Who’s Your Current ACC COY?

I think you could make a very solid case for at least 4 coaches, including all of Tobacco Road. Unbeaten in the league is worthy of consideration, regardless of whether it’s a down year in the ACC. So, Coach K is in the mix. Herb Sendek lost his best player and is producing the best results of his coaching tenure, managing to stay within striking distance of Duke – at 13 or 14 wins, he’d arguably be the strongest candidate, regardless of how the other guys finish. Roy Williams had ACC foes licking their chops at facing a very depleted UNC squad that lost their TOP SEVEN players from a national title squad that wasn’t known for having a deep, productive bench (and with the stellar recruiting class still a year away). But said chop-licking was premature, and Roy has a scrappy team (admit it, they would be extremely likeable if they weren’t wearing the powder blue) in secure position for an NCAA berth.

But I would still give the SLIGHT edge to Dave Leitao at this point. He’s taken a team expected to win 1 or 2 ACC games all year, and led them to a 5-5 mark (with Sean Singletary and a bunch of anonymous guys who just play hard). Basically, he’s to this season what Seth Greenberg was to last – but maybe even a notch more impressive. If he gets to 8 wins, I think he has to be the choice. Plus, in reality, he can monopolize the “Alaska” vote, while the NC sportswriters will split theirs up.

What does everyone else think?

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25 Responses to Who’s Your Current ACC COY?

  1. Jim 02/10/2006 at 4:33 PM #

    For some reason, coach of the year awards in all sports and leagues most often seem to go to a coach who takes a team perceived to be terrible and makes them mediocre. Leitao fits this profile.

  2. Eric 02/10/2006 at 5:26 PM #

    If he got it, he would give a standard line about considering it an honor, then chuck it in his attic and never think about it again. And that’s a great attribute to have in a coach. I think any COY awards are WAY overrated anyway.

    Although the media was lauding accolades on Pete Gillen after his 1st year with a depleted squad (remember his “If we had Cherokee Parks, we’d build a statue of him on campus” comment?), I have a feeling Dave will turn out to be the real deal for UVa in the long run.

  3. Greg 02/10/2006 at 5:55 PM #

    No matter what anyone says, Duke just doesnt impress me. With a squad FILLED with all americans, K has produced a team with only one loss….the problem? They just dont look good doing it and I can easily see them losing in the second or third round of the NCAA’s.

    With the best post player in the country and the best guard in the country, a supporting staff including nothing but Mickey-D’s players, and a LOT of help from the ref’s this year, you would think they would be beating a DOWN ACC conference by a much greater margin. With a little help from the refs, Duke could have three acc losses and tied with State for first. Oh well….

    With that said, undefeated is undefeated. I just am not impressed.

    (1) Roy – Losing the kind of talent he did? Impossible to believe he could finish 3rd in the conference with a little help.
    (2) Haith – Miami scares the bejesus out of any team they play.
    (3) Herb – Best wolfpack season in decades. Enough said.
    (4) Skippy – Somehow its kinda funny to see the Deacs struggle like this. Especially after how they have whacked on us the last few years. Gotta give him my sympathetic vote for #4 just so maybe he will leave and go to Cinci.

  4. kevin 02/10/2006 at 6:06 PM #

    Your analysis is spot on. However, I might think the folks over in W/S might argue they too are on tobacco road.

  5. Waxhaw 02/11/2006 at 8:12 AM #

    If Sendek goes 13-3, he deserves it. UNC an Virginia will be at lest 3-4 games behind that mark and NC State was preseason 6, so it’s not like they were picked high.

    Wehn you look at Virginia’s remaining schedule, they may not make the NCAA’s. They only have something like 11 wins.

  6. class of '74 02/11/2006 at 8:52 AM #

    It’s still close between Leitao and Roy. Looking ahead I’d say Roy but if UVa finishes at .500 in the league I’d say Leitao deserves it.

  7. VaWolf82 02/11/2006 at 9:52 AM #

    When is the voting done? Before or after the ACCT?

    I don’t think Roy has much of a chance unless UNC really turns it on. I would put him behind both Herb and Leitao.

    I think that it will be determined about how State and UVa look going down the stretch. If UVa gets a NCAAT bid, then Leitao gets it….end of discussion. If UVa finishes below .500 in the conference, then I expect Herb to get it unless UNC or BC substantially out-plays State down the stretch.

