The Hits Just Keep Coming: UNC-CH presser tonight — 9 UNC players had papers written for them — By Butch’s nanny!??

Link to 99.9. Ovies and Gold about to interview IC’s Greg Barnes. Literally starting right now(4:10 pm).

Inside Carolina is reporting that

Officials from North Carolina uncovered the academic issues in its own review, pertaining to a tutor, and self-reported the findings to the NCAA.

Sources report the various players involved were relegated to the scout team at practice on Wednesday.

At this point in time, no other details have been given, nor have the names of the players involved.  Undoubtedly, that will come sometime soon, as the local media simply cannot ignore this third line of inquiry by the NCAA into problems with the UNC football program – even if the Carolina reported itself.

UPDATE: Joe Schad of ESPN reported: Marvin Austin, Bruce Carter and Robert Quinn were among the names involved.

Also, while rogue players interacting against NCAA rules is one thing, or an assistant coach’s potentially rule-breaking recruiting is another, this matter simply has to strike at the heart of the dreaded phrase: “lack of institutional control.”  After all, the heart of all academic institutions is not athletics, it is, well, academics, right?

Taken individually, the problems with the football program at UNC may seem small and inconsequential.  If one looks holistically, however, it certainly seems that the Tar Heel football program is operating outside the lines. Whether or not the NCAA agrees, whenever it releases its findings, remains to be seen.

Update: Mark Armstrong of WTVD Channel 11 has reported that a press conference will be held by UNC this evening:

Confirmed: big guns out tonight at UNC – Butch, Baddour, Thorp. This is not a drill.

@ABC11_WTVD is told the #UNC Newser will be about “everything” the NCAA Probe and the Academic Infractions

The event, which will have head football coach Butch Davis, Athletic Director Dick Baddour and Chancellor Holden Thorp has been termed “an update on the NCAA investiagation.”  Apparently, those who walk on the thick carpet in the halls of power at UNC have decided to break their self (not NCAA) imposed silence on the THREE (and counting) controversies surrounding Tar Heel football.

Also, one can also safely assume this: if Baddour and Holden are planning to share the stage with Butch Davis, then Davis is still in their good graces and that he has their backing…at least for the moment and at least in public.



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Something interesting to consider: The UNC System Honor Code.

B. Academic Dishonesty

1. Plagiarism in the form of deliberate or reckless representation of another’s words, thoughts, or ideas as one’s own without attribution in connection with submission of academic work, whether graded or otherwise.

2. Falsification, fabrication, or misrepresentation of data, other information, or citations in connection with an academic assignment, whether graded or otherwise.

3. Unauthorized assistance or unauthorized collaboration in connection with academic work, whether graded or otherwise.

4. Cheating on examinations or other academic assignments, whether graded or otherwise, including but not limited to the following: a. Using unauthorized materials and methods (notes, books, electronic information, telephonic or other forms of electronic communication, or other sources or methods), or
b. Representing another’s work as one’s own.


9. Assisting or aiding another to engage in acts of academic dishonesty prohibited by Section II.B.

Penalties?  They are there too:

4. Penalties of Record that are reflected both on a student’s academic transcript (during the period they remain in effect) and in a student’s disciplinary record s provided under governing policies, including the following:

a. Probation for a definite or indefinite period, including probation with associated conditions or requirements. Probation means that a student may remain at the University but may be required to satisfy specified conditions or requirements, report regularly to the Judicial Programs Officer, and be barred from holding any office or participating in any activity in which the student represents the University or University-recognized student organizations either within or outside the University community. The sanction of probation prohibits graduation until the period of probation has ended and the student has complied with all requirements as established by the Honor Court and the Judicial Programs Officer.

b. Suspension including the following forms of suspension with associated conditions or requirements:

i. Suspension for a Definite or Indefinite Period means that the student is removed from good standing and must leave the University for a definite or indefinite period. Suspension anticipates that the student may eventually return if applicable conditions are satisfied. Academic work completed at another institution during a period in which a student is under suspension from the University may not be transferred toward the degree, but applicable health care or insurance benefits may be continued.

ii. Permanent Suspension from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill means that the student is removed from good standing and must leave the University permanently without an expectation that the student may eventually return to the Chapel Hill campus. A student permanently suspended from the campus is not barred from seeking admission to another UNC system university, if that university wishes to permit such application following disclosure of the student’s disciplinary record at UNC-Chapel Hill. Permanent suspension may only be imposed with the concurrence of the Chancellor and will remain in effect until the Chancellor who imposed or approved the sanction or his or her successor concludes on the basis of the former student’s petition and any supportive documentation that the individual should be given a new opportunity to pursue higher education at UNC-Chapel Hill.

c. Expulsion if approved by the Chancellor. Expulsion means that a student is removed from the University permanently and may not be admitted to any UNC system university, unless and until the Chancellor who imposed or approved the sanction or his or her successor concludes on the basis of the former student’s petition and any supportive documentation that the individual should be given a new opportunity to pursue higher education within the UNC system.

