50/50 (Update 9:00 AM)

Updated @ 9:00am

Sunday Evening UpdateJob is Cal’s if He Wants it

Sunday Afternoon UpdateWheels in Motion?

Today could be the day…or it might not be the day.

That is how good…and bad that we feel right now.

By now, it is no secret that NC State has engaged in significant talks with Memphis Head Coach John Calipari.

Although some reports indicate that a contract offer was not made and talks will continue, we can’t imagine a scenario where NC State loads up its Athletics Director and Chancellor to meet face to face with Calipari if an offer was not discussed; this opinion is underscored by Dave Glenn who shares more details than other sources and says that State’s $1.7 million offer “overwhelmed” Calipari.

* We think Memphis is working very hard behind the scenes to pull something together to appease Coach Cal. But, Glenn’s comments on compensation makes us feel a little better:

“He used the word ‘overwhelming,'” the source said. “He said, going into the meeting, he was just going to listen. He came out and said he doesn’t think there’s any way Memphis can afford to pay the kind of money N.C. State is offering.”

One possible explanation for Calipari’s apparent skepticism about Memphis’ ability to match NCSU’s offer is the stark contrast in the size of the schools’ athletic budgets. According to tax forms, NCAA-sponsored data and other resources, the Tigers’ athletic department spent about $24.3 million during the 2004-05 fiscal year, compared to more than $37 million for the Wolfpack.

* We think that the folks at NC State have more confidence about the Calipari situation than they are letting on. But, our sources tell us that Memphis is working hard behind the scenes. Since the job has not formally been accepted, then Memphis has a shot.

* Are we on the verge of greatness again or are we about to suffer a huge embarrassment? Fifteen years have ingrained in all of us to fear the “other shoe dropping”. SFN thinks the race is currently as too close to call. The rational side of the analysis really leans towards Calipari coming to State. But, one cannot look at this chain of events and not fear a Jim Valvano and UCLA scenario where we are suddenly UCLA.

* One notable difference between the Valvano/UCLA situation and the Cal/NCSU situation is that Valvano was more deeply rooted in Raleigh and at NC State than Calipari at Memphis. As we all know, Raleigh / NC State / ACC is a very unique situation and Valvano loved it here. In addition to being one of the most established coaches in the ACC, he was one of the biggest celebrities in the conference and the area, which he wouldn’t have been at UCLA.

* We think that any announcement today – the earlier the better – would be a positive thing for NC State. It would make sense that Memphis can’t just snap their fingers and make money appear. That takes time. If they could make the money appear so quickly, why haven’t they before today? The wild card in this is, of course, Fed Ex founder Fred Smith. He can snap his fingers and make money appear.

* If this became a financial pissing contest, we would expect it to go no higher than $2 million per year. At that point the difference is going to come down to the allure of the ACC vs Calipari’s established program (and personal life) in/at Memphis. The Tigers have a legitimate opportunity to make national noise next year on the court.

* We are on high alert expecting that an answer could literally come at any moment. The longer that this drags out past mid-day on Tuesday, the worse it is for NC State. We say Tuesday because if Memphis finds a way to match the offer today, then we wouldn’t be surprised to see NC State reach back into the vault and raise the stakes.

* By all accounts, Sunday’s flight and meeting with Calipari was not designed to be public. This is why SFN did not reference the flight until hours after message board posters all over the internet were tracking the plane. The last thing that we would want to do is negatively impact the search; which is also why most of what you have been reading here are comments after things have developed and analysis on the information.

* The public revelantion of the flight/meeting should not hurt us with Calipari. In fact, it may help us as it ultimately accelerates his timetable and puts Memphis under a tougher time contraint to move quickly. The shorter the time, the harder it is for Memphis to get their ducks in a row. All we do is counter with a higher number and they have to try to do it again.

* The public nature of the news WILL hurt NC State from a PR perspective if we miss on Calipari. That is why we are saying that we haven’t offered to anyone that will listen.

* 1090 AM in Raleigh is reporting that NC State spoke with Villanova Head Coach, Jay Wright on Saturday. This would help explain a comment that Wright (seemingly inadvertently) slipped into an interview over the weekend that referenced State and Calipari’s conversations. SFN has no confirmation on this and we don’t know if this contact was “official” (ie – made through Fowler or the Wolfpack Club).

* We think that the Wolfpack Club, Lee Fowler, and NC State have made their play and we are very appreciative for the effort. It sounds like State has done all that we can do at this point.

