The Unholy Trilogy and Other Groups of Distinction

On a blog entry on Buster Sports, author Dave Nathan has discovered what he believes to be the three worst college football and basketball teams from 2006 to 2009. There are three BCS schools that have had 3 straight losing seasons in football while also missing the NCAA men’s basketball tournament. Of course, NC State is a member of this “unholy trilogy” along with Colorado and Iowa St.

I had done a similar entry in May of last year about BCS schools that didn’t make a bowl game, the men’s basketball tourney and the women’s basketball tourney and BCS schools that didn’t go to a bowl or the men’s tourney.

NC State is also one of six BCS schools that did not go to a bowl and also didn’t make the men’s tourney each of the last two seasons. Interestingly, there was one school in each conference.
• NC State
• Syracuse
• Northwestern
• Iowa St
• Washington
• Ole Miss

A quick update on this group: NC State, Northwestern and Ole Miss went to bowl games last year while Syracuse and Washington made the big dance, leaving Iowa St as the only BCS school to not go to a bowl and the men’s tourney each of the last 3 years.

There are some other groups of distinction where NC State is a member. Did you know that NC State is one of eight BCS schools (and the only ACC school) that has never played in any of the four BCS bowls (Rose, Fiesta, Sugar and Orange)? Those eight schools are:
• NC State
• Iowa St
• Rutgers
• South Carolina
• Texas Tech
• Vanderbilt
• UConn*
• South Florida*
* didn’t join Big East until 2005

Here is another group, since Lee Fowler has been AD (from 2000-2001), NC State is one of 16 BCS schools that have not won a team national championship:
• NC State
• Virginia Tech
• Pitt
• Rutgers
• Purdue
• Iowa St
• Kansas St
• Missouri
• Texas Tech
• Washington St
• Kentucky
• Mississippi St
• Ole Miss
• Cincinnati*
• Louisville*
• South Florida*
* didn’t join Big East until 2005

That means that 50 of the 66 BCS schools (75.8%) have won at least one team national championship in the past nine years. Of course, NC State is in the bottom 25%.

Although, in the category of national titles NC State is one of 14 schools to have won multiple national championships in men’s basketball.

There are two other groups that NC State is a member of that my fellow stat major ruffles31 has researched. In the nine years where Lee Fowler has been AD, there are four BCS schools (and only 3 full-time) that have failed to win a conference title in any of the four major revenue or high profile sports (football, men’s basketball, women’s basketball, baseball):
• NC State
• Texas Tech
• Arkansas
• South Florida*

If you take that analysis a little further, you will find an even more exclusive group (although the time frame was selected for more personal reasons than you might usually do for an analysis). Since myself, ruffles31 and the rest of the NCSU Class of 1996 came to campus at the beginning of the 1992-1993 season there is one full-time BCS school that has not won a single conference title in football, men’s basketball, women’s basketball or baseball:

NC State

If I had gone to any other BCS school (other than South Florida*) I would have at least one t-shirt in a drawer somewhere with the name of my alma mater and the word “Champion” underneath.

State’s last conference title in the major revenue sports was baseball in 1991-1992, coincidently the season before I became a State fan.

So Dave Nathan, I take your Unholy Trinity and raise you to the Impossible One. Just to repeat:

From the beginning of the 1992-1993 season, NC State is the only full-time BCS school that has not won a single conference title in football, men’s basketball, women’s basketball or baseball.

Take that Colorado and Iowa State.

About WV Wolf

Graduated from NCSU in 1996 with a degree in statistics. Born and inbred in West "By God" Virginia and now live in Raleigh where I spend my time watching the Wolfpack, the Mountaineers and the Carolina Hurricanes as well as making bar graphs for SFN. I'm @wvncsu on the Twitter machine.

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56 Responses to The Unholy Trilogy and Other Groups of Distinction

  1. packalum44 10/29/2009 at 6:28 PM #

    Noah: The cost of the depreciating goodwill of their fans and the cost of the fans they never had is literally immeasurable.

  2. elvislives 10/29/2009 at 7:22 PM #

    I know it’s a professional sports team reference, but maybe reading this article will show Wolfpack fans they are not alone in their futility.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=latulippe/091022&sportCat=nfl

    And how some of their fans are responding to the poor product on the field:

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4605603

  3. blpack 10/29/2009 at 8:11 PM #

    We used to be a player on the national scene, but now we are a has been. I talk with people every week who are tired of this. Mediocrity is a step up from this. Time to clean house. The athletes have truly done the best they could, but the losing culture and lack of leadership have hurt the entire athletics program for twenty years.

  4. EdMar 10/30/2009 at 8:23 AM #

    Maybe we should slightly modify our Red and White song to make it more applicable to recent performance.

    We’re the Red and White from State
    And we will wait until next year.
    A hand behind our back,
    We well lose to all the rest.
    Go to hell Carolina,
    Devils and Deacs stand in line.
    The Red and White from N.C. State,
    Go State!

  5. Wolfpack_1995 10/30/2009 at 1:30 PM #

    God it is depressing!

    Count me in also as part of the group that entered State in 1993 and graduated 1997.

    It is very hard to believe that we will ever be champions in anything!

  6. Thinkpack17 11/02/2009 at 12:01 PM #

    We’re the Red and White from State
    And we will wait until next year.
    A hand behind our back,
    We well lose to all the rest.
    Go to hell Carolina,
    Devils and Deacs stand in line.
    The Red and White from N.C. State,
    Go State!

    If you are going to attempt to issue a burn on this board you will have to do better than that. There are some funny ones…but this attempt was just dreadful.

    -1,000

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