is presumed that Notre Dame will go through with its planned move to Hockey East in that sport.

The Irish will join the ACC as soon as it can exit the Big East. The Big East currently requires members to provide 27 months notice to exit although West Virginia, Pittsburgh and Syracuse were able to leave earlier by paying a higher exit fee.

Keep in mind, Dick Vitale was hinting all around this on Twitter last week.

Two questions that come immediately to mind:
1) How much influence will Notre Dame have in which ACC teams it schedules? Surely it will maintain its traditional rivalry with Boston College, but will the other slots be on a standard rotation among all 12 14 teams or will there be preferences for certain teams?

2) How will this affect Notre Dame’s BCS eligibility? Will they take an ACC slot as pseudo-champion?

Previous:
ESPN’s Brett McMurphy (@McMurphyESPN) just tweeted:

Notre Dame will join ACC as full member w/exception of football. ND will play 5 football games annually vs. ACC, sources told @ESPN

Notre Dame will join ACC as soon as it exits Big East. BE requires 27 months notice, but Irish could negotiate earlier exit

This is NOT a surprise to us. We’d heard multiple rumblings about Notre Dame joining the ACC, but that some ‘unique details’ were being worked out. So, we didn’t know if that was special scheduling issues related to non-revenue sports or if it was some kind of partial membership (that is clearly new territory for the Atlantic Coast Conference).

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95 Responses to ACC to welcome Notre Dame as partial-member (UPDATED 12PM)

  1. StateofthePack 09/12/2012 at 10:54 AM #

    This would also allow the intro to a teams division only record to determine who plays in the champ game. That would account for the non balanced schedule and for the teams that are in the rota with ND for that season.

  2. Wufpacker 09/12/2012 at 10:56 AM #

    “With ND coming on board, the ACC most probably will be able to renegotiate their current TV deal due to the fact that everyone is going want ot televise those 5-6 games away from South Bend on something other than ACC network.”

    Just speculating (admittedly haven’t read details of deal yet) but I would think this deal allows ND to retain their exclusivity with NBC, thus I think half those games may well be spoken for already. And it wouldn’t surprise me if the Swoff handed them the other half to sweeten the pot.

  3. Lumpy 09/12/2012 at 10:57 AM #

    Ugh, I want to vomit. Nothing shows zero confidence for your conference’s future prospects like bending over backwards to accept Notre Dame that’s a shadow of it’s former self and their selfish demands. They’re not even eligible to win an ACC title in football. So they get to keep their games against USC, Michigan, and Michigan St. Their ridiculously over priced NBC deal, and since they want to keep their yearly BC matchup, that only leaves a four game barnstorming tour through the ACC. Miami, FSU, and VT will surely be 3 of those games, leaving one more game that will be rotated around the remaining 9 ACC teams. I know the ACC has been crappy in football since the last expansion, but this feels so desperate. C’mon Swofford! Have some pride!

  4. Wulfpack 09/12/2012 at 10:58 AM #

    Also adds a large chunk of the NYC market to the ACC. Loads of Irish fans there.

  5. Wulfpack 09/12/2012 at 11:00 AM #

    I heard ND will play each ACC team every 3 years.

  6. StateFans 09/12/2012 at 11:00 AM #

    Got lots of thoughts. Don’t have much time. I like the move. I like it a lot. Most of you guys who are complaining and whining about what you wish would happen in an idealistic world. I totally agree with you. I wish the conference was different.

    But, it is not.

    So, when laid against the options that actually existed in the world as we know it — how can you not like this move?

    The ACC that you love (either past or current) had a VERY REAL risk of IMPLODING. Take FSU and Clemson out and tell me where we stand in the new world order?

    So, to keep the ACC relevant….we HAD to do something and keep getting to 16 teams. Period. I would love to hear who you would’ve added to ‘save’ us. Especially realizing that if you didn’t add someone that FSU & Clemson could be gone and we are back at 12 without FSU & Clemson.

  7. Wulfpack 09/12/2012 at 11:08 AM #

    I agree Statefans. The ACC had to do something. The additions of Pitt, Cuse and now ND are formidable. I don’t know who else you would target.

  8. Wufpacker 09/12/2012 at 11:09 AM #

    Penn State (No, I’m not kidding)

  9. Lunatic Fringe 09/12/2012 at 11:10 AM #

    Question:
    What is the definition of a second tier conference?

    Answer:
    Adding ND without football..

  10. JasonP 09/12/2012 at 11:14 AM #

    Since this is a done deal, I hope the ACC honchos are shrewd enough to put some strong language in the contract that forces ND to become a full member at some point in the near future, say 3 or 5 years.

