ACC to welcome Notre Dame as partial-member (UPDATED 12PM)

Noon Update:
Dan Wetzel explains some details (Yahoo!):

Even though the football team isn’t joining the ACC, that program is affected by the news as well.

The Irish will play five games every year against ACC opponents, the conference said. Notre Dame will join the ACC as soon as it can exit the Big East, according to ESPN’s story. The school has to provide a 27-month notice, but West Virginia, Pittsburgh and Syracuse were able to get out earlier by paying a higher exit fee.

The arrangement will obviously be unusual. Notre Dame will play close to a full ACC schedule – the full members of the conference play eight league games – but not be part of the league. Notre Dame could go 5-0 in games against regularly scheduled ACC foes but wouldn’t claim the conference championship, at least officially.

Like most things about realignment, it’s confusing.

ACC members will get less non-conference scheduling flexibility, but that’s probably not a bad tradeoff for those teams to get the occasional home game (and huge crowd) against Notre Dame. Notre Dame’s scheduling flexibility will also be affected a bit, but this year’s schedule already had an ACC flavor, with Miami, Boston College and Wake Forest on the slate, as well as future ACC member Pitt.

Also, the new arrangement with the ACC doesn’t affect Notre Dame’s television contract with NBC, the South Bend Tribune reports, which makes the ACC deal a pretty nice win for the Fighting Irish.

Also, tucked away in this news is the ACC’s revised $50 million exit fee, up from $20 million, which effectively solidifies the commitment of the current membership and ends any talk of ACC teams defecting the SEC (Orlando Sentinel):

One of the biggest items in Wednesday morning’s announcement from the Atlantic Coast Conference about a new partial membership agreement with Notre Dame had to do with an expanded exit fee.

According to the ACC’s announcement, school administrators serving on the ACC’s Council of Presidents upped the conference’s exit fee to $50 million. It now will take current member schools an additional $30 million to leave the conference for a new affiliation.

Updated 10:30AM:
ESPN reporting this is a done deal:

Notre Dame will join the Atlantic Coast Conference as a full member with the exception of football, but will play five football games annually against ACC teams.

“We have monitored the changing conference landscape for many months and have concluded that moving to the ACC is the best course of action for us,” said Jack Swarbrick, Notre Dame vice president and director of athletics, in a statement released by the conference. “We are able to maintain our historic independence in football, join in the ACC’s non-BCS bowl package, and provide a new and extremely competitive home for our other sports.”

The ACC does not offer hockey, so it is presumed that Notre Dame will go through with its planned move to Hockey East in that sport.

The Irish will join the ACC as soon as it can exit the Big East. The Big East currently requires members to provide 27 months notice to exit although West Virginia, Pittsburgh and Syracuse were able to leave earlier by paying a higher exit fee.

Keep in mind, Dick Vitale was hinting all around this on Twitter last week.

Two questions that come immediately to mind:
1) How much influence will Notre Dame have in which ACC teams it schedules? Surely it will maintain its traditional rivalry with Boston College, but will the other slots be on a standard rotation among all 12 14 teams or will there be preferences for certain teams?

2) How will this affect Notre Dame’s BCS eligibility? Will they take an ACC slot as pseudo-champion?

Previous:
ESPN’s Brett McMurphy (@McMurphyESPN) just tweeted:

Notre Dame will join ACC as full member w/exception of football. ND will play 5 football games annually vs. ACC, sources told @ESPN

Notre Dame will join ACC as soon as it exits Big East. BE requires 27 months notice, but Irish could negotiate earlier exit

This is NOT a surprise to us. We’d heard multiple rumblings about Notre Dame joining the ACC, but that some ‘unique details’ were being worked out. So, we didn’t know if that was special scheduling issues related to non-revenue sports or if it was some kind of partial membership (that is clearly new territory for the Atlantic Coast Conference).

