Lee’s Last Shot at an ACCeptable Achievement?

Since the beginning of the 1992-1993 athletics season, NC State University is the only full-time BCS affiliated institution that has failed to win single conference championship in football, men’s basketball, women’s basketball or baseball.

Today marks the start of the 57th Atlantic Coast Conference Basketball Tournament, and perhaps the last of almost 57 attempts for a Lee Fowler-led Athletics Department to win a conference championship in a ‘major’ team sport.

To more deeply understand my point, you should click on this link that will take you to one of our most popular entries of all time – ‘The Unholy Trinity’ (which has now become the “Unholy Duo” as Iowa State successfully removed their name from the list this football season). For additional support, you can’t miss this graphical look at ACC & National Championships.

In short, over the last four years, NC State and the University of Colorado are the only two BCS schools that have experienced four straight losing seasons in football while also failing to land a single berth in at least one NCAA Men’s Basketball Tournament.

Some other noteworthy ‘accomplishments’ of NC State’s Athletics Department since the calendar turned to the year 2000 and overlapping Lee Fowler’s ‘leadership’ as NC State’s Athletics Director include the following:

  • NC State is one of only four BCS schools that have failed to win a conference title in any of the four major revenue or high profile sports – football, men’s basketball, women’s basketball, baseball along with Texas Tech, Arkansas, and South Florida (who didn’t join the Big East until 2005).
  • The Wolfpack’s athletics program is one of only sixteen BCS schools that has failed to win a single team national championship as 50 of the 66 BCS schools (75.8%) have won at least one team national championship in the past ten years.
    • Both Kentucky & Kansas State are on that list have great chances to remove themselves in this year’s NCAA Basketball Tournament.
  • After NC State failed to advance to a BCS Bowl game this year we failed to remove ourselves from the historical list of only 8 BCS schools – and the only ACC school – that has never played in any of the four BCS bowls (Rose, Fiesta, Sugar and Orange). Since Lee Fowler has been AD in Raleigh, five different ACC programs have represented the conference in BCS games including non-powers Maryland, Georgia Tech and Wake Forest. (Must be the facilities)

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StateFansNation is excited to share with you that as Sidney Lowe’s Wolfpack Basketball team attempts to make history in Greensboro as the lowest seeded team to win an ACC Basketball Championship, NC State may finally be moving towards an attempt to raise the University up from being one of the worst major college athletics programs in the country.

If some of the most widely-known ‘secrets’ in recent memory hold to form, it appears that Lee Fowler may finally be on his to a more permanent perch at his Lake Gaston house without being funded by the taxpayers of the State of North Carolina.

Rumors have evolved for months around Lee Fowler’s potential, and long overdue departure from NC State. We have allowed some of these conversations to play out on our message boards as we want our readers to always feel free to discuss all topics and want our community forums to be provider of significant value for our readership. But, today, we feel as though it is time to bring the rumors we have been hearing to light with a little more clarity, context and commentary than what you may have picked up on the forums. You have the right to choose to accept or reject the following information and commentary as you see fit:

