Wolfpack improves to 3-0 with Winthrop waxing

Some Wolfpackers on the idiot message boards wanted to see a blowout tonight in light of Winthrop’s struggles to this point of the season.

They got their wish.

The Wolfpack did it with defense tonight, cruising to a 26 point victory. (For the record, Davidson previously beat Winthrop by an almost identical, 27 points.)

The Wolfpack (3-0) held Winthrop to 29 percent from the field, delivering for the first time the kind of performance you’d expect from an ACC team against an opponent from a so-called mid-major conference.

N.C. State had struggled at times while winning 65-59 over New Orleans and 69-56 over High Point in its first two games. But against Winthrop, senior center Ben McCauley scored 15 points and grabbed 11 rebounds for his first game in double figures in both categories since the 2006 ACC tournament, and the Wolfpack ran out to a 40-24 halftime lead.

Though Winthrop has struggled to score at times this season, the 48 points were 10 short of its previous season low.

The Wolfpack placed four players in double figures and committed only six turnovers on the evening with Javi Gonzalez and Julius Mays running the point as Farnold Degand remains sidelined with tendinitis in his knee.

The ballhandling duties must have taken a lot out of the combination of guards because Gonzalez and Mays combined to go 0-8 shooting from the field. For the night, the Wolfpack hit only 7 of 23 three pointers for just over 30% from the arc and only 30% from the floor for the game.

State fans hope the Wolfpack can avoid some of unexpected losses to cupcakes that plagued the program last season (ECU & New Orleans). On the immediate radar — the team will try to get through exams and avoid an upset from UNC-Greensboro (Sunday) before traveling to Charlotte to play Davidson on December 6th.

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08-09 Basketball General

40 Responses to Wolfpack improves to 3-0 with Winthrop waxing

  1. newt 11/25/2008 at 9:08 PM #

    After a pathetic 4 rebound effort against NO in some 30 minutes, McCauley gathered 7 rebounds against High Point and 11 tonight. That’s good.

    If McCauley wants to score, putting back offensive rebounds is one great way to do it.

  2. swedish 11/25/2008 at 9:21 PM #

    we looked bad…

  3. Afterglow 11/25/2008 at 9:23 PM #

    Nice to hear. I hope this defensive effort isn’t a fluke. Granted, it’s Winthrop and I don’t care what anyone says, they are not our toughest competition this year so far and are not the team they were previously when making the tournament. But a wins a win and I’ll take it.

    This is good practice for Gonzales and Mays-they are going to need it!

  4. Afterglow 11/25/2008 at 9:24 PM #

    Not good to hear that “we looked bad…” I will clarify that I only bsased my statements on what I read. Silly me…

  5. Afterglow 11/25/2008 at 9:26 PM #

    Wait… do you mean we look bad as in bad ass! Or just plain bad.

  6. highstick 11/25/2008 at 9:34 PM #

    Hate to see my hometown Winthrop Eagles get waxed so bad, but they are gonna struggle this year. Definitely not the same talent level that they’ve had the past 5-6 years!

    BUT, if they’ve got to be waxed, glad it was the Pack! Will have to get a “blow by blow” by a couple of my friends who were going up.

  7. Primewolf 11/25/2008 at 9:38 PM #

    Offense looked static.
    D was better than what we saw last year,but not much.

    Intro music and video was awful. My 15 year old even commented how bad it was. A funeral march type of theme. Foulup never ceases to amaze me. Surely an AD would take 5 min to review these things.

  8. Wufpacker 11/25/2008 at 9:57 PM #

    Best news of the night is that Javi and Mays et al only committed 6 turnovers. Taking care of the ball and minimizing unforced errors is going to be one of the keys to success this season, much more important than scoring from the point guard position.

    The rebounding effort by McCauley cannot be overstated either. Hope he (and the team as a whole) are maybe learning the fundamentals of rebounding and position as this will also be one of the keys to success for this team.

    And of course defensive effort is always important for any team, ours included.

  9. Defenestrator 11/25/2008 at 10:04 PM #

    I wasn’t overly impressed with our play tonight, but we definitely got the job done. The thing that really struck me was how many more serviceable bodies we can put on the floor this year. Sid was using his hockey-line rotation again tonight.

  10. Afterglow 11/25/2008 at 10:04 PM #

    “Intro music and video was awful. My 15 year old even commented how bad it was. A funeral march type of theme. Foulup never ceases to amaze me.”

    A funeral march? Hopefully Foulup is hinting at his own funeral as AD and not the foreseeable future for the Pack. God help us.

