Neinas in the News

A fantastic piece on Chuck Neinas and the general concept of hiring ‘search firms’ in college athletics from USA Today.

The president of Neinas Sports Services in Boulder, Colo., has handled six coaching searches this season alone. He’s leading the hunt to fill vacancies at Alabama and Louisiana Tech. He recently has completed four coaching searches that concluded with the hirings of Randy Shannon at Miami (Fla.), Butch Davis at North Carolina, Tom O’Brien at North Carolina State and Mark Dantonio at Michigan State.

Over the last decade, Neinas has helped schools hire some of the biggest coaching names in college football: Mack Brown at defending national champion Texas; Bob Stoops at Oklahoma; Tyrone Willingham at Notre Dame, then Washington; Les Miles at Oklahoma State, then LSU; Mark Richt at Georgia, and Dennis Franchione at Texas A&M.

Sports economist Andrew Zimbalist of Smith College says hiring Neinas is a waste of money. Any athletics director should know who’s hot and who’s available in the coaching fraternity, he says.

“I don’t see what information Neinas brings to the table that an AD can’t get themselves,” says Zimbalist. “But if they don’t hire him, and they make a mistake, somebody will say, ‘You blew it, everybody else in the conference used Neinas.’ So he has this self-perpetuating monopoly.”

Castiglione says Neinas is worth it for several reasons. An AD can pool his or her information with Neinas’. With Neinas chatting up coaches year-round, he’ll have the most up-to-date information. Also, his price is “very reasonable,” says Castiglione, compared to the wider business world where executive recruiters often command a fee based on one-third of a candidate’s first-year salary.

Most important, using a middleman enables schools to recruit without leaving fingerprints. Neinas can call potential candidates without naming his client, check backgrounds and references before things even get to the official contact stage. If a school ends up hiring its second or third choice, well, they can still say the coach was their first choice. With no one the wiser. As Castiglione says, “One has to remember, the search process is supposed to be secret.”

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27 Responses to Neinas in the News

  1. harrisek 12/19/2006 at 2:10 PM #

    I had to laugh when I read the comment from the Smith College guy, he totally discounts secrecy. He should talk to Lee Fowler. 🙂 The ability to “truthfully” say, “he’s our first choice”, is worth many times Nienas’ fee.

  2. burnbarn 12/19/2006 at 2:10 PM #

    It was nice to have him represent us in the TOB search.. things were quiet and then we had a coach..
    His fee of $35K is nothing compared to the millions that will be paid out during TOB’s tenure.

  3. RedTerror29 12/19/2006 at 2:11 PM #

    A $35,000 flat rate is a small price to pay when you’re fixing to hire a guy for $1+ million a year.

  4. BoKnowsNCS71 12/19/2006 at 2:24 PM #

    That statement from the Smith Collge guy is about what you would expect from an Economist — truly naive. the writer probably searched far and wide for such a great — bad — quote.

    Using a guy like Neinas allows the school to make contact quietly without asking formal permission. I suspect Neinas can talk in more easily with out it being a true job interview: “Are you interested?, What type package are you envisioning?, What would it take for you to make the jump/take the job. etc”

    Plus when a coach interviews with Neinas — and is not a candidate for the first job, — he’s already made a connection for the next school. Quite a business to be in.

    Wonder what would have happened had we used him for our BB program? At least we would not have been turned down as many times.

  5. choppack1 12/19/2006 at 2:33 PM #

    Well, here’s what I’d say.

    10 years ago, you probably didn’t need a guy like Neinas. Now, however, you do. As the article touches on, the key benefit is that it keeps things quiet. These days w/ the abilities to track planes and all the various media outlets, it’s hard to keep a secret long. Using a search firm keeps these things quiet – and that’s huge in the public perception of these hires.

  6. RickJ 12/19/2006 at 2:55 PM #

    Neinas recent track record has been pretty good but Alabama hasn’t gotten secrecy or a coach.

  7. Sam92 12/19/2006 at 3:55 PM #

    that quack economist is clearly looking out from an ivory tower

    if we had paid neinas $1 million i’d be upset, but getting a consult with someone in the know for $35k to hire a coach for multiple millions (over a few years) is worth it — good call by lee fowler

  8. choppack1 12/19/2006 at 4:51 PM #

    I’m shocked he’s doing the Bama gig – did he just start?

    Also, it makes you wonder how quiet are b’ball opening would have been – pretty similar fanbase/history for both programs.

  9. Slader4881 12/19/2006 at 5:29 PM #

    fyi – Rivers, Holt, and Wilson all made the pro-bowl……… Congrads

    have we ever had 3 there at the same time?

  10. TomCat 12/19/2006 at 5:49 PM #

    Speaking of searches….. word has it: Steve Logan has taken the offensive coordinator job at Boston College…. Working for HC Jeff Jagodzinski (GB Packers) who just accepted the BC job. Jags started his career under Logan at ECU, years ago. Boston is probably a good fit for the guy: he will have a HC who knows how do deal with is ideosyncricities & will give him free reign on offense. A town (Boston) in which the football program hides on page 4 of the sports section & no coaching spotlight…. The only bad thing about it. Have to deal with him on the opposing sidelines as he takes a ACC job.

  11. Woof Wolf 12/19/2006 at 6:40 PM #

    The good news about the BC hires is that almost everyone that was on TOB’s staff will be here in two weeks.

  12. packpigskinfan23 12/19/2006 at 6:58 PM #

    I dont want EVERYONE on TOB’s staff.

