50/50 (Update 9:00 AM)

Updated @ 9:00am

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Today could be the day…or it might not be the day.

That is how good…and bad that we feel right now.

By now, it is no secret that NC State has engaged in significant talks with Memphis Head Coach John Calipari.

Although some reports indicate that a contract offer was not made and talks will continue, we can’t imagine a scenario where NC State loads up its Athletics Director and Chancellor to meet face to face with Calipari if an offer was not discussed; this opinion is underscored by Dave Glenn who shares more details than other sources and says that State’s $1.7 million offer “overwhelmed” Calipari.

* We think Memphis is working very hard behind the scenes to pull something together to appease Coach Cal. But, Glenn’s comments on compensation makes us feel a little better:

“He used the word ‘overwhelming,'” the source said. “He said, going into the meeting, he was just going to listen. He came out and said he doesn’t think there’s any way Memphis can afford to pay the kind of money N.C. State is offering.”

One possible explanation for Calipari’s apparent skepticism about Memphis’ ability to match NCSU’s offer is the stark contrast in the size of the schools’ athletic budgets. According to tax forms, NCAA-sponsored data and other resources, the Tigers’ athletic department spent about $24.3 million during the 2004-05 fiscal year, compared to more than $37 million for the Wolfpack.

* We think that the folks at NC State have more confidence about the Calipari situation than they are letting on. But, our sources tell us that Memphis is working hard behind the scenes. Since the job has not formally been accepted, then Memphis has a shot.

* Are we on the verge of greatness again or are we about to suffer a huge embarrassment? Fifteen years have ingrained in all of us to fear the “other shoe dropping”. SFN thinks the race is currently as too close to call. The rational side of the analysis really leans towards Calipari coming to State. But, one cannot look at this chain of events and not fear a Jim Valvano and UCLA scenario where we are suddenly UCLA.

* One notable difference between the Valvano/UCLA situation and the Cal/NCSU situation is that Valvano was more deeply rooted in Raleigh and at NC State than Calipari at Memphis. As we all know, Raleigh / NC State / ACC is a very unique situation and Valvano loved it here. In addition to being one of the most established coaches in the ACC, he was one of the biggest celebrities in the conference and the area, which he wouldn’t have been at UCLA.

* We think that any announcement today – the earlier the better – would be a positive thing for NC State. It would make sense that Memphis can’t just snap their fingers and make money appear. That takes time. If they could make the money appear so quickly, why haven’t they before today? The wild card in this is, of course, Fed Ex founder Fred Smith. He can snap his fingers and make money appear.

* If this became a financial pissing contest, we would expect it to go no higher than $2 million per year. At that point the difference is going to come down to the allure of the ACC vs Calipari’s established program (and personal life) in/at Memphis. The Tigers have a legitimate opportunity to make national noise next year on the court.

* We are on high alert expecting that an answer could literally come at any moment. The longer that this drags out past mid-day on Tuesday, the worse it is for NC State. We say Tuesday because if Memphis finds a way to match the offer today, then we wouldn’t be surprised to see NC State reach back into the vault and raise the stakes.

* By all accounts, Sunday’s flight and meeting with Calipari was not designed to be public. This is why SFN did not reference the flight until hours after message board posters all over the internet were tracking the plane. The last thing that we would want to do is negatively impact the search; which is also why most of what you have been reading here are comments after things have developed and analysis on the information.

* The public revelantion of the flight/meeting should not hurt us with Calipari. In fact, it may help us as it ultimately accelerates his timetable and puts Memphis under a tougher time contraint to move quickly. The shorter the time, the harder it is for Memphis to get their ducks in a row. All we do is counter with a higher number and they have to try to do it again.

* The public nature of the news WILL hurt NC State from a PR perspective if we miss on Calipari. That is why we are saying that we haven’t offered to anyone that will listen.