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95 Responses to ACC to welcome Notre Dame as partial-member (UPDATED 12PM)

  1. timswar 09/12/2012 at 9:22 AM #

    I hope the schools haven’t voted on this. Bringing them on as a partial member just exposes the ACC as a BE-level joke in football while taxing the travel budgets of our non-revenue sports. Notre Dame isn’t worth that much hassle.

    I guess I shouldn’t expect more from Swofford.

  2. JasonP 09/12/2012 at 9:26 AM #

    Bah! Humbug!

    Not excited about this deal for another Prima Donna in the league dictating what they will and won’t do for the conference.

    What else do they bring to the table other than football? Basketball and another whiney fan base? We’re getting roughly the same deal they wagered with the Big East and the BE got no benefit from it, obviously.

    Time to officially drop the name Atlantic Coast Conference.

  3. TOBtime 09/12/2012 at 9:30 AM #

    Even more reason for us to be in the SEC. If you’re going to be pissed on, and I don’t think it will be as bad as some believe in the SEC, may as well let it happen in a decent conference. The word “joke” and ACC don’t even go together anymore.
    But hey, ND can reunite with Syracuse, Pitt and BC. It will be just like old times.

  4. tlk1969 09/12/2012 at 9:34 AM #

    Time to play “just the tip.”. .

  5. packalum44 09/12/2012 at 9:42 AM #

    Exit fees have increased to $50 million!!!!!!!!!!!

    That sucks huge donkey kong d***. No chance in hell we go to the SEC now. I’d rather the ACC implode than see the one it has become.

    NOT EXCITED at this news. All the “hope” I held on to has diminished. We will remain irrelevant in football for my lifetime.

  6. 61Packer 09/12/2012 at 9:45 AM #

    We’ve literally become a half-assed conference with 14.5 members.

    Can’t wait to see what a 15-team ACCT looks like.

  7. inhoc... 09/12/2012 at 9:50 AM #

    “Even more reason for us to be in the SEC. If you’re going to be pissed on, and I don’t think it will be as bad as some believe in the SEC,”

    We’ve already been pissed on my the sec this year and we aren’t even members

  8. packalum44 09/12/2012 at 9:51 AM #

    Also why in the hell wouldn’t Notre Dame go to the Big X, VII or SEC?! Why us?

    This does not seem to be a long term strategic move, b/c the ACC will always suck in football and ND has ensured their slow but steady path to irrelevancy in football.

  9. packof81 09/12/2012 at 9:52 AM #

    Not content with the mess made by expanding the conference, they’re expanding it some more. Yeah. That’ll fix it.

  10. inhoc... 09/12/2012 at 9:56 AM #

    “Even more reason for us to be in the SEC. If you’re going to be pissed on, and I don’t think it will be as bad as some believe in the SEC,”

    We’ve already been pissed on my the sec this year and we aren’t even members.

    As much as I’d like to be relevant, our perception to the sec and the rest of the football world is that we are a joke, and perception is reality my friends….

  11. DC_wolf 09/12/2012 at 10:05 AM #

    When I first read the headline I thought, “oh, cool – we get to play a national brand in football…” then I saw it was only really b-ball. How is this an ‘addition’? Just adding to an already watered-down ACC.

    So ND is lowering their “double-standard” for that of the blues? What is college athletics coming to…

  12. LRM 09/12/2012 at 10:07 AM #

    Like it or not, this was a brilliant move for Notre Dame and the ACC. Notre Dame hedges against continued football mediocrity while the ACC solidifies its position as part of the BCS. Sadly, it could’ve been done without adding Pitt and/or Syracuse.

  13. wolfbuff 09/12/2012 at 10:10 AM #

    This is craziness. ND is much better fit with the Big Televenelve, geographically and probably academically. My suspicion is that they wouldn’t have them unless they were all in, and neither should the ACC. Agree with the poster above who said that ND is not worth the hassle. Football drives the money machine that is driving conference expansion. So to not have them as a football school makes no sense. So much for the revenue sharing model that has been such a long-standing principle of the ACC. So they get to reap the benefits of the basketball revenues, but not share their football revenues? Look for FSU to go independent in football. Why wouldn’t they? Hopefully, there is more to this deal than I’m reading into it. But it sounds like a win-lose.

