Breaking Down the 2008 Football Schedule

Sorry I didn’t have time to blog on this sooner, but the 2008 NC State football schedule is a very interesting one. Let’s take it game by game, and think of how the season might play out:

Aug. 28 at South Carolina (ESPN – Thurs.)

I love being in the national spotlight early. It will be easy for Coach O’Brien to get his players fired up. I particularly like playing a “nothing to lose” game – the players should be looser, and a win would have the nation talking about Tom O’Brien and NC State. Yes, I know that South Carolina had a disappointing year last year, but they are still a Spurrier-coached SEC team playing at home – they will be expected to win easily.

Plus, I have lots of great memories about this series. It is not a “friendly” or “polite” rivalry, but not a violent and unpleasant one either (see Carolina, East). I was in the end zone grass hill (in a sea of Gamecock fans) when Kramer’s Hail Mary on an untimed down silenced the redneck horde. Definitely an awesome childhood memory, screaming and pointing at the blank stares and gaping mouths around me (after about 60 seconds of silence, I did hear someone complain “That’s bullllllshiiiiiiit!” Fun times. The first game my wife attended with me was the “Pre-Floyd Tropical Storm” game, in Holtz’ 1st or 2nd year. She knew I was crazy when I didn’t so much as consider leaving early, but she married me anyway. Tip – in warm weather monsoons, wear swimming trunks and flip-flops. You stay much more comfortable.

Williams/Brice is a very hostile visiting environment, and what a baptism of fire it could be for Russell Wilson or Mike Glennon. I am very curious to see how they would respond.

I’m glad Spurrier wants to play us, and even if we can’t go back to an annual series, there should be at least one home-and-home per decade.

I have a nagging feeling that we get a win here, although I will predict that USC wins a close one.

Sept. 6 William & Mary

This is a nice warmup before ACC action starts. We can build on the effpot against South Carolina, or regain some confidence. Either way, it will be nice knowing we won’t be 0-2 heading into Death Valley.

Sept. 13 at Clemson

Did somebody say “nothing to lose”? This game certainly fits the bill. Most in the media have or will pick the Tiggers to win the Atlantic Division. 80,000 plus will be on hand, wearing that God-awful orange color. The matchup sucks, thanks to Clemson’s abundant speed and tough running game. Still, I believe Clemson is breaking in a new QB. New QBs sometimes make mistakes before they settle in. Bowden’s teams usually drop a handful of games early, including at least one that they shouldn’t. Maybe they also get a big early win against Alabama, and overlook the Pack after last year’s beatdown in Raleigh.

Still, even I can’t be crazy enough to predict a win here.

Sept. 20 East Carolina

We beat these assholes in their “Super Bowl” last year, and it turns my stomach to be playing them 3 years in a row, even more so to consider a loss. Repeat after me, “Coach” Fowler – South Carolina rivalry = good, East Carolina rivalry = likely “Cops” episode. Have to feel good about being no worse than 2-2 after this game.

Sept. 27 South Florida

Please check me on this, but I believe USF loses a ton of key players from last year’s inconsistent (but dangerous) squad. Getting blown out in last year’s Sun Bowl by an injury-depleted Oregon squad that limped across the Pac-10 finish line can’t help their psyche, either. This is likely to be a low-scoring game, in which our kicking game (major question mark heading into spring practice) could determine the outcome. We should have our depth chart and various roles figured out by this game, so the timing is pretty good.

I am pegging this game as the pivotal one of the season – I think it will be the turning point, one way or the other. I don’t see how we miss a bowl game if we beat USF.

Oct. 4 Boston College

Feel the seething hatred! Matt Ryan made 2 unbelievable plays to shift the Eagles’ record from 4-4 to 6-2. But in the re-match of one such game, the Hokies reined supreme and won the ACC title, kicking BC as far down in the bowl pecking order as the ACC rules allowed. Then they barely beat Big Ten also-ran Michigan State (in the only bowl game where I cheered against the ACC team). We’ll see how much fun “Jags” provides the handful of Eagle faithful without a cupboard full of returning Tom O’Brien senior leaders. First to worst in the Atlantic is not out of the question, and I’ll love every minute of it.