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194 Responses to 50/50 (Update 9:00 AM)

  1. Andy 04/10/2006 at 3:21 PM #

    Oh just incase anyone wasnt stressed enough espn’s chad ford says:

    “Several NBA sources claimed that North Carolina State’s Cedric Simmons was leaning strongly toward declaring for the draft — adding another talented underclassman to the pool. Sources said that the departure of Herb Sendek at North Carolina State is the primary motivation for Simmons’ departure.”

  2. danmanley2299 04/10/2006 at 3:22 PM #

    Glen just said that in hour 2 he will have a guy on from the Memphis paper to talk about the situation.

  3. BJD95 04/10/2006 at 3:24 PM #

    When it rains, it pours…

  4. DavidThompson 04/10/2006 at 3:24 PM #

    Not a good move for Simmons. He is going to be another Josh Powell who fails and has to struggle to make a team a few years down the line after time spent overseas. Also lots of money to be lost as well.

  5. Jeremy Hyatt 04/10/2006 at 3:24 PM #

    Simmons is not ready… that is silly

  6. PittsburghPackFan 04/10/2006 at 3:24 PM #

    ^Thanks, Chris92Heel.

  7. roon7723 04/10/2006 at 3:25 PM #

    everyone else needs to quit refreshing soo much becuase it is slowing down how quickly i can refresh

  8. JimmyVguy 04/10/2006 at 3:28 PM #

    If Josh Powell had stayed one more year…he would’ve been a 1st round lock. Cedrick Simmons is the same way…he just needs one more year.

  9. Andy 04/10/2006 at 3:28 PM #

    I agree its too early for Simmons to leave but heres the evaluation ford gave:

    “Simmons didn’t play a minute this week, but with indications that he might declare, combined with the announcement that Noah and Horford are planning to return to Florida, scouts began to talk up Simmons as a first-round sleeper.

    Simmons is another long, athletic big man with plenty of potential. Like Sene, he is a shot blocker and a good rebounder. And, like Sene, he’s very raw offensively.

    While he was dominant at times this season (a 28-point game against Duke really put him on the radar screen), for the most part, Simmons looked closer to Ben Wallace than Amare Stoudemire.

    Currently scouts have him rated as a bubble first-round pick who projects just ahead of Josh Boone of UConn. However, with great workouts and some more weight training (another 20 pounds wouldn’t hurt Simmons either), he could be another sleeper.”

    Ok Ok I’m done hijacking the discussion

  10. PittsburghPackFan 04/10/2006 at 3:30 PM #

    Andy, THEY said the same thing about Powell. “Could be a 1st round sleeper”.

    C’mon back Ced, the fans weren’t booing you!

  11. WestCoast 04/10/2006 at 3:31 PM #

    Anyone check the flight status to see if Lee’s been out and about again?

  12. danmanley2299 04/10/2006 at 3:31 PM #

    some guy named Herman said on 850thebuzz that we will know something by tomorrow. Did not catch who Herman was, I was actually trying to get in my 30 minutes of work in between refreshing websites.

  13. primacyone 04/10/2006 at 3:34 PM #

    No main post at sfn homepage.

  14. primacyone 04/10/2006 at 3:34 PM #

    Sorry. New main post at the homepage.

  15. WestCoast 04/10/2006 at 3:36 PM #

    Lee had better be meeting with Ced after he got back from Memphis yesterday! He needs to stay. Just look what Cali did for his big guys this year. I think they averaged like 10 dunks a game. That’s what you call an inside game!

  16. JimmyVguy 04/10/2006 at 3:40 PM #

    The Cedrick Simmons situation is a great example of why the ncaa rules committee should consider giving a little bit of money to the college atheletes.

  17. monte kiffin 04/10/2006 at 3:45 PM #

    Please folks, lets not let paranoia set in, what will be will be…Anyone can just about talk themselves into anything, including a frenzy…let the chips fall where they may and we move from there.

  18. danmanley2299 04/10/2006 at 4:03 PM #

    Katz from ESPN saying that Calipari and staff are scheduled to visit Raleigh today to check out the facilities.

  19. danmanley2299 04/10/2006 at 4:05 PM #

    Gary Parrish from memphis paper saying his his job if he wants it. There are a handful of boosters trying to put together some more money to get him to stay. Sources close to Cal say they are going to offer base $1.5-1.7 mil plus annuity and bonuses.

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