    As for #16, has to be Louisville.

    No more yankees or private schools.

  11. Wulfpack 09/12/2012 at 11:16 AM #

    I’d like to see Louisville as well. I am just not sold on UConn, Rutgers, Penn State or Cincy.

  12. Wufpacker 09/12/2012 at 11:19 AM #

    I’d be absolutely fine with Louisville as well. Cincy I could stomach but would consider a booby prize. Hope we stay far away from Rutgers.

  13. RabidWolf 09/12/2012 at 11:19 AM #

    I guess priest jokes would be out of line…..

  14. Wolfacct 09/12/2012 at 11:19 AM #

    When does ND’s contract with NBC expire? Maybe then the Irish will become a full member in football. I think we all knew this was inevitable if the ACC was to remain relevant in big-time college football.

  15. redredred 09/12/2012 at 11:20 AM #

    ” Look for FSU to go independent in football. Why wouldn’t they? Hopefully, there is more to this deal than I’m reading into it. But it sounds like a win-lose.”

    FSU going independent will never happen. While a great program, they don’t have near the national appeal of ND.

  16. tjfoose1 09/12/2012 at 11:29 AM #

    “We have monitored the changing conference landscape for many months and have concluded that moving to the ACC is the best course of action for us,”

    In other words, “We really wanted to join the Big 10, but they’re big boys up there and wouldn’t let us in without football. Thanks for caving, ACC. And thanks for supporting all our other sports and for sharing that basketball money”

  17. tjfoose1 09/12/2012 at 11:38 AM #

    “NOTRE Dame gets future scheduling security due to not ever sceduling FCS schools and having a hard time filling their scedule in Oct and Nov during everyone else being in the middle of conference season. ”

    Um, Notre Dame has never had a problem with filling it’s schedule.

  18. LRM 09/12/2012 at 11:45 AM #

    You can look at this way: would you rather have ND as a partial-member, or would you rather be a basketball-only league with as much chance at the BCS money as ECU?

  19. StateFans 09/12/2012 at 11:49 AM #

    Penn State and Navy are my two top tier choices for the 16th spot. I’ll have more on that in the future.

  20. StateFans 09/12/2012 at 11:51 AM #

    Look for FSU to go independent in football? So, they are going to pay $50 million for the right to be independent? How do some of you get through the day without hurting yourself?

  21. Lumpy 09/12/2012 at 11:54 AM #

    So we get ND at home or possibly a nationally televised game at South Bend every 3 years? Ya f’n hoo. The ONLY way we will ever get ND to be a full member in football is if they continue to suck and become even less relevant as a national brand, and need the ACC championship hardware to get back in the picture. Make no mistake, if ND finally turns the corner and gets back in dynasty shape, they will weasel out of this deal ASAP. I just don’t see how this “secret girlfriend” relationship benefits the conference long term.

  22. LRM 09/12/2012 at 11:56 AM #

    Like I said in the update: “Also, tucked away in this news is the ACC’s revised $50 million exit fee, up from $20 million, which effectively solidifies the commitment of the current membership and ends any talk of ACC teams defecting the SEC.”

    You may not like the ACC going to 16, or ND joining, but last summer the ACC was poised for extinction, and now it’s revived itself as a player in future BCS discussions, if for no other reason than Notre Dame — no matter how mediocre they remain — will always be a major player in the BCS. All that matters is TV revenue, and the ACC just locked up a mega TV player.

  23. Master 09/12/2012 at 11:59 AM #

    It’s not the perfect situation for the ACC, but don’t lose sight of the forest here. Outside the ultra longshot of getting Kentucky, Vanderbilt or South Carolina to leave the SEC, name another school not named Penn State that could join the ACC to add any additional football credibility to our conference. If you are pissed about having to pay $50MM to leave the conference, that was never going to happen anyway. I too am disappointed about the truncated schedule, but ND is a stand alone brand. Lets don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater.

    Also, what’s wrong with this friggen reply window that types every other letter…………………….

  24. Tampa-Pack 09/12/2012 at 12:01 PM #

    Does the new exit fee apply to ND as well? If so, that would keep them from leaving if they ever got a better deal. Wonder if Swof will hold them to the full amount as everyone else has to pay.

  25. LRM 09/12/2012 at 12:02 PM #

    What if Swofford had the foresight last year to offer this same deal to both Texas and ND? Then the ACC would be solidified as part of BCS at 14, without Pitt and Syracuse.

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