ACC’s so called ‘statement’ another slap in the face to NC State (10:10pm)

Why did they f***ing bother? In this statement the conference weasels its way into even more disdain from fans focusing on Karl Hess’ authority to remove Chris Corchiani and Tom Gugliotta, while completely ignoring his controversial judgement to do so.


Feb. 18, 2012

Statement from ACC Supervisor of Officials John Clougherty on the ejection that took place at today’s Florida State at NC State men’s basketball game:

“Under Rule 10, when circumstances warrant, an official has the authority to request home game management to eject fans when the behavior, in the officials’ judgement, is extreme or excessive. It’s unfortunate in this instance that ACC protocol of communicating directly with the home game management was not followed, and instead, a building security officer was solicited. We will re-communicate this policy with all officials to ensure proper protocol is followed.”


Sadly, one of the best explanations of the statement came from the twitter account of a UNC fan:

So, instead of “Hess was wrong to throw them out,” the ACC’s position is “Hess threw them out wrong”?


Another Tar heel homer also agreed when WRAL’s @ErinESummers used the following description of the statement:

ACC stands behind Hess and does not question/comment on his judgment to eject Corch, Gugs but instead comments on how it was done improperly

She also seems to agree with all of WolfpackNation’s characteristic of this farse –

that’s the official release and it is absolutely lame


So…after the ACC has had a chance to comment on the issue, the primary question still remains — EXACTLY WHY did Karl Hess have Corchiani and Gugliotta removed today? Corch & Googs have taken the stance to go on the record to publicly state that no curse words were used or threatening statements. This account of the situation seems to have been corroborated by multiple eye-witness accounts of people on press row and around the incident.

So, WHY is the ACC and Karl Hess not expected to be held accountable to explain the specifics of the situation that Hess CHOSE to initiate?


I will ask the same question that was being asked on the blog on Thursday night — why do NC State fans, leaders and administrators CONTINUE to participate in an affiliation that is so dis-respectful and slanted against us? Why do we keep fooling ourselves into believing that we are a part of anything less rigged than professional wrestling at this point?

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155 Responses to ACC’s so called ‘statement’ another slap in the face to NC State (10:10pm)

  1. Old MacDonald 02/18/2012 at 10:27 PM #

    Tweet from Armstrong:

    I can’t report/confirm anything specific, but suffice it to say, NC State isn’t playing when it comes to today’s events

  2. BJD95 02/18/2012 at 10:27 PM #

    As expected. Total whitewash. There is only one solution, and that is to leave. It amazes me that the feeling isn’t unanimous and that action isn’t imminent.

    So…is Yow going to allow this slap in the face to stand unchallenged? Is Chancellor Woodson?

  3. WilmyWolf 02/18/2012 at 10:27 PM #

    This is like getting caught burning down a building and apologizing for wasting gasoline

  4. TheAliasTroll 02/18/2012 at 10:29 PM #

    So they think the issue is that it’s unfortunate that protocol wasn’t correctly followed when kicking them out.

    “Next time, Karl, with your pristine and admirable judgement, be sure to use home team management when kicking out NC State fans from their own arena.”

    how “unfortunate”

  5. Tau837 02/18/2012 at 10:31 PM #

    The obvious thing missing from the statement is a description of the excessive or extreme behavior. Because there was none.

  6. GAWolf 02/18/2012 at 10:33 PM #

    What happened in this world to someone being a man and admitting a mistake?

  7. graywolf 02/18/2012 at 10:35 PM #

    Time to head to the SEC if they will have us…..

  8. john of sparta 02/18/2012 at 10:35 PM #

    there you have it.
    Rule 10.
    NASCAR has 12-4-A.
    the sanctioning body
    ALWAYS reserves its
    right to do ANYthing.
    anytime and anywhere.

  9. Wulfpack 02/18/2012 at 10:36 PM #

    Where are you, Debbie Yow? What a complete slap in the face this is. We are totally inconsequential.

  10. 4PackinMB 02/18/2012 at 10:36 PM #

    GAWOLF, that is why we, the world, is in the shape its in…..greed and exactly what you said…honor is a thing of the past. Sad, really.

  11. vtpackfan 02/18/2012 at 10:37 PM #

    Stay classy ACC. See my post on the update article if you want to get a mental picture of how wrong the ACC office has got it and their protocol for keeping that way. Pathetic.