  11. SuperStuff 11/25/2008 at 10:05 PM #

    I like the production from Tracy Smith. 13 pts in 15 minutes. Still would like to see Javi hit a couple 3s to keep the defenses spread out of the post. I know he’s capable of doing it.

  12. wufpup76 11/25/2008 at 10:08 PM #

    Notes on Winthrop game …

    – First, Farnold did not dress; JT actually played!!! (get to it later)

    – “we looked bad…” … Um, no, we didn’t … Not sure what you’re talking about unless you don’t like good D, decent rebounding effort, and great ball movement but cold shooting in the 2nd half … Seriously, were you at the game? Please expound upon this further ???

    – Easily one of the best, if not the best, overall defensive performances from a Sidney Lowe coached N.C. State team … Bravo! … No, seriously – Bravo! … This wasn’t cold shooting from Winthrop, it was good State D forcing some bad Eagles shots … Still room for improvement no doubt, but with efforts like this on the defensive end and the big guys scrapping for boards we will be in some games

    – The biggest positive on offense came for me when Winthrop started out the second half with an aggressive 1-3-1 Defense and we had absolutely no problem moving the ball against it … None … We made them pull out of that zone within 5 minutes … I was very pleased to see this as most of you know last season all teams had to do was go to a zone defense and we would be lucky to score 30 points in a game

    – It felt like old times on offense at times … ball movement was crisp and execution was good against man D, especially in the first half when we shot over 50% … Brandon Costner had his best game in 2 seasons as he immediately provided us with a matchup advantage on the offensive end – plus – he drew a charge, had 3 blocks, ran the floor well until late in the 2nd half, was perfect from the line, and pulled down about 8-9 boards … Costner is forcing his outside shot, but hopefully this will come

    – Eagles are very inexperienced and it showed … One of the great things about this game tonight is that we jumped on them with good D and never really let up … The Eagles did get some dribble penetration at times, particularly when Mays was in the game – but overall it was a very nice defensive effort

    – Speaking of our point guards, Javi ran the offense well but needs to stop hesitating to take open shots and go up with confidence … Mays had another solid performance for a true freshman … I’m glad he’s getting this experience while Degand is out

    – If we start hitting our shots, this has the potential to be a very dangerous offensive team … The zone offense is just worlds better than last season – I can’t say that enough as there was very good ball movement against the zone … Against man, there were several very nicely executed plays utilizing Ben handling the ball at the top of the key … Ball movement and execution are back

    – CJ Williams hit an open 3 and looked for his shot more tonight; he struggled w/ being a bit over aggressive on the defensive end at times, but he’s getting there … Ferguson stepped right up to the plate when called upon – hit a couple of open 3’s, had at least 4 assists, and played solid D … Courtney Fells played his usual stellar defense and didn’t force anything on offense … Both Ben McCualey and Tracy Smith were very effective against the Eagles tonight and each passed well out of double teams … when Smith and McCauley get doubled if we hit our open shots other teams will be in trouble – neither Smith nor McCauley struggled with double teams tonight

    – Johnny Thomas played about the last 5 minutes of the game … rushed a quick shot when he first came in but otherwise did not have a lot of impact … It was just nice seeing him on the floor and he didn’t look like either his ankle or knee were really bothering him

    – If it seems like I’m heeping too much praise on this team then I don’t mean to … All I can tell you is that this team and coaching staff appear to be completely different than the team that finished off last season with a 9 game losing streak … It’s hard NOT to show improvement from last season’s squad, but at the same time if effort level, intensity, and performance are there then they deserve praise … I tried to point out negatives from the previous games and did so, but there weren’t too many tonight so please don’t take this as me not trying to be objective … This is a new and different team – There will be some losses, but at the very minimum it appears that effort level will consistently there this season

    Bottom line, it looks like progress is being made in each game … we’re 3-0, and hopefull we will get/stay healthy and continue to work hard on defense and give great effort on rebounding … Believe me, when there are negatives I will point them out – but for tonight please enjoy a really solid effort and a good win

    Go Pack!

  13. wufpup76 11/25/2008 at 10:25 PM #

    Ok, based on the above comments I am apparently looking at this team in too much of a positive light …

    I saw crisp ball movement but missed shots (in the 2nd half) where others saw static offense …

    I guess the truth lies somewhere in the middle maybe

  14. SidtheKid 11/25/2008 at 10:36 PM #

    I liked your glowing review. The offense I saw tonight was not what I saw against high point. Against High Point they would race up the court, stop, and run an awkward looking play. Tonight they played with a rhythm offensively. Granted Winthrop isnt the best, but the offense looked much better compared to Saturday.

