Cincinnati Cries Foul In Loss at N.C. State

RALEIGH — Cincinnati tried to turn up the defensive pressure on N.C. State and paid for it with a huge number of fouls, a whopping disparity at the free-throw line — and its fifth straight loss.Brandon Costner scored 20 points Sunday night, leading N.C. State to an 85-77 victory and helping the Wolfpack stretch its winning streak to three games.Even though the Bearcats outscored the Wolfpack 67-48 from the field, Cincinnati was outscored 37-10 from the free-throw line. The Bearcats were whistled for 35 fouls, compared to 17 for the Wolfpack.”The refs called more fouls against us than N.C. State,” Cincinnati coach Mike Cronin said. “They were just as aggressive against us.”

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28 Responses to Cincinnati Cries Foul In Loss at N.C. State

  1. Octavian 12/26/2007 at 11:11 AM #

    The Bearcats were hacks the whole game. They don’t get the calls when you no longer have the atheletes or the domineering presence of Huggy bear on the sideline.

  2. sf59 12/26/2007 at 11:19 AM #

    its not like they were questionable calls… they could have called way more… every screen they set was full of elbows and moving…

  3. SuperStuff 12/26/2007 at 11:40 AM #

    I thought NC State was at a dance from the 70s in that game. Everytime they made a move around a screen the Cincy players moved to bump them or put their arm out to take the lead. LMAO…

  4. bTHEredterror 12/26/2007 at 11:41 AM #

    Early on it was failry even, I think fouls were relatively close at halftime. Our guys were called for some touch fouls, too. Cincy had 24 fouls in the second half.

    Here’s what State did at half that you didn’t, Coach Cronin, adjust to the refs and the way they were calling the game. Learn and move on.

  5. BoKnowsNCS71 12/26/2007 at 11:48 AM #

    SFN — WHo is GOul?

  6. PackerInRussia 12/26/2007 at 12:06 PM #

    Isn’t the “h” missing in “Goul” 🙂

    P.S. This post will make no sense when the spelling mistake is fixed.

  7. Sweet jumper 12/26/2007 at 12:18 PM #

    The refs called the game consistently for both teams. The fact is that Cincy decided to play rougher and try to disrupt our rhythm. They paid for this by committing more fouls. There were several obvious fouls against GG that were not called. They need to quit whining. The only reason that they scored more from the field than us is because they were fouling us before we could even attempt a field goal on many possessions.

  8. Wulfpack 12/26/2007 at 12:31 PM #

    Cincy played the way they normally do — dumb.

  9. redfred2 12/26/2007 at 12:54 PM #

    We were forcing the action and Cincy’s response was to just play rougher and rougher. It’s like someone else said earlier, State adjusted to the whistle, and the Bearcats coach apparently hasn’t learned how to.

  10. RAWFS 12/26/2007 at 1:23 PM #

    “They were just as aggressive as us…” — except they (NC State) were in position more times than you, and/or got ball and no arm or body than you.

    In other words, coach, you’re whining.

  11. gopack968 12/26/2007 at 2:24 PM #

    Whose point guard is gone for the year?

    I do think that this elbows-out style of play is accepted in other conferences and in the NCAAs though. It is good to see it up close a few times before the tournament.

    And just keep this game in mind when we are frustrated with ACC referees later this season. It could always be worse…

  12. Par Shooter 12/26/2007 at 2:55 PM #

    Those were ACC refs.

  13. PackGirl 12/26/2007 at 3:00 PM #

    I think Cincy’s coach must have read the N&O article that insinuated the refs favored us. He figured that if the Raleigh paper said the fouls were unfair then it must be true. Little did he know that the article was written by a Chapel Holian.

  14. ncsuftw01 12/26/2007 at 4:22 PM #

    “Even though the Bearcats outscored the Wolfpack 67-48 from the field”

    Not that we really had a choice about that one. Kinda hard to do that when you get fouled every 5 seconds

  15. Clarksa 12/26/2007 at 4:23 PM #

    The refs let it get out of control…had they called it tight earlier, Cincy would have let up…instead, they tightened up the game in the last 10 minutes of the 2nd half.

    Of course, if you go with the UNC-CH Theory of Disproportionate Fouls, then the obvious reason they had more fouls is because we were ahead the whole game and they used fouling to send us repeatedly to the foul line.

  16. Noah 12/26/2007 at 5:54 PM #

    Id love for someone to point out WHICH fouls were questionable. As I said in the game thread, I could have called about nine fouls per possession just on #34.

  17. Trip 12/26/2007 at 7:18 PM #

    Cincy has no reason to bitch, they played intentionally hard, as was noted by how many fresh legs they were throwing out on the court. #34 should have been ejected simply on 2 possessions.

    Unrelated, but I’m in Florida for the holidays which makes it a bit difficult to pickup any wolfpack hoops action via tv/radio… What’re my best bets? I was hoping that the parents would have ESPN unavailable, but that was a no go. It seems pretty hard to find online radio broadcasting it as well. It was easier when 680 AM was the flagship of the wolfpack, because I could actually pick that up down here in Florida at night. Any ideas?

  18. wolfonthehill 12/26/2007 at 7:26 PM #

    ^ The laughable part was that the two occasions where the Cincy player should have, without question, been T’d up for their inappropriate, aggressive reaction to a foul call on them were both BLATANT fouls. I mean, you knew they were going to commit the fouls before they even happened. They were damn near knocking guys down. They should just be thankful today that they weren’t T’d up repeatedly, making it a double-digit ass-whipping.

  19. Primewolf 12/26/2007 at 7:39 PM #

    Chips’s article in the N&O made a point of saying the Cincy coach didn’t complain about the fouls when interviewed at the end of the game.

    Lo and Behold, the next day, Cincy gets the word out the calls did not go their way.

    I sit close to the court. And let me tell you, it was not basketball. Many fouls were of the knowdown variety. Others were blatant holding and grabbing. Moving screens, what is that.

    If the ACC refs had done their job, Degand would likely not have been injured. Cincy wouldn’t have had any players left after the first half. We were blatantly fouled (not touch fouls) 3-4 times per possession.

  20. RabidWolf 12/26/2007 at 8:01 PM #

    Ahhem…..WAAAAAAAAAAH!

  21. Texpack 12/26/2007 at 8:15 PM #

    The strategy was clearly to keep fouling until the refs got tired of calling fouls or State lost its concentration at the line. Fortunately for us neither happened.

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  24. Lunatic Fringe 12/26/2007 at 11:21 PM #

    Cincy put on a clinic of how NOT to play defense with the over commitment in the press, horrendous footwork, and continuous reaching (since they were out of position).

  25. pack80 12/27/2007 at 7:13 AM #

    And who in their right mind thinks that fouls are supposed to be even at the end of the game? That’s just stupid! Different teams, different players, different styles, different adjustments to way game is being called, different outcome.
    Stop your whining and as the sports babe used to say,
    “Score more points1”

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