Vitale & SI: ‘Give Sendek Some Time’

The broken record continues at State…

…that is Arizona State now!

Last week Sports Illustrated ran an (old favorite) article titled “Playing Catch-up” that focused on Herb Sendek’s current situation at Arizona State.

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We just can’t get over the ucanniness of the consistency of the horribly down-trodden positions that poor old Herb always seems to find himself as compared to other coaches. Equally consistent to how tough Herb always seems to have it is the fact that undefined future is always amazingly (and undefinably) bright!

“He’s trying to build a dynasty,” point guard Antwi Atuahene said.

^Wow! When did he start aiming for the moon? Good luck getting him to ever say that in public.

Sendek cancelled/postponed ASU’s media day this year because he was too busy for it; the need to visit a prospective recruit outweighed the free publicity and attention that media day would bring the program. To be honest – the odds are very high that – in the Phoenix market – the need to visit a prospective recruit really DID outweigh the amount of attention that Arizona State’s Basketball program would attract during media day.

Before Sendek’s ASU program lost its top two scorer’s from last year, we truly expected the Sun Devils to be vastly improved by Sendek’s style, discipline, scheduling strategy and x-and-o coaching ability. Jeff previously indicated on an ASU Message Board that he expected a nice overall record that would put the Sun Devils on the periphery of some people’s NCAA Bubble that would burst but ultimately earn teh Sun Devils an NIT bid. This would have been a huge stride for Sun Devils program (11-19 last year) and was an obvious indicator of our respect for Coach Sendek’s ability to make an immediate impact on a program’s existing talent.

But, the Sun Devils DID lose their two top scorers. And…isn’t the unexpected attrition of key players to unexpected situations a decade-long trend that plagued Sendek in Raleigh? Aren’t those “woe is me / hard luck” situations EXACTLY a part of the chasm that divided the “wait til next year” crowd that only once in a decade was able to rest easy in March for a guaranteed NCAA Tournament bid?

In other news items of note, Dick Vitale chimed in with some comments on Herb Sendek and Jeff Capel over at ESPN a few weeks ago.

You really have to love the consistency in Vitale’s perspective on Sendek – “Give him (undefined and unlimited) time!” and all will be well. Additionally, Vitale’s selectivity of what is important to highlight in Sendek’s record is also consistent.

Sendek led his NC State teams to five 20-win seasons in the past seven years.

Of course, we all remember that Sendek coached for ten years in Raleigh; not just the “past seven”. But, give Vitale credit for being consistent in harping on the total number of wins without mention of the embarassing out of conference schedules that Sendek used to build those 20-win seasons.

STOP IT!…we are going to stop it…we could get sucked into the same old pattern of defending NC State with facts and numbers for almost every comment that Vitale made…but, we are going to stop. Vitale states that he

firmly believe Sendek was never appreciated by the fans.

and nothing that we say is going to change that…even when Vitale’s OWN COMMENTS indicate that he thinks that NC State needed more energy on the sidelines and that he thinks that Sidney Lowe is a “flat-out winner”. He talks so much that he can’t keep his stories consitent.

รขโ‚ฌล“N.C. State has to look for someone who has charisma, someone who can get that energy back. [Former coach] Herb Sendek was a terrific X-and-O guy and did a good job doing what he was supposed to do, but State needs someone who can get that enthusiasm back to the way it used to be.”

In the long run, he will have his team prepared and ready to play. Sendek is a solid X and O guy, and it will take a little time to build the program.

Why are we even worrying about this? We all know that we don’t take advice from Dick!

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33 Responses to Vitale & SI: ‘Give Sendek Some Time’

  1. GoldenChain 10/26/2006 at 11:39 AM #

    I stopped reading when I got to the comment by Jeff about what Herb did with us and would do at ASU that said ” ….improved shot selection”.
    ASU must have really been taking some terrible shots if holding the ball for 34 seconds then jacking up a wild 3 with two defenders will be an improvement!
    Seriously, your right that his style will instantly improve the result, I don’t doubt it because he will ‘stay in the game’. No doubt that will allow him to sneak up on some folks especially the first couple of years. Lord knows if Herb could take LR’s kids and have a winning record then he couldn’t be any worse off.

    However I will say that the problem with Herbs style is that he never completely had all the pieces he needed to make it work consistently at State and I think (hope?) we had a lot more resources to get the right kids than does ASU.
    I honestly don’t think success will be any easier because (as I’ve said before) the horses in the PAC 10 aren’t much (any) easier than the horses in the ACC and ASU probably has a lot more ground to make up that NCSU did.