  13. RabidWolf 12/19/2006 at 8:01 PM #

    At least TOB did the smart thing by retaining Portee!!!

  14. Woof Wolf 12/19/2006 at 8:02 PM #

    If we don’t trust TOB to hire the staff HE wants, we really screwed up.

  15. RabidWolf 12/19/2006 at 8:08 PM #

    Did TOB retain anyone else?? Didn’t I hear something about the DC keeping his job?

  16. Mr O 12/19/2006 at 8:18 PM #

    I don’t get the fascination with this guy. Every AD in the country is going to be forced to hire him now because every other AD is doing it.

    Fla, a top five program in the country, could have hired Meyer from a non-BCS school without Neinas. Same with Oklahoma hiring an assistant, Texas hiring a coach from a basketball school, UNC hiring a coach sitting on the sidelines with no other jobs available in BD, NC State hiring Tom O’Brien who wanted our job, and Miami hiring an assistant on their existing staff.

    I also don’t buy the secrecy. We knew we interviewed PJ and it got out before TOB was hired that he was being considered. If the talks had broken down, then we would have moved on to the next coach on the list and we likely would have heard about that interview/discussion as well.

    We know what happened with Miami’s search and who turned down that job. We know who has turned down Alabama’s job and they still don’t have a coach.

    The leaks may not come from Neinas and his organization, but the leaks will still come from your own athletic department, friends of the program, etc…just like leaks always come especially in the Message Board Era of sports.

  17. RabidWolf 12/19/2006 at 8:21 PM #

    Rumors will ALWAYS be circulated, leaks happen because a lot of people don’t know how to STFU, and other people like the $$$ offered by some unscrupulous media types.

    BTW if anybody cares CAR:2 PHI:0 @ 6:30 2nd

  18. PAPacker 12/19/2006 at 8:43 PM #

    SFN, can you tell us anything about how TOB’s staff is shaping up? Whatever happened to LSU’s DC?

  19. WolfPup35 12/19/2006 at 8:44 PM #

    CAR 2 PHI 0 after 2…looking good, glad to see Brind’Amour playing well after a groin (ouch) injury.

    State has a VERY good chance against Alabama tomorrow night, mainly because they are expected to get blown out, and the kids know that!

    This team has shown that they can play very well, especially when they are not expected to compete. This team has ‘something’, and I believe they will compete with the top dogs not only in the ACC, but nationally.

    McCAULEY IS A FREAKING MONSTER!!!!

  20. WolfPup35 12/19/2006 at 8:56 PM #

    IMHO, Alabama hasn’t gotten a coach because nobody wants to try to coach in Bryant’s very long shadow, nor does anybody want to coach at a school where the BOT and boosters have mental deficiencies and psychotic tendencies.

  21. highstick 12/19/2006 at 10:03 PM #

    BOT and Boosters have mental deficiencies and psychotic tendencies??? Stupid is as Stupid does! I really think Forrest Gump will be on their list of potential coaches before long!

  22. bTHEredterror 12/19/2006 at 10:10 PM #

    Good point Pup35. Bama has done this to themsleves, they’ve dumped on their own alums to try and please what is easily the most spoiled and unreasonable fanbase in SPORTS. They had Sylvester Croom sitting in their lap and didn’t have the guts to hire him, and then crapped on Shula before his first full recruiting class were even juniors! If you felt embarassed by our coaching search for Sidney, they are downright humiliated by the turn of events their search has brought on them. My pops is an alum, and he was stunned when they got rid of Shula, and in genuine disbelief that nobody high profile wants the job. And if you compare this to the Herb Sendek debacle, there is very little MM disapproval by comparison for Bama’s actions. I heard one analyst kind of justify the move by saying he lost to Auburn 3 years, and did just go 6-6. True, but this after winning 10 the year before with a patchwork offensive line. And just for bailing them out of their last self inflicted wound (Mike Price) he should have got one .500 mulligan. We look like we have the patience of Job for waiting 10 years, next to their 18 month coach cycle. Bet you nobody goes to Bama next year and hammers their fans for their lack of patience on national TV, though.

  23. redfred2 12/20/2006 at 12:26 AM #

    WolfPup35, I want to be perfectly clear on this now. So what you’re sayin is, that what really you think is, and just in your own personal opinion… McCAULEY IS A FREAKING MONSTER!!!!

    Am I correct in that statement?

  24. redfred2 12/20/2006 at 1:07 AM #

    TOB wanted this job. I don’t exactly how, but I have been told that O’Brien had somehow directly signaled his desire well before Amato was actually fired. I don’t think the $35K is necessarily exorbitant, but I do think Neinas was hired because the higher ups weren’t going to take any risk on a similar fiasco as before. Neinas must be good, and I’m fairly certain with his reputation he could undoubtably handle some of the delicate behind scenes negotiations more skillfully than they were handled in the BB search. Maybe even though he wasn’t essentially necessary on this particular hire, at least someone in Raleigh had the good sense to go ahead and pay up in order to have quiet and a safety net, just in case.

  25. class of 74 12/20/2006 at 6:17 AM #

    Neinas is the crutch of weak AD’s. The Todd Turner’s. Lee Fowler’s and Dickie Badour’s of the world need a guy like that, but not the Ron Wellman types of AD’s. Given the general incompetence of LF it was a good move to have Neinas and besides it’s history, it’s done, we have a good coach at a relatively bargain price, so let’s back him and see if he can become a great coach.

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