Fowler Makes His Performance a Public Issue; Sidney Lowe Q&A with Chip Alexander

There is an awful lot of interesting stuff for a Daily Update for it be a random Friday afternoon in late April. SFN will definitely have a lot more on the topics included in this entry in the coming days, but we wanted to get this out there for your comments as soon as possible.

Today there is a report by H. Williams Kellenberger in today’s Rocky Mount Telegram regarding last night’s WPC Caravan stop at Benvenue Country Club where Lee Fowler chose to make his job performance a public issue of debate.

We would like to thank the world’s biggest public-relations nightmare for choosing to open the door to public scrutiny of his job performance. Until now, no media outlet who would ever hope to be included on Fowler’s interview schedule or treated with any dignity from NC State’s Sports Information Director would dare touch the topic of analyzing NC State’s athletics performance under Fowler. Thankfully for all of us, Fowler himself has now chosen to make the issue a topic that is open to public scrutiny. Now that Fowler has oppened the door, we implore the media to GO FOR IT!

At least one member of the media has finally taken notice that there is a growing contingent of NC State fans who have started to question Lee Fowler’s job performance at NC State. Lee responded to some of his critics last night with a blatant admission of how he only cares about NC State’s performance BECAUSE of the importance of his pay check:

“I want to make sure they get this on the Internet tonight,” Fowler said, “that I do love to win. I hate losing and Wolfpackers always say, ‘Well, he doesn’t care as much as I do because he doesn’t understand.’ Well, I do understand.”

“What’s funny about N.C. State is that they pay you a check every month, and if I don’t win, and we don’t win, they’ll quit paying me that check. So I really do care about winning.”

We don’t like helping “Coach Fowler” too much around here; but, now that he has let the cat out of the bag it is too late. We couldn’t agree more with Noah’s comments in our comments section:

Lee Fowler, in case you didn’t realize it, is an idiot. Someone needs to explain to him that you don’t punch down. You punch up.

If you’re a fan, you complain about the guy above you…the coach, the AD, whatever. But if you’re the AD, you complain about the league commissioner or the NCAA. You don’t swing at the people below you on the org. totem pole.

Also, Chip Alexander did a lengthy interview with Sidney Lowe. I would recommend reading the whole interview, but here are a few of Sid’s answers:

On JJ Hickson declaring for the NBA draft:

My gut? It’s hard because he’s talked at times about the team and the guys and how he’s really enjoyed playing with these guys.

When we were in [the gym] doing some things [individually] and I gave him some instructions and said, ‘This is how we need to play the game,’ he said to me, ‘Coach, are we going to play this way next year?’ And I’d say, ‘Yes we are, that’s the plan.’ Then, on the other end, he’ll ask me did I hear anything from the league [NBA].

I think it’s just still up in the air right now. We’ll sit down and find out where he’s going with this, who all is coming out. … There are players who could have gone last year and stayed in [college] and had great years. Now they’re lottery picks. He’s certainly a lottery pick is he comes out the proper year.

On injuries to Degand and Johhny Thomas:

A: I think Farnold is ahead of Johnny. We certainly need Farnold because he has that thing you can’t teach, that speed. And he was playing pretty well for us when he got hurt. So Farnold, knock on wood, should be ready to go and Johnny will take a little longer.

08-09 Basketball AD & Department General Media NC State Administration Sidney Lowe

57 Responses to Fowler Makes His Performance a Public Issue; Sidney Lowe Q&A with Chip Alexander

  1. packbackr04 04/25/2008 at 9:39 AM #

    Good to hear JJ is still thinking about staying. If we can get any dribble penetration next yr, he will be a beast. i also heard he is still going to class. which is good if he plans on coming back.

    sad to hear Johnnys knee rehab is taking this long, and it doesnt sound too good. Seems like he could really help us when healthy.

    I was encouraged to hear this bit about adding another player this offseason:
    A: If there’s one that makes sense, absolutely. It could be a junior-college transfer. i don’t think there’s a true freshman out there right now. We’ve been looking but I don’t want to fill a spot just to fill it.

    also it seems kinda like JJ was beggin Lowe to play uptempo… “Coach, are we going to play this way next year?’ Lets go Sid, no holding these kids back next yr, let em play.

  2. Noah 04/25/2008 at 9:47 AM #

    Lee Fowler, in case you didn’t realize it, is an idiot. Someone needs to explain to him that you don’t punch down. You punch up.

    If you’re a fan, you complain about the guy above you…the coach, the AD, whatever. But if you’re the AD, you complain about the league commissioner or the NCAA.