  2. ShootingGuard 10/26/2006 at 2:22 PM #

    Mr O,

    I totally agree with your post…

    I think the thing to be excited about with Sid’s recruiting is that in just a few months recruiting for the first time on the college level, if he can come through with Tracy Smith and one (maybe even 2) of the other possibilities, Sid will be AT or possibly even BETTER at the start than Sendek was in recruiting toward the end of a 10-year tenure…

    That statement is not meant to cut on Herb as Sid benefits from Herb making State more competitive (although Lee Fowler may have destroyed that goodwill value with the terrible coaching search), and Larry Harris as well as Pete Strickland and Monte Towe get a lot of credit.

    But, IF the 2007 class comes through as hoped and we get an early start on 2008 as hoped, you have to feel pretty good about Sid’s potential success considering the uphill battle he has had to fight through…Charisma goes a LONG way…

    While I am not going to cut on guys like Miller, Kelley, and Inge who stuck it out for the Pack, I have to think that Sid’s first 2 classes will certainly contribute to more success—and quicker success—than Ron Anderson and Rouldra Thomas as well as Herb’s entire second class of Adam Harrington and Keith Bean…If you want to understand why Herb never made it big at State, you need only look to those 4 guys plus the misses on Al Harrington (straight to NBA guy) and Schea Cotton. Lowe CAN do much better, much quicker IF he can avoid 6 landmines like that in his first 2 classes…So far, there is reason to believe that Lowe CAN actually do just that…An appreciation of past glory + giddy optimism and charisma are a powerful combination for a head coach to have…

  3. Mr O 10/26/2006 at 5:39 PM #

    Agree shooting guard. Herb’s first two classes had more recruiting misses than makes. Of course that was Herb at age 33, Larry Harris 10 years ago, a very young S. Miller and a very young John Groce.

    Now we have Sidney Lowe’s 20 years of experience in college and pro basketball, a seasoned Larry Harris(one of the best in the business now), and two former head coaches on the staff in Towe and Strickland.

    Not to knock Herb and his original staff at all, but our current staff simply has more experience so hopefully the talent evaluations will be much, much improved with the current staff.

    Out of Herb’s first three classes(not counting Gainey/Wells/Thornton), we really only got three guys who had what I would call successful ACC careers(J. Gainey, K. Inge, A. Miller, and A. Grundy). We had some marginal ACC guys in Crawford/Kelley/Thornton. But really the program didn’t come together until the class of Sherrill/Melvin/Bell were sophmores which timed perfectly with the arrival of Hodge/Powell/Evitmov and the sr. years of Grundy and Miller(Miller only due to a redshirt).

  4. Mr O 10/26/2006 at 5:51 PM #

    OK, so maybe I did include Herb’s first official class with Gainey ๐Ÿ™‚

    I remember how excited I was back then. Wonder when we will have our first Byron Mouton type of recruit?

  5. legacyman 10/26/2006 at 8:12 PM #

    I don’t know if Sid and his coaches will be better talent judges than the previous HC and Larry Harris as most coaches can easily tell if a kid has athletic ability and bball talent. Predicting where the kid will fit into your scheme and your player family is a bit more difficult.

    Actually signing the talent is where I believe Sidney will excel over the previous HC although I don’t have much history on which to base that. If early committments for next year are any indication then it appears we are well on our way.

  6. redfred2 10/27/2006 at 12:06 AM #

    Grant and Fells had a great half pushing the ball in tandem against Cal in the first round of the tourney. Up until then it had always appeared to me that Fells was looking over shoulder too much, wondering if he was doing everything just right. Maybe even moreso with G Grant. Both seemed to be over thinking their every move on the court instead of just playing bball like they know how. The very early news about the players is encouraging to me.

    Even though we’re pretty much coming back from the dead, we’ll get better, and I don’t think we’ll finish DEAD, or last, this season.

  7. class of 74 10/28/2006 at 8:38 AM #

    I’m glad that a buyers remorse clause doesn’t apply for ASU. As I’ve said before, if you have not been caught cheating, Vitale will never say anything negative about a coach or his record.

    SFN: The cheating has nothing to do with it. He loved/loves Rick Pitino, Eddie Sutton, Roy Williams, Lou Henson and a host of other coaches who have all been caught cheating.

  8. packbackr04 10/31/2006 at 11:03 AM #

    come on Vitale. this is like saying “give fascism a little more time and it will catch on”

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