* 1090 AM in Raleigh is reporting that NC State spoke with Villanova Head Coach, Jay Wright on Saturday. This would help explain a comment that Wright (seemingly inadvertently) slipped into an interview over the weekend that referenced State and Calipari’s conversations. SFN has no confirmation on this and we don’t know if this contact was “official” (ie – made through Fowler or the Wolfpack Club).

* We think that the Wolfpack Club, Lee Fowler, and NC State have made their play and we are very appreciative for the effort. It sounds like State has done all that we can do at this point.

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194 Responses to 50/50 (Update 9:00 AM)

  1. monte kiffin 04/10/2006 at 9:35 AM #

    ” Hungry like the wolf”

  2. 155mm 04/10/2006 at 9:36 AM #

    ” Inetersting that Calipari is leaking all the financial info to the press. That seems like he might be trying to put pressure on Memphis to step up. If no news in the next 24 hours, then it is definite bad news for State imo.”

    Every year Calipari would use someone as leverage to get a raise. This time I don’t think it is leverage, I think he is gone. It is a little surprising to me they have not already inked this deal, but perhaps the chancellor needed some face time to go back and sell this to some academic knucklehead at NCSU that “has reservationsâ€?. It would be a shame if Cal does not get hired for some past perceived sins. The NCAA cleared him and he graduates a lot of players in comparison to a Bob Huggins type. I would like to see Cal stay at Memphis, but for the coin being offered I think he leaves. I hope Cal does well either way.

    BTW – nice blog.

  3. dantheman 04/10/2006 at 9:44 AM #

    It is a sunny day with the smell of hope in the air. Is this a trick?
    For the record, dantheman is 50/50 – 50% excited and 50% nervous.
    Did anyone dream of birdies last night or was it just me???

  4. PittsburghPackFan 04/10/2006 at 9:44 AM #

    ^I know what you mean…this is my crack! I’m a hopeless addict!

  5. motorhead 04/10/2006 at 9:53 AM #

    I tried Calipari’s strategy. I told my principal that another school was recruiting me to teach there next year. He wished me luck. No $600 000 raise.

  6. RAWFS 04/10/2006 at 9:55 AM #

    Rather than one of my infamously long-winded posts, I will instead link to a piece I posted this morning pointing out who it was that really drove this story yesterday. I woud honestly put SFN ahead of the N&O and WRAL as far as good sources for news for this story, and it is amusing how Glenn and Zarzour are saying apparently contradictory things.

    The Media and The “Marketplace of Truth.”

  7. class of 74 04/10/2006 at 9:58 AM #

    I don’t know this as fact but from what it appears, Wendell has the most concern or as much as anyone in the tight circle that is making the choice. If the official offer is made it will be made today and then Calipari is on the clock so to speak.

  8. cfpack03 04/10/2006 at 9:58 AM #

    I thought Wright stated he wasn’t interested 7 days ago? Now he (and his wife) sees how much $$$ we’re throwing out so we have his attention again. My view: he’s stirring up leverage for a raise

  9. class of 74 04/10/2006 at 10:01 AM #

    ^^^For what it’s worth Zarzour is closer than Glenn to the real deal makers.

  10. 155mm 04/10/2006 at 10:03 AM #

    Whoever the guy was that came up with the plane tracking idea… well that is one nice piece of internet detective work. I wonder if people will resort to using undercover planes in the future.

  11. coppertop 04/10/2006 at 10:12 AM #

    Internet stalking…. awesome! 🙂

    I hope he comes to us and decides soon, the wait is getting to me!

  12. SaccoV 04/10/2006 at 10:13 AM #

    If anyone is interested, Glenn is supposed to be on 790 the Ball at 10:30 AM, during the Bill Kimm Show if anyone is reading and/or listening in the triad. I don’t think the station has it’s online stream ready to listen around the world.

  13. danmanley2299 04/10/2006 at 10:14 AM #

    If something isnt decided soon, I may lose my job. Lets see the number of hours reading NCSU sites last week 38, number of hours working 2.

  14. class of 74 04/10/2006 at 10:16 AM #

    ^And people wonder why the NCSU job is one of the best in the nation. There’s your answer.