That said, we will be playing our 6th game on October 4, without any bye weeks (and only one cupcake) to rest any nagging injuries. Depth will still be an issue for the 2008 Wolfpack. Still, no way do I bet against Tom O’Brien here. After this week, we could be 3-3, or as high as 5-1. The schedule does lay out nicely if we are able to play to our maximum potential early, and get better QB and OL play. The “toss-up” or “slight favorite” games are all at home up to this point.

Oct. 16 Florida State (ESPN – Thurs.)

The Pack gets 11 days to prepare for the Seminoles, in a home Thursday night matchup. Carter-Finley will be raucous and highly inebriated, especially if the Pack comes in at 4-2 or 5-1. Can emotion and prep time overcome FSU’s sizeable speed and athleticism advantage? Probably not. But it sure would be nice to give Amato yet another loss in front of the home crowd. His last game in Raleigh was a loss, and I want it to stay that way, damn it.

Oct. 25 at Maryland

State gets a few extra days prior to the trip to College Park. Historically, this is the kind of game that NC State never, ever wins. I will go out on a limb and predict that we will win this game if we lose to FSU, and lose if we are coming off a win. I would be very satisfied to exit this contest at 2-2 in the ACC.

Nov. 8 at Duke

If there’s one opponent (other than Bill and Mary) that doesn’t require an extra week of prep time, it’s Duke. But it does allow sufficient time to craft an A+ game plan, to make sure Cutcliffe’s charges don’t pull off an emotional upset. The stands will be 75% red, and I have to think that pulls us through even on an off-day. Like the USC series, I have lots of good memeories of high octane State/Duke games from the 1980s.

Nov. 15 Wake Forest

Very, very glad to have this game at home, and late in the season. I would very much rather have the bye week before this one, though. Riley Skinner will test the Pack defense, but the Pack should be playing with more confidence by mid-November. I expect both teams will be playing for bowl position, and NC State could be a spolier for Wake’s title hopes (Wake gets Clemson at home). This is a classic trap game – for the Deacons. But Wake likely prevails anyway.

Nov. 22 at North Carolina

Love playing the hated Tarheels late. It’s another chance for a “home away from home” game, as UNC folks will already be in full hoops mode. This is another key game for NC State to stay in bowl contention, and to get above .500 in conference play heading into the home finale. A win might also have the added benefit of knocking UNC out of the bowl picture. Again, I can’t predict O’Brien to lose to Butch. Just can’t. May his run be Sheridan-like.

Nov. 29 Miami

Again, I think this game is placed favorably on the schedule. If one is going to play the Saturday after Thanksgiving, it’s best to do so at home against an opponent that has to travel a long distance. We don’t have to worry about any visiting fans making the trip, either. I expect this game to mean far more for Wolfpack players than Miami’s, but the speed and athleticism might be too much. Like the South Carolina game, this is one that I have a feeling about, but the brain says no.

Predicted Record: 7-5 (4-4)

This result would make me very happy, and all of you should feel likewise. And this prediction is 100% contingent upon the starting QB not being Daniel Evans.

Oppotunity Games: at South Carolina, vs. Florida State, vs. Wake Forest

A win from this list would be a sign of a possible breakout season. Two wins would be a near-certain indicator.

Firewall Games: vs. East Carolina, vs. Boston College

Lose one of these, and it could be a long season. Lose both, and it looks like a history-making terrible season.

About BJD95

1995 NC State graduate, sufferer of Les and MOC during my entire student tenure. An equal-opportunity objective critic and analyst of Wolfpack sports.

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81 Responses to Breaking Down the 2008 Football Schedule

  1. robopack 02/19/2008 at 2:57 PM #

    I was only 10 or 11 years old at the time but i still remember the game that eric kramer came on the field in the 4th played hurt, and ignited us like fire to pull out the win.