  • You may remember a heightened amount of chatter and discussion about Fowler’s job security just over a year ago as we headed into Final Four weekend of 2009. This ‘chatter’ was definitely more than rumor and innuendo as some of the Ministers of Propaganda from the ‘State Sunshiners Squad’ tried to report to the masses on messages boards.
  • At that time, The Board of Trustees finally had enough support to endorse a push on Fowler and for the first time in his tenure, spineless Jim Oblinger had indicated that he would not fight the attempt to work with Fowler to craft a mutually agreed upon exit from NC State.
  • Note the point of ‘mutually agreed upon’ exit. You need to remember that in April of 2007, NCSU’s Board of Einsteins Trustees inexplicably extended Lee Fowler’s contract through 2013. We couldn’t understand this decision at the time; and it looks even crazier with the benefit of a few more years of pain and suffering. So, problems arose in preliminary conversations as Fowler’s love for money is very and dictated that he wasn’t going to leave easily.
  • Fowler has made himself a candidate for at least a half dozen other jobs since he has been at NC State and (obviously) nobody will hire him. Early in his time in Raleigh he took swings at jobs like Tennessee, Ohio State, Georgia and even Indiana a few years ago. In recent years, Fowler has quietly been turned down by some smaller schools.
  • At his age and with his laughable reputation amongst sports administrators married to his miserable record of few achievements, even Fowler must recognize that the odds are very low that he could ever secure get another job…especially if he were ‘fired’. So, if NC State wanted him gone then we would have to pay him big bucks for his contract because when he leaves his career is effectively over. (Doesn’t it make you feel great that YOU have had the pleasure of this guy running your department all of this time because nobody else in the country was dumb enough to hire him? Can we all thank our Board of Trustees one more time for their stewardship and leadership of our University?)
  • The financial and political will to buyout an Athletics Director is not something that most administrators want to deal with at any point in time, let alone in the middle of an economic recession.
  • Then the Mary Easely-Jim Oblinger-McQueen Campbell-Board of Trustees scandals broke and the heat lifted off Lee Fowler. Figurative heat, of course; there was plenty of heat on him as he tanned himself of the warm waters of Lake Gaston all of last summer.
  • Enter interim Chancellor Woodward. It soon became clear that if Woodward had been made the permanent Chancellor that Fowler would have been one of the first changes made alongside Tom Stafford and the public fiasco with Lennie Barton. But, Chancellor Woodward did not feel it was his place to deal with this major issue at the University.
  • A big hole in the story emerges as little is known about the recent interaction of the Board and the interim Chancellor and new Chancellor Woodson. But, if the story holds, the decision was made for Fowler to be gone before Chancellor Woodson arrives on campus.
    • We have heard that Chancellor Woodson is scheduled to start at/near the very beginning of April.
  • Supposedly there is/was a date in late February/early March that served as some kind of trigger for Fowler that has some form of financial significance to him. This date was key in his acceptance of an agreement to be able to position his departure as a ‘retirement’/’resignation’ instead of a firing as it should have been.
    • SFN’s conjecture here is that this special date is somehow tied/linked to state retirement benefits that may come at a ten year anniversary of hire. We don’t know all of the specifics of pension formulas, etc; but, this conjecture makes sense when you consider that Fowler started at NC State on September 5, 2000. So, his 10 year anniversary is coming soon. State of North Carolina policy allows for the rolling accumulation of sick leave and vacation. And, you can bet that Fowler has never claimed a day in his life. So, it is very plausible that he has enough days ‘banked’ for him to step away as many as six or seven months ahead of his ten year anniversary.
  • For the better part of the last month, the frequency and consistency of rumors related to a Lee Fowler departure has significantly intensified. Many different sources have shared with SFN that Lee Fowler will ‘retire/resign’ as NC State’s Athletics Director at some in the very near future. The scenarios around Fowler’s ultimate departure usually takes the form of one of the two of the following:
  • (1) Some of the rumors have Fowler departing NC State in May, coinciding with the end of the school year. This version centers on the premise that Fowler has been given an ultimatum to have found a new job and hit the bricks by the end of the year…or else. This would have Fowler riding into the sunset with another of SFN’s most disliked NC State administrators, Tom Stafford.
  • (2) The more intense and immediate version of the rumors have Fowler ‘retiring’ next week as the Wolfpack’s basketball season is expected to be completed. The most widely speculated and most logical date of departure would be a Friday afternoon announcement on March 19th as the news and attention to the story would be significantly diluted by the NCAA Tournament first round.

Please note that we are not proclaiming the above bullets as 100% fact or are we proclaiming that these scenarios will ultimately play themselves out in reality as they have been ‘pre-planned. We have not confirmed these stories enough to ‘report’ them to you as ‘news’. But, we do finally feel comfortable enough in the strength of our sources and the momentum of what we are hearing to lay all of this out so that you can form your own set of conclusions.

