Attention to Detail

In this entry from yesterday the N&O’s Chip Alexander made reference to a situation that happened in State’s loss to Wake Forest – the Wolfpack’s 8th in a row – over the weekend.

Alexander was piggy-backing some comments that were made in “Observations” Charlotte Observer on Sunday that said the following:

When N.C. State inbounded the ball with four seconds left on the shot clock in front of the Wolfpack bench, no coach warned the team that there was so little time left. N.C. State cluelessly passed the ball around the perimeter a few times, then the buzzer sounded four seconds later

Despite a claim from “IBACKTHEPACK” on Pack Pride that this account was incorrect and that the coaches did make the players aware of the shot clock, a few other posters supported the account.

Just back from Wake, was sitting directly behind the band with my Wake Wacko friends, directly behind our goal for the 2nd half. Looked directly down into the corner with our bench.

So Wake knocked the ball out of bounds, we inbound back into with 4 seconds on the shot clock….Costner to Ferguson after the inbounds……nobody on on the court, the bench, the asst coaches, or Lowe pointed out the fact that there were only 4 seconds left to get shot off prior to the inbounds pass, and nobody pointed this out during the play. Of course, Ferguson is still dribling with the shot clock goes off, Wake gets the ball and scores…..this is totally unacceptable that from Lowe down to the assistants, the players on the bench, the trainers, the players on the court, absolutely nobody pointed this out……and of course the Wake fans were not going to point it out. if this is a sign of what’s going on with our team and has been going on with our team…something needs to change.

can give you you at least 10 witnesses, 2 state folks 8 wake folks, within 5-7 yards of the play that will verify that absolutely nobody, nobody at all, pointed out that only 4 seconds were left on the shot clock prior to the inbounds play….it was a total cluster f***

In the end…does it really matter whose account is more accurate? If the bench did make the players aware of the situation what does it say about the players blatantly ignoring and not listening to the staff.

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40 Responses to Attention to Detail

  1. blackdom 03/12/2008 at 12:11 PM #

    highonlowe: takes big ones with that handle…….thanks for that info I bet Walsh and the rest of the patriot film crew won’t be taping that practice. good lord

  2. choppack1 03/12/2008 at 12:28 PM #

    blackdom – I don’t know about that. Like I said, I believe he knows b’ball. Maybe he can improve on the other stuff. If so, he can still work out as a coach.

  3. highonlowe 03/12/2008 at 3:57 PM #

    Unfortunately I wasn’t able to walk over to the arena during lunch, so I can’t report back with tales of a highly motivated wolfpack squad. I did however see Gary Williams walking down the sidewalk with a trail of assistants. Believe it or not, he wasn’t sweating (yet)

    blackdom: I’ve had the handle since the Lowe era began. I could modernize it to impartialonlowe, but then it wouldn’t be so darn clever.

  4. blackdom 03/12/2008 at 4:02 PM #

    choppack1 : So we hired a guy,he is getting paid correct? Now we also have to train them as well and thank god they did not do this with the profs I had there or my kids would be straving!
    highonlowe: god bless you and while you are watching us practice please drawer up an out of bounds play for them ok?

  5. BillyVest 03/12/2008 at 4:27 PM #

    choppack1 ok lets say this is from his so called pro background,with that fine .257 winning %…….

    How’d Tim Floyd, currently at So.Cal. or John Calipari do in the pro’s? Pitino, who had some success with the Knicks, in the late 1980’s, didn’t do so well in his second NBA go around with the Celtics.

    Hard to say how a pro coaching resume translates to college coaching success.

  6. choppack1 03/12/2008 at 4:33 PM #

    BillyVest – How did Tim Floyd, Pitino and Cailipari do in college? Also, how did Leonard Hamilton and Lon Kruger do in college?

    Now, ask yourself how did Sidney Lowe do in his previous stop of college coaching?

    Those guys you mention are bad comparisons – they were college coaches. What you need to do is find a former NBA coach – w/ no college coaching experience at any level – and see how he did when he became a college HC.

    I know of one guy – Clyde Drexler.

    I know that Bradley had a coach who coached in the NBA who did quite well. But I don’t know if he was as inexperienced in the college game.

    Of course, this was all out there 2 years ago, and I ignored it then. I really thought that the 2 previous coaches w/ head coaching experience would minimize the learning curve.

    They appear to have minimized the experience problem about as effectively as Degand, Javi and MJ combined to address our guard problems.

  7. blackdom 03/12/2008 at 4:34 PM #

    billyvest: well here it is: now you are comparing sid to that group one difference each coach you have mentioned has been successfull at one time or another……no pro coaching does not translate to success …….so Sids just in a 20 yr slump. Thanks BillyVest I feel better already .Give him more time perhaps he can go .300 in the acc .

  8. BillyVest 03/12/2008 at 4:44 PM #

    What you need to do is find a former NBA coach – w/ no college coaching experience at any level – and see how he did when he became a college HC.

    I know of one guy – Clyde Drexler.

    Drexler never coached in the NBA. He went from being a player to a college HC.

  9. BillyVest 03/12/2008 at 4:45 PM #

    choppack1, the rest of your post is fair regarding how to compare Lowe to other coaches with similar backgrounds.

  10. sf59 03/12/2008 at 8:16 PM #

    per gopack interview BC will be back… good or bad who knows 🙂

  11. Primewolf 03/12/2008 at 8:21 PM #

    Regardless, it is hard to fathom that every player on the court wouldn’t look at the shot clock after you have had the ball a while and it gets knocked out of bounds.

    It is just natural to do that. Or Not (I just don’t get it, ADD, low BB IQ or what, I simply do not get it.)

  12. Rochester 03/12/2008 at 9:44 PM #

    I’m glad Costner’s planning to stay. I expect he’ll bounce back. I know he’s had a rough year, but I’ll be surprised if he’s anywhere near this ineffective next year. I just hope he stays healthy all summer so he can work himself back into condition.

  13. turfpack 03/12/2008 at 9:50 PM #

    My coach use to say= TEAM-Together-Everyone-Acheives-Much

    = Apart-smells like a fart and what you will have is shit.

  14. choppack1 03/12/2008 at 10:05 PM #

    Billy Vest – good point on Clyde Drexler. I hadn’t really thought about that, but you’re right.

  15. turfpack 03/12/2008 at 10:23 PM #

    I have talked to writers before about State basketball-I think they want State to be a good or great team(I know!)they have told me as much so.I think some others in the Media do as well,but what has State really given them to write about laterly-coaches that are not very good(fans don’t like)-Teams that are middle of the road at best(ACC Championships-when-1987!)Goes back to leadership in the A.D. WE HAVE HAD NONE FOR YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
    I am a 1981 graduate of N.C.STATE And fed up with the last 15yrs of basketball-This is a great University-we should have great TEAMS!!!.

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