    You don’t swing at the people below you on the org. totem pole.

  3. Daily Update 04/25/2008 at 9:49 AM #

    Most informed people have conceded that JJ is gone.

  4. RBCRowdy 04/25/2008 at 9:49 AM #

    The way Fowler demonizes the internet message boards comes across as very defensive since he acknowledges the push against him. It also shows that he hasn’t heard of blogs yet since message boards are mid-90s.

  5. old13 04/25/2008 at 9:54 AM #

    Foulup can talk about facilities and wanting to win all he wants. (How long since the Murphy Football Center and RBC were opened!) But “the proof is in the pudding!” He’s had eight, E-I-G-H-T years to turn the horse around. And his (lousy) record speaks for itself! (Notice that he thinks that the fans who want him gone are still just “fifty malcontent guys on the internet!” He hasn’t even entered the 21st century yet!)

  6. Rick 04/25/2008 at 10:20 AM #

    Typical Fowler. He does not know how to handle situations. He ticked off everyone and instead of trying to fix the situation he antagonizes it.
    You could almost feel the bitterness in his “get this to the internets” quote.

  7. BJD95 04/25/2008 at 10:26 AM #

    JB and I recorded a podcast on various topics (focus on Fowler interview) this morning. Should be ready for your listening pleasure soon.

  8. choppack1 04/25/2008 at 10:29 AM #

    Funny – he couldn’t offer any data that shows our athletic department had results that were improving on the field.

    I don’t doubt that Lee wants to win. I want us to win. However, the problem is, I have doubts that he knows how to win. I think the basketball coaching search gave us a good window into his mind.

    Here’s one for Lee Fowler: Name one program that has emerged into a national power SINCE you have arrived?

  9. highstick 04/25/2008 at 10:41 AM #

    Lee’s also ignoring the huge contingent of the silent majority who don’t post(or don’t post very often) who are also very disappointed in his performance.

    Sounds like if there every was an opportune time for that “silent majority) to be very vocal about Lee’s lack of performance, IT IS NOW!

    Let’s face it, if he’s finally starting to talk, “he’s starting to squirm a bit”! Feel the pain, Lee! Just as we have for years!

  10. sautz 04/25/2008 at 10:49 AM #

    I certainly don’t have any insider information, but I was 100% sure JJ was leaving, but there are a lot quality players declaring now. I’m not sure if this is the best year for him to leave. We’ll see.

  11. old13 04/25/2008 at 11:07 AM #

    “N.C. State AD Lee Fowler Defends Job Performance”

    That’s the heading of the article. But having reread the article several times, I do not find anything anything in it relating to Foulup defending either his performance or his position. I wonder of he losing weight again while “working” at his lakeside home!

  12. packbackr04 04/25/2008 at 11:08 AM #

    i like how Lee didnt lay out any clear plan as to how he plans to improve on the basketball situtaion (or any other programs) he just made a broad statement that it will get better…. Well LEE, HOW IS IT GOING TO GET BETTER. i would like to know what steps YOU PERSONALLY plan on taking to ensure that the Athletics Department does improve. Never have i ever heard him mention one concrete thing that he plans on doing himself to make things better. My boss asks me ALL the TIME what i am going to do to increase production. He isnt satisfied with me just saying, “dont worry, Ill get it done”… NO, he wants to know exactly what i plan on doing, how i will accomplish it, and then what i plan on doing to build on that said success. lee is a joke, and any person with a job that is based on performance (which i assume is everyone who is not employed by NCSU) can see it. Start counting the days Lee.

  13. packbackr04 04/25/2008 at 11:12 AM #

    any idea as to who the JUCO Sid mentioned is?

  14. melikesncsu 04/25/2008 at 11:18 AM #

    I am sure this has been done before, but I have seen a lot of info on our performance during Fowler years compared to other ACC teams. (Obviously it has been a helpful indicator of our mediocrity) Has there been any analysis of performance of teams before his tenure. For example, winning percentage of baseball or wrestling for 8 years before Fowler and percentage after Fowler.

    I suspect this would not be good news for Fowler either.

  15. Trip 04/25/2008 at 11:19 AM #

    Excellent interview with Lowe… He’s right that we turn the ball over a ton in transition. Grant himself threw the ball at peoples feet atleast once a game.

    Hell, I love to win basketball games too Fowler! Too bad I have no basketball talent whatsoever other than shooting 3’s so I always lose. Just because you love to win does not mean that you do win.