  15. GoldenChain 04/10/2006 at 10:17 AM #

    You know, this very site reported Calipari’s strong interest in the job and how he had contacted State through various means repeatedly from the very beginning.
    I would buy the idea that the Chancellor needed to do some selling back home on a couple of fine points.

  16. VaWolf82 04/10/2006 at 10:23 AM #

    DG jumped the shark several years ago with me. He implied that Amato was crooked and out-right lied about the SAT scores of UNC’s FB team. The State fans that think so highly of Glenn would have a completely different opinion if they heard the comments he makes about State and Amato when he calls into local sports-talk show here in VA.

    From a UNC grad…..Glenn’s fondest fantasy is for the black helicopters of the NCAA to attack the Murphy Center and haul Amato away.

  17. Cardiff Giant 04/10/2006 at 10:25 AM #

    ^ Interesting. My only previous problem with him is that his picture on his blog is completely ridiculous. Looks like a schoolkid bursting to pee.

  18. VaWolf82 04/10/2006 at 10:30 AM #

    I wonder if people will resort to using undercover planes in the future.

    Several weeks ago, the Cowboys’ scout.com site was tracking Jerry Jones’ plane to try and see if he was meeting with TO. The hardest part would seem to be coming up with the right tail number.

    It is not that hard to have kept Sunday’s trip a secret. There are companies that lease these corporate jets for trips. The company I work for does this as do other companies in the area. Since the plane owner/operator has several different Citation jets, it would be impossible to use flightaware to track any given company.

    Fowler loses secrecy, but probably saves money using Murphy’s plane. It’s all a matter of priorities.

  19. 155mm 04/10/2006 at 10:37 AM #

    Having watched Cal work for five years, he is jockeying for more money at this point. He’s in the middle of a bidding war – or more likely a perceived bidding war – because I don’t see Memphis paying Barnes type money. Memphis is trying to keep their football coach too who has been to three straight bowls.

    Every year when Cal redid his deal he went to great pains to say it was not about the money, but he always came away with more money. Some years he got a lot more. He’s going to play the “I have a great team coming back� card for as much money as he can get, but I don’t see him turning down Barnes type money. NCSU has to be pissed about the plane leaking. Who would want to lose out on a coach in public like this twice in a row. I think it is just a matter of pot sweetening at this point on the part of NCSU.

    Just my sense of things…

  20. J-wolf 04/10/2006 at 10:47 AM #

    I don’t think Fowler & Co were quite ready for the rabidity of the Internet Fan Community and our investigative abilities. I sincerely think that they were caught unaware by the amount of buzz the flight to Memphis actually caused.

  21. hoop 04/10/2006 at 10:49 AM #

    Unfortunately, I read this as Coach Cal simply trying to get more money from Memphis. Why else would he leak that he was ‘overwhelmed’ by the NC State offer? Like Barnes, I think his current situation is too good to leave.

  22. WTNY 04/10/2006 at 10:54 AM #

    *I don’t think Fowler & Co were quite ready for the rabidity of the Internet Fan Community and our investigative abilities.*

    Time will tell if this has been a good thing. I have my doubts.

  23. cfpack03 04/10/2006 at 11:05 AM #

    We all have our doubts b/c we, as state fans, have been psychologically conditioned, over the last 15 yrs, to expect disappointment and mentally prepare for a letdown. Maybe this time, we’ll all have something to cheer about.

  24. DavidThompson 04/10/2006 at 11:06 AM #

    This is kinda getting to be like the Rick Barnes deal. A slow response usually equals a NO. Though I still have not lost hope in getting Calipari but I wish people would tell us yes or no instead of using us for a chance to get a raise and slowing down our coach hiring process. This is getting to be nerve racking. Do you people here think we have a shoy at him really or is this just another “Let me get a good raise and then I will say No”

  25. RAWFS 04/10/2006 at 11:09 AM #

    David, they only met yesterday.

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