    Anymore need to be said about what a great QB can do for a team, man i hope one of our fresh comes through!

  2. RickJ 02/19/2008 at 3:00 PM #

    “Seriously, what the heck happened that we are back to the same level we were with Les Robinson as AD and without $300 million worth of facilities for these programs?”

    Mr. O – This is really a great way to frame the issue.

    One correction to your comment:

    “Our previous AD Les Robinson hired Herb Sendek and Chuck Amato.”

    Actually, it was Todd Turner that hired Sendek.

  3. Noah 02/19/2008 at 3:03 PM #

    “Actually, it was Todd Turner that hired Sendek.”

    That can’t be right, can it?

    Robinson resigned and then Turner immediately went to Vandy and Robinson was named, AD. THEN we had the coaching search…

    Or am I mixing that up?

  4. RickJ 02/19/2008 at 3:11 PM #

    Noah – From the StateFans Archives:

    10 Years Ago Today – Herb Sendek Hired
    Published by StateFans on 04/17/2006 in Basketball, Flashback and General.

    “Ten years ago today, the news broke that after an exhaustive search, Todd Turner and NC State was hiring Herb Sendek of Miami of Ohio to lead the Wolfpack’s basketball program. Turner didn’t last much longer.”

    A lot of people mix this up because of the unusual timing of Les resigning, Turner hiring Sendek and then Turner leaving for Vandy and Les returning as AD. The whole thing is too stupid to believe, thus making it hard to remember.

  5. Mr O 02/19/2008 at 3:31 PM #

    Thanks Rickj.

  6. choppack1 02/19/2008 at 3:34 PM #

    ‘Seriously, what the heck happened that we are back to the same level we were with Les Robinson as AD and without $300 million worth of facilities for these programs?”

    It kind of invalidates that facilities argument doesn’t it?

    Actually, I think the type of thinking going on here is a HUGE part of the problem. I’ve heard Fowler mention it – and I’ve heard the coaches mention it – You need the facilities to compete. That’s certainly true to an extent – but facilities are merely a small factor for success. Facilities should never be used as an excuse – but apparently, Fowler is one who says, “Well, I can’t fire you until you have the facilities.” BS – facilities aren’t the difference between a good coach and a bad one. They may be the difference between a great coach and really good coach. A really good coach and a good coach. A bad coach and a horrible coach.

    I too am infuriated that Fowler basically made a conscious decision to set NC State basketball back 5 years – and is being rewarded for this decision. Seriously, what would he have to do to be fired? Oh yeah, that’s right, screw up the budget.

  7. RAWFS 02/19/2008 at 3:34 PM #

    Sort of goes to prove that one site or the other ought to start putting together an NC State sports timeline. I wish I had the time to do it, but between my various and sundry activities like work, my site, keeping up this site and other stuff I don’t have time to do it…

  8. nycfan 02/19/2008 at 3:43 PM #

    Looks like a fun, solid schedule.

    Who is projected as QB next season? Are people expecting the freshman to come in as a saviour QB or is there a redshirt waiting in the wings?

  9. Mr O 02/19/2008 at 3:56 PM #

    nycfan: Sounds like R. Wilson or M. Glennon. Best guy will play.

  10. BJD95 02/19/2008 at 3:57 PM #

    ^^ I have heard that the staff WANTS it to be Russell Wilson (Redshirt Fr) or Mike Glennon (True Fr). Wilson is the #1 player to watch in the spring game. The new PK is #2.

  11. choppack1 02/19/2008 at 4:31 PM #

    Yep BJD – The coaches have certainly made it clear in their comments that they are looking for him to compete for this job and win it. Kinda odd for a “4th stringer” huh?

    I’m looking forward to watching Wilson this spring so I can see him w/ my own two eyes. Of course, when you take the opportunity for contact out of the equation – Evans becomes a much more effective QB.

  12. packman90 02/19/2008 at 4:46 PM #

    How do you think nc state fans will travel to usc.

  13. wxpack 02/19/2008 at 4:52 PM #

    If we find a QB then 7-5 is possible. If not then a losing season is likely.