  15. Trip 11/25/2008 at 11:29 PM #

    “Intro music and video was awful. ”

    Noooooooooo!

    That was the one thing I was certain we would have out of everything.. outstanding intro, heart, passion, rebounding, excellent shooting… out of all of those I just knew I could always count on a badass intro video and now my hopes are ruined.

    However, over the radio it sounded like a great game for us. Fells needs to break more noses though…

  16. redfred2 11/25/2008 at 11:33 PM #

    I was at the movies, but from looking at the stats on gopack, the score, as well as all of the praise about defense, are kind of deceiving. First, we only turned it over 6 times, but we only forced Winthrop into 9 turnovers. I believe we were out rebounded in the first half anyway. Blocked shots were even at five apiece, then, I think they had two more assists than we did for the night.

    I guessing that while it may not have forced them into turnovers, our defense must have taken them out of what they wanted to do, forced bad shots, and totally disrupted their offense.

  17. Trip 11/25/2008 at 11:36 PM #

    Shooting percentages say that we forced them into bad shots on defense, as they were averaging around 48% for the season so far and we held them to 29%.

  18. wufpup76 11/25/2008 at 11:51 PM #

    “I guessing that while it may not have forced them into turnovers, our defense must have taken them out of what they wanted to do, forced bad shots, and totally disrupted their offense.”

    It doesn’t appear that we’re going to force too many turnovers this season, but our defense absolutely disrupted their offensive flow tonight … I honestly wondered if I would ever see that (our defense disrupting another teams offensive schemes) from a Sidney Lowe State team … It has happened, it was inexperienced Winthrop, but it happened 😉

  19. MrPlywood 11/26/2008 at 12:05 AM #

    Slight threadjack, bball related – JJ Hickson got 18 minutes, went 5 for 6 with 2 rebounds, a steal and a block tonight in a Cleveland win…

  20. Otis 11/26/2008 at 12:15 AM #

    Anyone else having problems with the main page address going somewhere else? I still can get onto the site an back asswards way, but am I the only one having these problems?

  21. Trip 11/26/2008 at 12:59 AM #

    Anyone see the Davidson game? The other team did a triangle and 2 on Curry, except for they did it… THE WHOLE GAME. Curry didn’t score a single point, but since that meant it was 4on3 he just passed it to his teammates and they won by 30.

  22. PoppaJohn 11/26/2008 at 2:24 AM #

    Another quick aside – Walls was featured in the international version of Tuesday’s USA Today. A half page article. Doesn’t feel like the kind of kid we’ll get. When’s the last time there was extensive national (and international) press about a kid and we got him? The good news? We’re on his list. I’d love to see it, but I guess I am a Wolfpacker at heart and can’t get my hopes up too high on this one.

  23. BJD95 11/26/2008 at 7:44 AM #

    As long as we don’t lose any low-mid major games, then we should make the NIT pretty easily. With Farnold hurting, I’m pretty sure that’s our ceiling.

  24. SEAT.5.F.2 11/26/2008 at 7:50 AM #

    Great job fellas,

    If I had a game ball to hand out it would go to the coaching staff, specifically Coach Lowe. Defense has been the only consistent problem that I can see that has hampered this program. Injuries occur, and Degand’s (along with Costner and McCauley preseason injuries) absence proved problematic but that is out of the coach’s control.

    Lowe was a defensive tactician Asst Coach in the NBA, atleast that was his expertise under Flip Saunders, so we need to see a team that matchs strength for strength. If that means more CJ Williams then TF, even though you lose the three ball, so be it. If it means that if Tracy Smith can score 10 in 15 mins but can’t play better D then weary Costner and McCauley then don’t give him more then 15 Coach.

    Way to go, keep up the Defense first attitude and these team will be a good story this year. Go Pack!!

  25. basspacker812 11/26/2008 at 8:15 AM #

    I thought the Pack play was ok compared to last season but Winthrop had way too many open shots and easy drives to the basket. Fortunately most of their shots did not fall but a good shooting team would have killed us. It was interesting seeing Lowe sub the entire team for a new five. Tracy Smith is still the most underrated player on the team to me, he hussles when he is on the floor. Cosner looked flat with his jump shooting, had atleast 3 airballs during wide open shots.

    I think the intro video and music screw up was more a RBC production issue, they seemed to not know when to start it by stopping it twice. Killed the moment.

    One thing I did notice during timeouts, there was this tall white kid, over 7 foot & dressed in a suit that sit on the bench but joined the team huddle during TO. Does anyone know who he is, a recruit or just a tall young asst?

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