  16. Trip 04/25/2008 at 11:21 AM #

    Lawson’s heading to the NBA… If Lawson declares I can almost guarantee Hansbro will declare soon.

  17. packbackr04 04/25/2008 at 11:23 AM #

    exactly Trip, i dont think anyone here has ever accused Lee of not WANTING to win. We all WANT TO WIN. what we NEED, is to know how he plans on getting us there. he has never laid anything out that leads me to believe he can take us there. so as far as i am concerned, he is done, finished, gone.

  18. packpigskinfan23 04/25/2008 at 11:29 AM #

    what a dope. Fowler is basically asking to get fired… Anyone think Oblinger has the balls to do it?!

    me either….

  19. PackerInRussia 04/25/2008 at 11:39 AM #

    Lowe on negative internet comments:

    “I try to tell our guys these are people who just are passionate about our school. They don’t mean any harm but they have to express themselves and this is how they do it. This is how they get it off their chests. So I tell them don’t take it as personal as it may sound, even though it is hard. I tell them, “They love you guys, they want you to do well but they just hurt. They hurt like we hurt and this is their way of expressing it.” You just have to deal with it.”

    Lee must not be mentoring Lowe in any way. If he did, he’d realize that people say things on the internet because they’re a bunch of ignorant bandwagon fans who don’t contribute (i.e. give money) to NC State Athletics except to degrade them.

  20. packpigskinfan23 04/25/2008 at 11:51 AM #

    Russia- I was gonna ask earlier why Fowler couldnt say something like that about fans on the internet… then I remembered- Fowler is an asshole. Lowe is a decent guy that also bleeds red and white and loves the Wolfpack. He gets it. Fowler does not.

  21. spanky 04/25/2008 at 12:04 PM #

    There is also a “growing” contingent of students who have actually formed a physical group on campus to do try and make some noise about our athletic director’s “leadership.”

    It is a little more media friendly so we’re not deemed “crazy.” It was named Students for Athletic Excellence. Unfortunately it was put together in about a week and had one meeting last night. A paltry showing of 10 students. It was very informative about why Lee is such a goof, but for unfortunate that the creator’s didn’t have more time to recruit and “get the word out” for this year.

    I’m hoping that with some more publicity and “recruiting” over the summer and early next year we can get it up to about 50 students by the end of August. I’m not sure what we’ll be able to accomplish. But I know for a fact that the new Student Body President is involved and feels much like most of us on here. Hopefully we can create a strong showing and at least make some noise.

    I’m actually only half way surprised that he would blatantly say he only cares about winning because his pay depends on it. (which I do NOT believe – see award of excellence after this year). That reeks of an arrogant pr*ck speaking.

  22. Rochester 04/25/2008 at 12:24 PM #

    Q: Are there any other players you anticipate leaving the program?

    A: Well, Brandon [Costner] could possibly graduate and leave.

    Q: Had he indicated he might leave?

    A: No. But I know academics are very important to Brandon [a rising redshirt junior] and his parents. I think they thought about him coming to school for three years and graduating.

    So that’s going to be always there. So that changes our thought process in terms of recruiting. We have to make sure we’ll have enough big guys to replace J. J. and Brandon and then Ben [McCauley] next year.”

    Q: Do you anticipate Brandon being back?

    A: I’m going to anticipate him being back, yes.

    It’s curious Lowe would mention Costner as possibly leaving and then say that he hasn’t indicated he will. If he didn’t, then why plant the seed? It must have already been planted somehow. I think either he or JJ or both have to leave before we get to the part where Sid brings in a Juco player because otherwise we’re giving up on a 2009 schollie and we don’t have many to play with.

  23. whitefang 04/25/2008 at 12:30 PM #

    Read both O’Brien’s and Lowe’s interviews in the last couple of days. Neither gave a lot of detail really. So is it just me and my imagination or did anyone else feel from the tone of O’Brien’s answers and the tone of Lowe’s answers that O’Brien is “on plan” and that Lowe really doesn’t have a plan?

  24. mikeD 04/25/2008 at 12:39 PM #

    What bothers me is that it appears JJ is not concerned what his teammates think about his possible leave for the NBA. If he does stay, I believe there will be even more “team chemistry” issues next season than there was this season. There won’t be much trust to be had. He’s not playing for/with the team, but playing just to get into the NBA.

  25. spudwebb 04/25/2008 at 1:13 PM #

    I think Lowe’s “plan” was to run a thoroughbred race with pack mules. Seems he wanted to install his system, whether or not the players on hand could excel in it, just to get the ball rolling. Perhaps dogged optimism on my part, next year will tell.

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