    As for going to USC on a Thu night… been there done that… what a bunch of red necks down there in the Chicken Coup! Actually I pulled for UNC against those hicks last season. There fans are that bad!

  14. graywolf 02/19/2008 at 4:58 PM #

    Two areas of concern are OL and QB. Straighten out these areas and we have at least 7 wins………if we keep the status quo and redshirt all OL and Glennon then we have a losing season again and we are home in December.

  15. McLovin 02/19/2008 at 5:54 PM #

    I want to believe that we’ll have a good football season next year, but I’m not gonna expect anything after the basketball fiasco we’ve had this year…

    Even if we don’t have a good season though, TOB is still the man.

  16. redfred2 02/19/2008 at 5:58 PM #

    Man I love this. It happens during every off season, and in every sport. Do you think there will ever come a time that we will just allow the early ballgames to tell us what our team really “is”, or really “is not”. How about if for once, the Wolfpack fans, instead of the players, came into the sports season flat, without any pre-determined, overly lofty, or overly dire, expectations? Do you think something like that might be more reseasonable and possibly make us appear a little less desperate and less “fanatical” to the rest of the world?

  17. howlie 02/19/2008 at 7:15 PM #

    Well, [it needs another article to reply to but] I was also at the incredible USuC game, and also sitting on the bank… watching the play unfold in front of me and me my bride-to-be. The guys who was offsides was one of USuC’s linemen, who was actually IN OUR HUDDLE before the play began and ‘sauntered’ up to the line in slow motion with our team. Apparently, he thought that if he didn’t get back across the line of scrimmage, the ball couldn’t be snapped.
    As I remember the play, Kramer had a quick count and when the play failed–with no time on the clock, the penalty on this idiot allow and EXTRA do-over. It was THAT play–with 0.00 on the clock, that Peebles caught for the victory.

  18. redfred2 02/19/2008 at 7:23 PM #

    ESPN just advertized the game tommorrow night.

    The page said,

    #3 UNC vs NC STATE, but there was only one player, from just one of those teams, pictured. Care to guess who that player was?

  19. westwolf 02/19/2008 at 8:31 PM #

    ^ A player from the team that is ranked?

  20. LRM 02/19/2008 at 8:36 PM #

    Hansbrough is the best player in the ACC on a team that will likely be ranked #1 or #2 next week. Who’d you expect to see, Marques Johnson?

  21. dbc90 02/19/2008 at 8:45 PM #

    I’ll never forget the 87 game @ Williams Bryce (sp?) … I turned 21 that Sat. morning and actually met SterlingS @ Crazy Zacks … we got whipped for sure … great road trip though! I remember the scene quite vividly in that stadium and wished that CF had the same energy … I suppose it’s close to that now … might have to road trip there this coming season … thanks for jogging my memory.

  22. redfred2 02/19/2008 at 8:53 PM #

    “Who’d you expect to see, Marques Johnson?”

    Um no, not Johnson, but maybe another player, like a senior, or even a freshman. Just someone representing the opposing team. I guess that’s totally unheard of and too much to ask though.

  23. redfred2 02/19/2008 at 9:15 PM #

    That Calvin Sampson, he may be a cheater, but to hell with all of that, Brent Mussberger sure loves him just the same.

    Next game is UK vs Georgia, with Billy “Squigey” Gillespie at the helm for the Wildcats.

  24. blpack 02/19/2008 at 11:02 PM #

    I am glad the S Carolina series is back. At least for a while. This is one game that should happen annually. We have a lot of questions and probably can’t count on a huge season, but a winning record is possible. We’ll take some lumps this fall, but start delivering some bumps in 09.

    We’re not rebuilding in CC, WCC, and baseball. Are we rebuilding in every other sport?

  25. CaptainCraptacular 02/20/2008 at 10:16 AM #

    I’m going to go out on a limb with my prediction and say (and this is for you Lush) that we will NOT be losing to Louisville by 23 at halftime at any point this season #;^)

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