Stats From Saturday NC State Scrimmage: Stone 8 of 18, 121 yards, 2 INT’s

For the second straight week Marcus Stone has put up very soft numbers in a pre-season scrimmage. Every summer you hope the player who didn’t perform at a high level last year has developed into a completely changed player. Lets hope we run the ball a lot this season.

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40 Responses to Stats From Saturday NC State Scrimmage: Stone 8 of 18, 121 yards, 2 INT’s

  1. redfred2 08/21/2006 at 1:15 PM #

    If you’re throwing to a spot, and the receiver is wide open but three yards off on his route, who looks bad? Give the kid a break. I would take his game day winning percentages from here to eternity.

  2. choppack1 08/21/2006 at 1:22 PM #

    BJD 95 – I’m reserving judgement as well. However, it’s kind of scary that Stone’s #s in scrimmages appear to be very similar to Stone’s #s in games last year. However, I don’t care what his #s are if his winning percentage remains 86%

  3. RickJ 08/21/2006 at 2:54 PM #

    There is an interesting article by Jim Young of the Greensboro News & Record in today’s paper about the size of our receivers. Below are a few quotes:

    “That’s one of the things that we feel pretty good about,” said receivers coach Dwayne Dixon. “With red-zone stuff” — inside the opponent’s 20 — “we should be pretty darned good with the size we have.”

    “They were saying they wanted big receivers — big, physical, deep-ball players,” Jarvis Williams said. “They want to go deep this year.”

    “It was a logical move for State. Amato and offensive coordinator Marc Trestman knew starting quarterback Marcus Stone had the arm strength needed for a vertical passing game. They also knew the presence of running backs Andre Brown and Toney Baker would force most defenses to stack the line in an effort to stop the run. Why not bring in a group of tall wideouts who could lope down the field after Stone’s rainbows, then out-jump shorter defensive backs to haul in the ball?â€?

    I too, very much appreciated the RAWFS article on the West Coast offense but the above sounds like we may be viewing a modified version (Please – no jokes about the modified Princeton offense).

    Holtz & Sheridan’s offenses were primarily run oriented but both had the capacity to really hurt a team with 2 or 3 big pass plays in a game. Maybe this is what we are looking to do. A QB can hit a low percentage of passes and be very effective if he doesn’t throw many interceptions and can hit a couple of big plays a game. This is in some ways the opposite of Rivers but I think it might play to Stone’s strengths.

  4. cfpack03 08/21/2006 at 3:38 PM #

    I can’t help but get excited about Burke’s potential. There have been some pretty compelling articles about him recently. Hopefully we can redshirt him this year.

  5. primacyone 08/21/2006 at 4:22 PM #

    Anybody every heard of Ohio State and the Ohio State Offense?

    I’ll take the run the ball down your throat with an occasional over the top pass all day and all night, I don’t care what they call it. It’s a win, win. Control the clock, reduce the risk of interceptions that hurt you, and get a big over the top play every now and then. We may take a big sack or two evey game, but those are not interceptions.

    Based on Stone’s play last season, this would be right up his ally. I would say it fits in to Daryl Blackman’s talents also. I can see Daryl being really good at the mid range over the middle pass. Man to man or zone, if you can get Daryl the ball at full stride, I believe he can make a corner and safty wish they were somewhere else.

    As far as the formation’s goes, I think we could see everything under the Sun. Heck we may even see a wishbone and a motioned flanker all on pass action with an over the top pass to the tight end running straight down the field. But the Power I with fresh legs on evey play seems promising.

    As far as the scrimmage goes, I don’t think Stone played the second half, and you know how he was last year. It was comforting to see those Danny Evans numbers.

    I will not make any modified Princeton offense jokes, but it’s nice to have a coach that will adjust to the teams greatest abilities, versus trying to force players into the coaches single style for 10 years straight.

  6. choppack1 08/21/2006 at 5:15 PM #

    Primacy1 – Contigent on that plan of attack is the ability to stop another offense dead in its tracks.