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A particularly interesting observation of the recent developments in this scenario stems from the fact that we were told much of this timeline in November & December of last year – long before the chatter has started to elevate amongst NC State fans and on some message boards. But, what we were told months ago has picked up momentum as the weeks have passed and the story has remained remarkably consistent despite coming from many different sources.

Additionally, Lee Fowler’s own behavior has served to add to the speculation as he has been conspicuously absent from some key University events including a private reception to welcome Chancellor Woodson after his introduction and the NC State Alumni Association Evening of Stars (at the end of January).

It certainly didn’t help us douse the flames of these rumors when a close friend shared the following observation with us last month:

Maybe totally unrelated, but I have noticed that he has not had the NC State Flag waving in front of his house since Christmas. Before that, it seemed it was always there. A Christmas flag waved during the holidays, but no flag is there now. Can’t say whether the flagpost on the wall is still there.

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Lastly, you MUST listen the audio we linked this morning of Taylor Zarzour’s new radio program.

In the segment, Zarzour takes a very different tack than other local media members and defiantly proclaims that NC State needs to fire Athletics Director, Lee Fowler.

My uneducated and uninformed analysis of the boldness of Zarzour’s comments is — he knows something.

Think about this for a moment. There is no way that any member of the media chooses to begin their first local show calling for the firing of the local Athletics Director – the one that has the power to butter Zarzour’s bread and provide or block access to members of the NC State community.

Zarzour would be committing a form of professional suicide by coming right out of the gate with that kind of talk…

unless, he had some reason to believe that Lee Fowler wasn’t going to be around very much longer, anyway.

At that point, Zarzour would be playing this thing MASTERFULLY as he can immediately position himself as a both a prophet and an independently free-thinker who is not in the pocket of ‘the man’. What would he have to lose by way of relationships at NC State if there isn’t going to be a Lee Fowler to piss off in the very near future?

I guess only time will tell…

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83 Responses to Lee’s Last Shot at an ACCeptable Achievement?

  1. tvp1 03/11/2010 at 2:49 PM #

    And this is why SFN is the best NC State sports website. Thank you folks. Let’s just sit tight, hope, and pray.

  2. Clarksa 03/11/2010 at 2:50 PM #

    When did UNC-CH play in the Rose/Fiesta/Sugar/Orange bowl? When did Duke?

  3. old13 03/11/2010 at 2:55 PM #

    Duke played in the Rose Bowl in the 40s. In fact, it was played in Durham due to fears of a Japanese attack on the Left Coast. I believe that Duke has also played in the Sugar and Orange Bowls back in the 50s/early 60s when they were a FB power.

  4. StateFans 03/11/2010 at 2:57 PM #

    The entry has been updated for a clarity on the statistical issue. Sorry for the confusion —

    Duke played in the 1938 Rose Bowl, the 1941 Rose Bowl, the 1944 Sugar Bowl, the 1954 Orange Bowl and the 1957 Orange Bowl

    Carolina played in the 1947 and 1949 Sugar Bowls.

  5. packpowerfan 03/11/2010 at 3:05 PM #

    I nearly threw up, this post excited me so much. I’ll refer to what everyone else knows is true. In any other job, if you sucked THIS MUCH ASS, you would be fired, and probably be escorted to the Mexican border to wreak havoc on a different country.

    I understand the whole “I don’t have a personal problem with Lee” thing, but frankly, I do. He has, almost, single-handedly wrecked what was left of an already crumbling athletic department. His personal laziness and apathetic nature toward his own career is disgusting. He’s everything that is wrong with our great University. I love NC State, and the fact that the man at the helm of such a proud athletic tradition could care less about the damage he is doing really makes my blood boil.

    Lee, good bye and good riddance.

  6. jay95 03/11/2010 at 3:05 PM #

    PLEASE let all these rumors be true!!!! Lee Fowler MUST GO!!

