The Hits Just Keep Coming: UNC-CH presser tonight — 9 UNC players had papers written for them — By Butch’s nanny!??

Link to 99.9. Ovies and Gold about to interview IC’s Greg Barnes. Literally starting right now(4:10 pm).

Inside Carolina is reporting that

Officials from North Carolina uncovered the academic issues in its own review, pertaining to a tutor, and self-reported the findings to the NCAA.

Sources report the various players involved were relegated to the scout team at practice on Wednesday.

At this point in time, no other details have been given, nor have the names of the players involved.  Undoubtedly, that will come sometime soon, as the local media simply cannot ignore this third line of inquiry by the NCAA into problems with the UNC football program – even if the Carolina reported itself.

UPDATE: Joe Schad of ESPN reported: Marvin Austin, Bruce Carter and Robert Quinn were among the names involved.

Also, while rogue players interacting against NCAA rules is one thing, or an assistant coach’s potentially rule-breaking recruiting is another, this matter simply has to strike at the heart of the dreaded phrase: “lack of institutional control.”  After all, the heart of all academic institutions is not athletics, it is, well, academics, right?

Taken individually, the problems with the football program at UNC may seem small and inconsequential.  If one looks holistically, however, it certainly seems that the Tar Heel football program is operating outside the lines. Whether or not the NCAA agrees, whenever it releases its findings, remains to be seen.

Update: Mark Armstrong of WTVD Channel 11 has reported that a press conference will be held by UNC this evening:

Confirmed: big guns out tonight at UNC – Butch, Baddour, Thorp. This is not a drill.

@ABC11_WTVD is told the #UNC Newser will be about “everything” the NCAA Probe and the Academic Infractions

The event, which will have head football coach Butch Davis, Athletic Director Dick Baddour and Chancellor Holden Thorp has been termed “an update on the NCAA investiagation.”  Apparently, those who walk on the thick carpet in the halls of power at UNC have decided to break their self (not NCAA) imposed silence on the THREE (and counting) controversies surrounding Tar Heel football.

Also, one can also safely assume this: if Baddour and Holden are planning to share the stage with Butch Davis, then Davis is still in their good graces and that he has their backing…at least for the moment and at least in public.

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Something interesting to consider: The UNC System Honor Code.

B. Academic Dishonesty

1. Plagiarism in the form of deliberate or reckless representation of another’s words, thoughts, or ideas as one’s own without attribution in connection with submission of academic work, whether graded or otherwise.

2. Falsification, fabrication, or misrepresentation of data, other information, or citations in connection with an academic assignment, whether graded or otherwise.

3. Unauthorized assistance or unauthorized collaboration in connection with academic work, whether graded or otherwise.

4. Cheating on examinations or other academic assignments, whether graded or otherwise, including but not limited to the following: a. Using unauthorized materials and methods (notes, books, electronic information, telephonic or other forms of electronic communication, or other sources or methods), or
b. Representing another’s work as one’s own.

[….]

9. Assisting or aiding another to engage in acts of academic dishonesty prohibited by Section II.B.

Penalties?  They are there too:

4. Penalties of Record that are reflected both on a student’s academic transcript (during the period they remain in effect) and in a student’s disciplinary record s provided under governing policies, including the following:

a. Probation for a definite or indefinite period, including probation with associated conditions or requirements. Probation means that a student may remain at the University but may be required to satisfy specified conditions or requirements, report regularly to the Judicial Programs Officer, and be barred from holding any office or participating in any activity in which the student represents the University or University-recognized student organizations either within or outside the University community. The sanction of probation prohibits graduation until the period of probation has ended and the student has complied with all requirements as established by the Honor Court and the Judicial Programs Officer.

b. Suspension including the following forms of suspension with associated conditions or requirements:

i. Suspension for a Definite or Indefinite Period means that the student is removed from good standing and must leave the University for a definite or indefinite period. Suspension anticipates that the student may eventually return if applicable conditions are satisfied. Academic work completed at another institution during a period in which a student is under suspension from the University may not be transferred toward the degree, but applicable health care or insurance benefits may be continued.