    That said, want to bet that we’ll be the last to get a game against ND, and that it will be up there? It’ll be 5-6 years before we see them in Raleigh. And by that time, we may have expanded/realigned/consolidated again.

  14. NCSU88 09/12/2012 at 10:11 AM #

    It appears Ms Hansbrough did not finish the job. What a tease.

  15. BJD95 09/12/2012 at 10:12 AM #

    I hate this move. Absolutely hate it. Full member or nothing.

    ND “chose” the ACC because no other conference would accept such a ridiculous arrangement.

  16. LRM 09/12/2012 at 10:14 AM #

    Like it or not, we’ve all been looking for the move to keep the ACC viable as part of the BCS, and this is it.

  17. wilmwolf80 09/12/2012 at 10:15 AM #

    Not against the addition of ND at all, but the partial football deal really grinds my gears. There’s no logical reason that if they are playing 5 ACC games, they can’t play a full conference schedule. IMO, ND is getting the best of this deal, and the other ACC member institutions are getting zilch. Perhaps this will be the straw that finally breaks Johnny Swofford’s back. Obviously the member institutions don’t care enough about the stink on the hill to bring Johnny to reckoning, but maybe this will change their minds. I just can’t see too many ACC schools jumping for joy over this deal.

  18. TeufelWolf 09/12/2012 at 10:16 AM #

    Horrible news. How foes this help the ACC at all? It’s more of a slap in the face than anything. Even if they were to join in football- who cares. They are delusional as to the state of their football program. They are becoming more irrelevant every year. I loathe ND arrogance.

  19. projectwentynine 09/12/2012 at 10:17 AM #

    Going to the SEC is intriguing in regard to basketball and baseball, but football would be a nightmare. We would be fortunate to be able to field a full squad by the end of a season playing an SEC schedule week in and week out, much less be competitive.

  20. Wufpacker 09/12/2012 at 10:20 AM #

    Reeks of desperation from both parties. Meh.

  21. LRM 09/12/2012 at 10:20 AM #

    You can say you don’t like it, that’s your perrogative (I don’t either).

    But you can’t look objectively at the landscape of college football and say this doesn’t help the ACC. They have as much voting power in the BCS structure as the ACC, and regardless of their prowess on the field, they’re still wildly relevant from a TV revenue-perspective, which is what matters.

  22. Pack78 09/12/2012 at 10:28 AM #

    Some chatter that the ND FB games with current ACC members will not count in league standings, but be treated as OOC. I wonder whether ND has ANY commitment currently to timeline a move to full member status-they seem to hold the cards and this smacks of ACC weakness.

  23. gumby 09/12/2012 at 10:30 AM #

    This is all just a plot by u*nc to make those recently uncovered illicit trips to South Bend by Kupec and Stiffler’s mom be classified as “allowable costs”

  24. StateofthePack 09/12/2012 at 10:48 AM #

    This is a win for Notre Dame and the ACC. NOTRE Dame gets future scheduling security due to not ever sceduling FCS schools and having a hard time filling their scedule in Oct and Nov during everyone else being in the middle of conference season. Theysolidify their basketball and non revenue sports in a stable conference.
    The ACC gets the marque big fish in the pond and the exposure thatcomes with five games a year. With ND coming on board, the ACC most probably will be able to renegotiate their current TV deal due to the fact that everyone is going want ot televise those 5-6 games away from South Bend on something other than ACC network. They are not eligible for the championship or BCS bid. And each school is guaranteed to playthem every third year. The ACC from my childhood is gone and ain’t coming back. This agreement insures that the ACC survives at the big boy table and gives themember institutions stability in an unstable college environment.

  25. StateFans 09/12/2012 at 10:49 AM #

    Do we know if the five ACC games a year are in addition to Notre Dame’s annual game with Boston College or not? Technically, that could be six games a year.

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