  12. choppack1 02/18/2012 at 10:37 PM #

    Maybe Tom o’brien should speak for the university..last time we got an opportunity like this tob and only tob knocked it out of the park.

  13. waxhaw 02/18/2012 at 10:38 PM #

    Do the rules apply to UNC and Duke fans?

  14. djackson1125 02/18/2012 at 10:39 PM #

    ^^ Great comment.TOB knows how to stand up for NC State!

  15. john of sparta 02/18/2012 at 10:41 PM #

    we wanted
    to know if KY
    had what it takes.
    here is her chance.

  16. backnine 02/18/2012 at 10:43 PM #

    I’m flabbergasted that the ACC’s office allowed such an empty and impotent “statement” to be issued, which is presumed to represent the conference’s position on this matter. As mentioned above, they didn’t even bother to offer any details on the supposed “behavioral” issues. They had all afternoon and evening to get the facts on this, and that’s the statement they put out?

    Reading this statement has made me even more angry than the actual incident. Before now I’ve not really been one to entertain the notion that NC State would be wise to look for a new home. But todays incident, and especially the ACC’s pedstrian response, which equates to a “shoulder shrug” has opened my eyes a bit. And perhaps that is what the ACC is angling for. I don’t know. Just can’t imagine all this happening to Duke or UNC the way it occured here. I think I’ve had enough.

  17. vtpackfan 02/18/2012 at 10:44 PM #

    Here it is since I actually learned to cut n paste on my smart phone:

    Since it will probably be spin sent out that will inevitably include that again State is some second rate program I’ll throw this out there. An acquaintance shared with me friday that an official who once coached his daughters middle school team was making a name for himself and shooting up the ranks of big time officiating. He approached the ACC about work and they told him he would have to wait 8 years until further consideration. Well, by his third year as an SEC official they thought so highly of him that he was one of the stripes doing last years SEC Championship game. Is it any wonder that the pieces of work doing ACC act like they do when they know everyone outside their cabal is getting the stiff arm?

  18. Dogbreath 02/18/2012 at 10:45 PM #

    Give it time folks. Debbie Yow is a pro. She’s not going to lash out at 10 pm on a Saturday night. This lame, offensive response by the league was strategically/deliberately dropped late at night.

    She will address this with the full fury of hellfire on Monday, is my guess.

    For the time being, leave her alone.

  19. Wufpacker 02/18/2012 at 10:47 PM #

    “I’m flabbergasted that the ACC’s office allowed such an empty and impotent “statement” to be issued”


  20. BJD95 02/18/2012 at 10:48 PM #

    It’s a total cabal. We need to get out, yesterday wouldn’t be too soon.

  21. gtspack 02/18/2012 at 10:49 PM #

    D YOW take it straight to the NCAA. This ACC nazi reign is starting to get national attention. It’s been on yahoo and espn.

  22. Wulfpack 02/18/2012 at 10:53 PM #

    Dogbreath, Yow has said she’s been in contact with the conference office this evening – in other words, they know she’s ticked off. And this is the kind of treatment we get, some BS rule 10 faulty procedure but our guy was still right junk. Whatever. Not mad at Yow. Appreciate her sticking up for us. But come on man, you know they are not listening, and that is the whole point. Sorry if I’m sour but it is the blatantly sad truth.

  23. 4PackinMB 02/18/2012 at 10:53 PM #

    I beg to ask….do the other 9 schools in this conference not see what is going on too? There is strength in numbers, why are we not all banding together? 2 against 10? As a united force, we can oust Johnny and his regime…..why are we not?

  24. wolfy85 02/18/2012 at 10:53 PM #

    I agree with Dogbreath, wait until Monday and launch this thing out of the park when the media can’t ignore it. Work on it hard all day tomorrow and make this a defining moment about how we will not stand for this. That is the intelligent approach that we should take.

  25. BureauOfMines 02/18/2012 at 10:54 PM #

    So basically they’re saying officials can ask the home game management to eject any fan whose behavior the official deems extreme or excessive and he is not publicly accountable to explain his decision. Suppose the home game management disagrees with the official? Can the official then go to the policeman as happened today? And what about police protocol? The cop was complicit in this today.

    And as for the official not following protocol, they’ll “re-communicate this policy with all officials to ensure proper protocol is followed.” Translation: That’s tough NC State. Get over it.

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