  7. Clarksa 03/11/2010 at 3:10 PM #

    “After NC State failed to advance to a BCS Bowl game this year we failed to remove ourselves from the list of only 8 BCS schools – and the only ACC school – that has never played in any of the four BCS bowls (Rose, Fiesta, Sugar and Orange).”

    Lee Fowler sucks as an AD no doubt he should have been fired long agon.

    However, the statement above is not true. UNC and Duke (and State) have never played in those four bowls when they were considered a “BCS” bowl. “BCS” bowls have only been in place since 1998. Duke played a Rose Bowl game in Durham…but it wasn’t a BCS bowl. Who gives a damn what happened in the 30’s, 40’s, and 50’s. What’s “embarrassing” is that WAKE has played in a BCS game, and we have not.

    SFN: Already figured out your point and moved to fix it before you posted this. Thanks for bringing it to our attention.

  8. StateFans 03/11/2010 at 3:12 PM #

    I don’t have a personal problem with the crack whore living under the bridge in downtown Raleigh. That doesn’t mean that she should be our Athletics Director.

    But, I know a lot of people that have personal problems with Fowler.

    In fact, most people I know that work with him or around him or deal with him on campus have personal problems with him as they think he is a class A jerk. So, if that is important to you…then you’ve got another reason to be on board with a change.

  9. Alpha Wolf 03/11/2010 at 3:15 PM #

    NC State may finally be moving towards an attempt to raise the University up from being one of the worst major college athletics programs in the country.

    This is not speculation or exaggeration. It bears repetition:

    Since the beginning of the 1992-1993 athletics season, NC State University is the ONLY full-time BCS affiliated institution that has failed to win single conference championship in football, men’s basketball, women’s basketball or baseball.

    That’s not what I call success.

    It’s not what I call acceptable, either.

    Were I a stockholder in a public company that had such a miserable record of competing in the marketplace, I would want the CEO fired. Why? Because he had failed.

    And guess what….Lee Fowler has failed.

  10. theTHRILL 03/11/2010 at 3:19 PM #

    I understand that none of this is set in stone, but my hopes are up now and I’ll never forgive SFN if Fowler stays.

    Great, well laid out piece.

  11. packpowerfan 03/11/2010 at 3:22 PM #

    Haha SFN, his poor results merit him being fired, first and foremost. I was simply stating that I feel we as State fans, every one of us, has a legit personal problem with the man.

    I’ve been campaigning this as a student since my freshman year, but the true core of student involvement has been too small to have a “brickyard movement.” I’m just glad that something is finally happening. I’ve got a 14 year-old sister who wants to come to State, and maybe…just maybe…she will have an athletic program to be proud of when she gets here.

  12. thekind 03/11/2010 at 3:22 PM #

    Hey Fowl-up,
    Good riddance and take the Board of Trustees with you!

  13. Cardiff Giant 03/11/2010 at 3:26 PM #

    This is a very important story that, candidly, needs some typo-checking given the attention it will probably receive.

  14. RegularExpression 03/11/2010 at 3:27 PM #

    I’m getting giddy with excitement! Regarding the 10 year mark being of some financial significance, that is great point. Maybe a state employee can clarify that for us.

    I will say that in my first job out of college I worked for an insurance company that offered a pension. After 5 years on the job I was fully vested in the pension, although they considered you to have 5 years of service at 4 years and 6 months of actual work time. If the same scenario holds true for the state, Lee would need 9 years and 6 months of work time, which he would have hit on March 5th.

  15. choppack1 03/11/2010 at 3:35 PM #

    To be fair, Lee’s only been here for almost 10 of those years…but the fact is, he hasn’t “moved the ball forward”.

    Under his tutelage, we’ve seen no progress in the Director’s Cup. We haven’t hung any banners.

    Translation – there’s nothing to lose by letting him go.

    The one positive to having Lee around is that evidently those who work for him, like and respect him. I’d hate to lose a very successful coach because they didn’t like the AD – but quite frankly, at least on paper, that’s not really an issue is it?