ii. Permanent Suspension from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill means that the student is removed from good standing and must leave the University permanently without an expectation that the student may eventually return to the Chapel Hill campus. A student permanently suspended from the campus is not barred from seeking admission to another UNC system university, if that university wishes to permit such application following disclosure of the student’s disciplinary record at UNC-Chapel Hill. Permanent suspension may only be imposed with the concurrence of the Chancellor and will remain in effect until the Chancellor who imposed or approved the sanction or his or her successor concludes on the basis of the former student’s petition and any supportive documentation that the individual should be given a new opportunity to pursue higher education at UNC-Chapel Hill.

c. Expulsion if approved by the Chancellor. Expulsion means that a student is removed from the University permanently and may not be admitted to any UNC system university, unless and until the Chancellor who imposed or approved the sanction or his or her successor concludes on the basis of the former student’s petition and any supportive documentation that the individual should be given a new opportunity to pursue higher education within the UNC system.

In short it cannot be overstated that this strikes at the very core of the mission of any institute of higher learning: that is, to educate. If indeed there was a widespread pattern of academic fraud (and how can 6-9 football players having their schoolwork completed by a tutor be described as anything but that) then probation would not be an equitable penalty. Suspension or expulsion certainly would be.  A common, regular Joe Tar Heel would be out on his ear after being caught for this, and it would be absolutely incomprehensible if Marvin Austin or any other football hero weren’t given exactly the same treatment.  Call it what you like, but academic fraud is one of the worst of the worst sins a student can do in school, and it seems more and more than a good number of UNC football players have done exactly that.

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125 Responses to The Hits Just Keep Coming: UNC-CH presser tonight — 9 UNC players had papers written for them — By Butch’s nanny!??

  1. Daily Update 08/26/2010 at 4:05 PM #

    ^Who is Will Brinson?

    Also, Schad tweeted that MA is claiming Vontae Davis funded South Beach trips.

  2. GAWolf 08/26/2010 at 4:05 PM #

    Are y’all listening to this on 99.9? Greg Barnes says it’s all the agents’ fault… STILL!

    But for the agent investigation… this doesn’t happen as it’s a separate incident. (This being they got caught breaking rules, I guess.)

  3. GAWolf 08/26/2010 at 4:06 PM #

    I think WillBrinson used to be one of the guys that run Brahsome. He writes for Yahoo blogs, too, maybe?

  4. choppack1 08/26/2010 at 4:13 PM #

    Surely this presser isn’t “closure” or the investigation findings is it?

  5. old13 08/26/2010 at 4:13 PM #

    So now, how many suicides do we expect between UNC-CH and the News & Disturber (if it can still exist!)

  6. Alpha Wolf 08/26/2010 at 4:14 PM #

    Barnes said specifically that it was not closure, Chop.

  7. GoldenChain 08/26/2010 at 4:15 PM #

    I’m just having an ABCer multiple orgasm…and at my age that takes a LOT!

  8. Alpha Wolf 08/26/2010 at 4:15 PM #

    Mark Armstrong just tweeted that Joe Schad will be on WTVD 11 at 5pm.

    Joe’s an impartial voice in this.

  9. GoldenChain 08/26/2010 at 4:17 PM #

    I don’t see how in the world you keep The Chief out of this. Maybe the case could be made he didn’t know about the agents (wink/wink) but the fact that they are getting academic help?! NO WAY this was done in mass without someone from the staff being involved.

  10. highstick 08/26/2010 at 4:19 PM #

    I told you guys I would leave Chapel Hill yesterday in a state of havoc!!!!!!!!!!!

    Dang, why couldn’t I have stayed over for a couple of extra days!

  11. travelwolf 08/26/2010 at 4:21 PM #

    This is too good to believe… I’m pinching myself to wake up…

  12. highstick 08/26/2010 at 4:27 PM #

    Have any of you guys heard the other bomb? The reporter in Columbia that stirred up the crap with the hotel is now going to Charlotte to be the Panthers reporter with the Observer. He is awful too!!

