ESPN Mag: Carter-Finley’s student section among five most spirited

I know this article is old. But, this is why I save old links so as to not forget them! You can click here to ESPN The Magazine’s ranking of student sections in college football stadiums across the country. The only two ACC programs that gain a mention in the rankings are NC State and Virginia Tech.

As a follow-up to the enormous attendance of the Wolfpack’s spring football game, I thought it would be a good time to highlight another positive mention for North Carolina’s most loyal fan base. (You should click on that link)


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    65 Responses to ESPN Mag: Carter-Finley’s student section among five most spirited

    1. Noah 04/27/2009 at 9:32 PM #

      we do need the height, i just get more and more concerned with Sids scholarship allocation. Assuming he knows he is on his way out after another miserable year, it appears he is just signing guys that will sign in some last chance effort to throw something out on the court that can save his job. (throwing $hit at the wall and hoping something will stick kinda thing)…

      I don’t mind taking a flyer on a seven footer (who doesn’t have arthritic knees and a heart condition). It’s guys like Davis or 6-0 unranked point guards that I question this late in the season.

    2. choppack1 04/27/2009 at 9:34 PM #

      Packleader – read the parting shot. Good stuff. Still, they screwed up big-time w/ that cartoon. They should’ve known better.

    3. Greywolf 04/27/2009 at 11:03 PM #

      April 27th, 2009 at 8:51 pm
      Grey – apology not accepted – now that I know the context, it’s cool.
      Chop – mixed message here but I think I get it. 😉 Thanks

    4. choppack1 04/28/2009 at 7:45 AM #

      greywolf – I actually meant apology not necessary.

    5. Noah 04/28/2009 at 8:04 AM #

      I’d still rather have my bad seat in Reynolds watching the Pack feeding off its sellout home crowd and winning instead of my current stadium-style lower level view of the absolutely atrocious product that the BOT and other Wolfpack officials are trying to push as big-time college basketball.

      You mean you’d rather it be 25 years ago when V and Bruce Poulton were in place?

      That doesn’t have anything to do with geography.

    6. Classof89 04/28/2009 at 8:35 AM #

      I understand all the love for V given what happened to him after he stepped down…but I totally don’t understand the apparent rehabilitation of Bruce Poulton…This guy was a grade A buffoon, and his handling of the whole Golenbach/48 Hours/media debacle should be a required case study for students of academic administration in how NOT to handle and manage a crisis…I cringe everytime I look at my diplomas and see this dipstick’s signature.

    7. tcthdi-tgsf-twhwtnc 04/28/2009 at 9:31 AM #

      “full RBC Center can be just as good as any place in the country. It’s a beautiful arena. Even if we’re splitting it with a hockey team, it’s a great place to play. Remember reading an Archie Miller quote about recruiting, while he was an assistant for us and he said with Reynolds, you had to sell recruits on history, tradition, etc., but an empty RBC Center sort of sells itself.”

      Time has proven that Archie Miller didn’t know WTF he was talking about and why you should never listen to 23 year old assistant coaches about much other than the best place to get a hamburger. K sells history and tradition, Herb and Sid haven’t sold a thing. I guess according to Miller Lite you just walk a kid into the RBC and ask if he needs a pen.

    8. Alpha Wolf 04/28/2009 at 9:46 AM #

      ^ So you think that NC State should walk away from its multimillion dollar equity in the RBC and go back to play in Reynolds — which would need to be reconfigured once again to handle larger attendance?

    9. Noah 04/28/2009 at 10:14 AM #

      but I totally don’t understand the apparent rehabilitation of Bruce Poulton…This guy was a grade A buffoon, and his handling of the whole Golenbach/48 Hours/media debacle should be a required case study for students of academic administration in how NOT to handle and manage a crisis

      Totally agree.

      As far as the RBC Center and Reynolds goes, you can’t go back to Reynolds. There’s a reason they only play one men’s game there and it’s against a team that no one cares about. The costs of putting a game on television from Reynolds are prohibitive.

      If you’ve got, I don’t know, $150 million (maybe?) just sitting around, you might be able to talk someone into tearing down Reynolds, clearing the land and rebuilding something new and workable there. (I don’t know what demo and clearing costs would be)

      Then you’d have to refund all of your PSLs for basketball tickets. Then you’d have to negotiate an exit from your lease with the RBC center. You’d have to make up your lost expenses from the luxury box suites. Don’t forget that you’ll have to build additional parking. Somewhere.

      If you’ve got that cash sitting around, go for it. Someone might even listen.

    10. Alpha Wolf 04/28/2009 at 10:33 AM #

      ^ That sounds like the plan that someone once floated to expand Carter Finley and (get this) install a retractable roof over it.

      It was some group that was interested in getting an NFL franchise for Raleigh, before the Panthers in Charlotte if memory serves. They never told NC State about it, however…that’s how far it got.

    11. choppack1 04/28/2009 at 11:10 AM #

      No matter what we think about it – we’re stuck w/ it for a little while. If we can ever get our basketball back on track and football becomes a behometh that grow other facilities or the Canes stop playing in there, some things could change.

      As I stated in my 2nd post on this thread – it’s not really fair to write off the RBC yet as a good place for NC State basketball.

    12. Greywolf 04/28/2009 at 11:15 AM #

      Hey mods, I didn’t bring Bruce Poulton up but… What a combination it would be to have Chancellor Bruce Poulton and Athletics Director Lee Fowler — NCSU’s ???? ( All the examples I can think of are PI.) (Click and Clack?, Bob and Ray?)

    13. tcthdi-tgsf-twhwtnc 04/28/2009 at 6:54 PM #


      I don’t think moving back to Reynolds is the answer now. I think State made some poor choices going back to the major plans that were announced in the late 80’s or early 90’s.

      Valvano’s Centennial Center may of not been the best thing to pursue and his vision changed over the 10 years before the ESA was started. Would it of been better for State to renovate Reynolds, build a new arena on Central or Centennial, join the city and build something downtown or some other project? We will never know.

      We do know that the current RBC and State is rather boring. I would suggest closing of the 3rd level for a few years to season tickets. Blocking off that level for most games but open it up for the big ACC games or other national games. I would also suggest either amplifying the pep band through the sound system or playing some recorded music.

      The building is just bigger than the program right now but we will all continue to hold out hope this isn’t the case forever.

    14. Noah 04/29/2009 at 5:46 AM #

      A sparrow’s fart is bigger than our program right now. Finishing last in the ACC every year will do that.

      Renovating Reynolds was not architecturally possible. You would have had to remove everything except the walls and then rebuild everything from scratch.

      The idea of building downtown is nice…except for the fact that the ESA got passed and supported by the skin of its teeth. Putting it downtown where NCSU or the State of NC *didn’t* own a hundred acre block of land that it could give would have doomed the project. This says nothing about the impossibility of actually getting to the building. Traffic downtown is snarled and horrible in the evenings as it is. Put a basketball game or one of those ice capades events that you guys seem to like so much and you’d have to leave the house at noon to get there.

    15. timswar 04/30/2009 at 8:13 AM #

      One writer’s Pre-Pre-Pre-Mature top 25 list. NC State made it on the list that just missed inclusion (along with Boston College).

      It’s nice to see a writer giving some respect to the team and what O’Brien is putting together, but if it’s all the same I think I’m going to keep my expectations nice and low for a while.

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