  16. ncsufan13 03/11/2010 at 3:37 PM #
  17. TaxWolf 03/11/2010 at 3:48 PM #

    The other day my boss, who is from AZ asked why our state had such budget issues and we responded with the following: engrained tradition of graft in eastern NC, the pension sysetm, and the fact that you can have a state job for life if you keep your nose clean whether you’re competent (I have many friends who are-no offense meant to any of you) or not. I should have just showed him a picture of Jed since he now seems to be a perfect example of all 3.

  18. packalum44 03/11/2010 at 3:49 PM #

    I certainly hope Woodson is the man hiring his replacement. I don’t think his “Stake in the Ground” comments can be emphasized enough. The man is a leader and is already setting the “Tone at the Top”. Corporate culture is the single most important characteristic of a company/institution.

  19. wolfholla 03/11/2010 at 3:53 PM #

    “NC State is one of only four BCS schools that have failed to win a conference title in any of the four major revenue or high profile sports – football, men’s basketball, women’s basketball, baseball along with Texas Tech, Arkansas, and South Florida (who didn’t join the Big East until 2005).”

    Do you mean while Lee Fowler has been AD or are you referring to a specific time period? I don’t know about women’s basketball but BC hasn’t won in baseball, football or men’s b ball since they joined in 2005. Virgina (last year) and Clemson (2006) each have one baseball title.

    Since Lee Fowler has been AD, NCSU has been runner up in basketball 3 times.

    The fact that Kentucky and Kansas State is included in the second list kind of diminishes its significance. These two schools have some of the best run athletics depts in the country. Should their ADs be fired? I give you kudos though for at least admitting KY and KS are on the list. A dishonest person wouldn’t have admitted that.

    The BCS knock applies to every AD that has ever worked at State.

  20. Thinkpack17 03/11/2010 at 4:03 PM #

    Great story. Great job.

  21. Par Shooter 03/11/2010 at 4:07 PM #

    Not to get ahead of ourselves too much but assuming that this comes to pass I hope the new AD takes quick stock of his direct reports and immediately tells Annabelle Myers to hit the bricks. One intangible factor to consider in terms of replacements is whether any top-notch candidates have any type of stroke with the head basketball coach at UT.

  22. one00_proof 03/11/2010 at 4:08 PM #

    Wow… it’s already that time, it seems just yesterday we were trolling the forums for when SFN was saying something “may” happen in the coming months.

    I swear, they might just party all night on Hillsborough for this.

  23. packfan03 03/11/2010 at 4:18 PM #

    I almost cried when I read this – it moved me that much. My only concern of Lee Fowler’s exit, is the exit of @Lee_Folwer.

    This is the kind of hope I need before watching our game tonight.

  24. rexineffect 03/11/2010 at 4:29 PM #

    “In short, NC State and the University of Colorado are the only two BCS schools that have experienced four straight losing seasons in football while also failing to land a berth in at least one NCAA Men’s Basketball Tournament.”

    In all fairness, one of those football seasons resulted in an even record for the regular season. Accepting a bowl bid and falling below the .500 mark with a subsequent loss is tough, but “technically” this strengthens the article. Going into the ACC tournament with an even record and losing the first game would technically keep you out of the NIT, but one more win doesn’t really help.

  25. sautz 03/11/2010 at 4:29 PM #

    wolfholla, read the article and it will miraculously show you the time period (and before you ask before Googling BC was Big East co-champs in football and won the women’s Big East touney in 2004):

    “Some other noteworthy ‘accomplishments’ spanning the decade of Lee Fowler’s ‘leadership’ as NC State’s Athletics Director include the following:

    * NC State is one of only four BCS schools that have failed to win a conference title in any of the four major revenue or high profile sports – football, men’s basketball, women’s basketball, baseball along with Texas Tech, Arkansas, and South Florida (who didn’t join the Big East until 2005).”

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