    Spurrier wouldn’t talk to him anymore anyway and that started before any of this!! I just wonder if that was his parting shot to Spurrier!

  13. Alpha Wolf 08/26/2010 at 4:35 PM #

    Tweet from Joe Schad:

    schadjoe

    I do not believe that any UNC players will be suspended as of tonight; I believe the school will let the investigations run course schadjoe

    Even for academic fraud? My God they want to win badly over there.

  14. tuckerdorm1983 08/26/2010 at 4:38 PM #

    the fish stinks all the way from its head to the very end of its tail. The only way to get rid of the smell is to throw out the whole thing.

  15. durhamwolf19 08/26/2010 at 4:45 PM #

    I wonder what masterpiece article Jim Jenkins or AC Snow will pen tomorrow for old NCU.

  16. Alpha Wolf 08/26/2010 at 4:47 PM #

    UPDATE

    Marvin Austin, Bruce Carter and Robert Quinn are three of the names according to Joe Schad.

    Marvin was eating cupcakes and partying, I guess.

  17. graywolf 08/26/2010 at 4:56 PM #

    If this were NC State we would have received the death penalty. I hope the hits keep on coming. Looks like Carolina will be looking for a new coach and staff real soon. Couldn’t have happened at a better time…….can money and cheating buy you a championship?

  18. TheCOWDOG 08/26/2010 at 4:58 PM #

    No suspensions would mean that they’re goin’ all in. Can’t fault ’em for that.

    In fact, kinda stout that they haven’t begun to eat their own. Yet.

    However, being demoted to the scout squad enmass is not a form of punishment. It is a harbinger.

  19. Mr. Wuf 08/26/2010 at 5:08 PM #

    :popcorn:

  20. TAEdisonHokie 08/26/2010 at 5:11 PM #

    Here’s some more information from Joe Schad

    Sources: UNC investigating academics

    QUOTES:

    “North Carolina expanded the inquiry into its football program to include allegations of academic impropriety involving a former tutor writing papers for players, sources said Thursday.

    The sources said the Tar Heels relegated at least nine players, to the scout team on Wednesday as a result of the academic portion of the investigation. The group included players who were questioned as part of the NCAA’s inquiry related to agents and trips to Miami.

    Source said starting defenisve tackle Marvin Austin, starting defensive end Robert Quinn and starting linebacker Bruce Carter were among the players who were relegated to scout team.

    North Carolina scheduled a 7:30 p.m. ET news conference to provide an update on the NCAA’s investigation. Chancellor Holden Thorp, athletic director Dick Baddour and coach Butch Davis are all expected to attend.

    The school is unlikely to announce the suspensions of any involved players at tonight’s news conference.

    The NCAA is involved in the academic angle of the investigation as well.

    Previously, the NCAA’s investigation focused on star defensive lineman Marvin Austin and starting wide receiver Greg Little and their contacts with agents and trips to South Florida and California.

    Two sources who were interviewed by the NCAA said that Austin has said Miami Dolphins cornerback Vontae Davis helped fund some of his expenditures to South Florida. A source close to Davis said that he is a good friend of Austin’s but would prefer to steer clear of an NCAA interview.

    Joe Schad is a college football reporter for ESPN.”

  21. highstick 08/26/2010 at 5:23 PM #

    When do they extend the investigation to the basketball team?

  22. old13 08/26/2010 at 5:24 PM #

    HeHe! If unck doesn’t suspend/expell those who cheated, they lose all credibility of their “image!” Couldn’t happen to a better bunch of pius hypocrits!

  23. TheCOWDOG 08/26/2010 at 5:35 PM #

    Holy crap! Black Helicopters over Keenan? Overly eager female tutor?

    You go channel 11.

  24. Plz2BStateFan 08/26/2010 at 5:42 PM #

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