  7. BorntoHowl 08/21/2006 at 5:23 PM #

    Chuck needs W’s to bring in the better rated talent. The coaching staff has been turned over for stability, and now it’s time to produce. We have the talent to win 9 games this year with a couple of good bounces. The very visible exception is at QB. We can’t afford another 2-4 start this year. Mediocre stats against the no 2 practice defense won’t win any ACC games. I hope moving Burke up to playing against the no 1 defense is in preparation for what these scrimmage stats are indicating. There’s nothing like pressure to bring out someone’s true capabilities. Competition is good, and may the best man win. We’re missing a significant portion of “we’re all we’ve got” to make up deficiencies this year on the other side of the line of scrimmage.

  8. brown pelican 08/21/2006 at 10:45 PM #

    don’t sell evans short—he can get the job done—modern offensive football at the college level has evolved to the point where the qb position is more important than ever—ralph fridgen could serve as a reference here—further last new years winners were primarily spread teams—texas, west va. (coach rod the spread guru—tulane/clemson), penn state, fla—spread ’em out—give our rb’s some running lanes—and—stretch ’em vertical when they stack the box—otherwise—take three alleve and hope the defense and the special teams can get the job done

  9. noah 08/22/2006 at 11:04 AM #

    There are no starting pitchers in football. So the whole, “He’s 5-1 as a starter!” thing is just hand-waving.

    I expect Stone to be a slightly more experienced, slightly more knowledgeable version of the highly erratic QB he was in his previous two seasons.

    He’s still going to look like an all-pro on one play and Garo Yapremiam on the next one.

  10. tcthdi-tgsf-twhwtnc 08/22/2006 at 11:55 AM #

    There are no starting pitchers in football. So the whole, “He’s 5-1 as a starter!� thing is just hand-waving.

    If the team went 1-5 with Stone starting it would be his record. Let the kid enjoy what he was able to accomplish last year along with the team and the coaches. He helped turn around one of the most pathetic teams in the country at mid-season. The QB isn’t a pitcher (as if a pitcher doesn’t have a team) but he is the leader.

  11. redfred2 08/23/2006 at 12:49 AM #


    He’s 5-1, led the team up out of the doldrums to a winning season, won the only bowl they could get into, the season hasn’t even started, yet people are already bitching. There’s certainly no undeserved pressure on that young man that I can detect.

    I’d have give some of the credit to his coach at this point also.

    Maybe there’s some validity to the press afterall. I may need to consider rethinking all of my ‘lunatic fringe’ theories.

  12. Devon162 08/23/2006 at 1:29 AM #

    Before we get too carried away… our football team ended the season with wins over Southern Mississippi, Middle Tennessee State, a struggling Maryland team, and the University of South Florida. There was a wholly unexpected win over Florida State in there but also a loss to Boston College. Everyone seems to remember the Pack going 5-1 over the last 6 games but no one mentions over whom. Are we going to be bouncing off the walls if this team starts the season 2-0 against App. State and Akron?

    Let’s talk about conference wins and losses. Better yet, let’s not. Let’s wait and see how they fare against App. State. If anyone really wants to chat about last year, try not to pretend that all opponents are equal and that last year was impressive in any way.

  13. primacyone 08/23/2006 at 9:31 AM #


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  14. noah 08/23/2006 at 9:57 AM #

    The only thing Stone led State in was most number of games where the starting QB failed to complete a single pass in the first half.

    Andre Brown and the defense deserve credit for that 5-1 finish last year.

  15. redfred2 08/23/2006 at 10:46 AM #

    That’s MY point. Let’s not get carried away talking trash about the kid who may not have played particularly well personally but WAS at the helm during a five game winning streak. Let’s try to stay positive about the players and winning regardless of the schedule, the players have no control over that anyway.

    And yes, it is a good thing that the D and A Brown were there to pick up the slack. Irregardless of who we were lined up against last season ended with the team headed in a new direction and on a positive note, the season will start soon enough, hold off on the negativity until it is actually warranted.

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