In short it cannot be overstated that this strikes at the very core of the mission of any institute of higher learning: that is, to educate. If indeed there was a widespread pattern of academic fraud (and how can 6-9 football players having their schoolwork completed by a tutor be described as anything but that) then probation would not be an equitable penalty. Suspension or expulsion certainly would be.  A common, regular Joe Tar Heel would be out on his ear after being caught for this, and it would be absolutely incomprehensible if Marvin Austin or any other football hero weren’t given exactly the same treatment.  Call it what you like, but academic fraud is one of the worst of the worst sins a student can do in school, and it seems more and more than a good number of UNC football players have done exactly that.

UNC Scandal

125 Responses to The Hits Just Keep Coming: UNC-CH presser tonight — 9 UNC players had papers written for them — By Butch’s nanny!??

  1. Daily Update 08/26/2010 at 2:18 PM #

    Wow. All you can say is wow. I bet there is more coming.

  2. islandbreeze 08/26/2010 at 2:20 PM #

    4-6 players. lol.

  3. Wolf1975 08/26/2010 at 2:28 PM #

    Wow, though does this really shock anyone, I really hope they get hammered for this, and does anyone really think that all this stuff ends with football….Roy is praying they don’t turn the microscope his way.

  4. Wolfman646 08/26/2010 at 2:32 PM #

    So does this open up the NCAA’s investigation to other departments? Right now, it’s just the Gambling & Agents Division that seems to be conducting the investigation. This revelation could bring some more NCAA folks to the party.

  5. Wolf1975 08/26/2010 at 2:33 PM #

    And lord knows if it were NCSU they would have already be putting together a grand jury, sanctions for bribing players, vacating wins…there’s something to be said for quitly building a program the right way, geting quality kids. It takes time and I for one am willing to wait.

  6. Sweet jumper 08/26/2010 at 2:40 PM #

    A poster on said UNC=University of Non-Compliance!
    Well played!

  7. Old MacDonald 08/26/2010 at 2:42 PM #

    There is also gambling going on in Casablanca.

  8. mikeD 08/26/2010 at 2:43 PM #

    Anyone think this could possibly be a ploy by unc-ch to delay the finish of the investigation so potentially suspended players will be available for LSU? Even if they lose all their wins later on, their fans would still say “We actually beat them and had the better team even though the NCAA doesn’t think so”.

    This is a calculated move by their administration, and I’m trying to find the motive.

  9. TAEdisonHokie 08/26/2010 at 2:49 PM #

    LOL!! Just got reported on the Hokie boards, too!

  10. LRM 08/26/2010 at 2:51 PM #

    They still have the prettiest pine trees in all the land.

  11. Daily Update 08/26/2010 at 2:52 PM #

    mikeD: Ain’t no way the players involved with this are playing against LSU.

  12. Old MacDonald 08/26/2010 at 2:53 PM #

    “Anyone think this could possibly be a ploy by unc-ch to delay the finish of the investigation so potentially suspended players will be available for LSU?”

    Uh. No.

  13. JEOH2 08/26/2010 at 2:54 PM #

    Its less a ploy MikeD, then it is a classic political maneuver to get out in front of the story and own it before the NCAA and the media does…

  14. baxter 08/26/2010 at 2:55 PM #

    If there is even any doubt, players aren’t going to be playing in any game till they are cleared. Does no good to win with ineligible players.

  15. TAEdisonHokie 08/26/2010 at 2:58 PM #

    JEOH2 – I’m betting the NCAA found this, too, and gave UNC the option the act like they “self-reported” the violations.

    Can’t wait to see them “self-report” their recruiting violations!

    Pop the corn…it’s going to be a great show!

  16. choppack1 08/26/2010 at 2:58 PM #

    Wow. This is starting to look VERY bad for UNC.

  17. MatSci94 08/26/2010 at 2:59 PM #

    ‘breaking news’ bit on says that the practice was closed to media today. So much for ‘getting in front of the story’…

  18. RickJ 08/26/2010 at 3:00 PM #

    Where are Spangler and a couple of SBI agents when you need them?

  19. mikeD 08/26/2010 at 3:02 PM #

    As per Wolfman’s thought, academics isn’t in the scope of the current investigation. This means either the current investigators are snooping around in an area they aren’t too concerned with, or there was talk about it.

    Like I said before, just trying to see motive besides saying “Hey we cheated here too in case you were wondering.” That’s not the reason their administration decided to do this.

  20. coach13 08/26/2010 at 3:03 PM #

    More…more!!! I was anxious for resolution, but the longer they look the more they keep coming up with, so I say take your time. Let us know what you find around November.

  21. StateFans 08/26/2010 at 3:03 PM #

    Wouldn’t academic & tutor program issues would tend to stretch into all programs?

  22. Alpha Wolf 08/26/2010 at 3:04 PM #

    ^ No worries, Elaine Marshall is on the job.

    Besides, the SBI has its own problems lately.

    (please read that in your best sarcastic voice.)

  23. Alpha Wolf 08/26/2010 at 3:06 PM #

    “academics isn’t in the scope of the current investigation. ”

    This is true, Mike, but it definitely brings the violations and compliance people into play. Currently, only the “agents” team is involved so far as we know.

    Let’s hope they aren’t the same ones that let Tennessee scoot on their academic fraud some years back.

    Or that they have a man on the inside there too.

  24. Daily Update 08/26/2010 at 3:06 PM #

    LOL. Ovies and Gold talking about Statefansnation on their radio show.

  25. Alpha Wolf 08/26/2010 at 3:07 PM #

    ^ What did we do this time?

    Lead the ABC banshees?

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