    State was picked no better than fourth in anything that I remember. Second place and several games ahead of third would put alot of votes on Herb.

    Skinner may still have an outside shot. But preseason #2 sets the expectations awfully high.

    Does it bother anyone else that the COY award has turned into the equivalent of Miss Congenality at a beauty pageant? The COY has become defined as the coach that most exceeds the media’s preseason expectations. With my opinion of the media in general, and more specifically sports writers…then using their preseason guesses as the benchmark to grade against bothers me.

  8. VaWolf82 02/11/2006 at 9:57 AM #

    PS….I can’t read Greg’s comments beyond “I just am not impressed.” on this page. Is anyone else having the same problem? If so, here’e what he wrote:

    Roy – Losing the kind of talent he did? Impossible to believe he could finish 3rd in the conference with a little help.

    Haith – Miami scares the bejesus out of any team they play.

    Herb – Best wolfpack season in decades. Enough said.

    Skippy – Somehow its kinda funny to see the Deacs struggle like this. Especially after how they have whacked on us the last few years. Gotta give him my sympathetic vote for #4 just so maybe he will leave and go to Cinci.

  9. class of '74 02/11/2006 at 10:15 AM #

    I remember preseson predictions as Duke, BC, then State or WF depending on the media source, then Maryland, GT, Miami, UNC, VPI, FSU and Clemson in an interchangeable pod with UVA in the rear.

  10. PACDADDY 02/11/2006 at 12:13 PM #

    (1)…K…if he goes undefeated and Herb loses one more game. 16-0 deserves COY

    (2)…Herb…if we win out. One loss by us and Duke would still put Herb at top.

    (3)…Roy…if they finish 3rd. The job Roy has done this season, is quite impressive, but the talent he’s got should be a consideration…he does have a couple of veteran players and a top 5 recruit.

    (4)..Leitao…good D and a great PG will win a few games. He just hasn’t and won’t win enough to be ahead of the top 4.

    (5)… Haith…Had he beat us and went on and finished 2nd he would be in Herb’s spot.

    The way I see it…16-0 is a perfect season…how does a coach not deserve COY with a perfect season?….I don’t care who is on his team and how poor they looked winning. If a COY goes to the coach who did the best job, then it’s sillt to argue against a perfect season…especially in the ACC.

    WF is probably missing Dave Odum right now.

  11. PACDADDY 02/11/2006 at 12:16 PM #

    I don’t know what happened there^

  12. RickJ 02/11/2006 at 12:21 PM #

    Below was the league’s ACC Basketball Operation preseason poll with votes included:

    1. Duke (87) 1,044
    2. Boston College 918
    3. Wake Forest 791
    4. NC State 744
    5. Maryland 707
    6. North Carolina 573
    7. Miami 540
    8. Virginia Tech 451
    9. Georgia Tech 380
    10. Clemson 230
    11. Florida State 216
    12. Virginia 192

    Pacdaddy makes a good point about Duke but historically, this award does seem to go to the coach that team’s surprises the most.

    VaWolf82 – I’m pretty sure this voting takes place before the ACC Tourney. It definitely was in the past. I remember Cremins wanting to give his award to V after the 83 ACC Tourney.

  13. Jeff 02/11/2006 at 12:30 PM #

    Virginia was picked last in the ACC. They are battling for an NCAA Tournament birth. Right now, hands down Leitao

  14. Jeff 02/11/2006 at 12:47 PM #

    On ACC Basketball Today — Dan Bonner proposed Leitao and Coach K

  15. JeremyHyatt 02/11/2006 at 2:16 PM #

    Jeff – What is the URL to “ACC Basketball Today”; I’ve seen it referred to a couple times and don’t think i found the right site. Cheers.

  16. PACDADDY 02/11/2006 at 5:07 PM #

    I guess if the word “current” means “if season ended today”, then Leitao should be considered a solid candidate. I thought when the question was asked, projecting the finish was required to make a real assessment.

    Leitao has done a fine job, but 5-5 in the ACC with 4-5 loses on the horizon isn’t worthy of COY. Now….if he finishes 8-8…he deserves it a strong consideration. I don’t see it happening.The ACC isn’t as strong this season, so winning a few suprise games isn’t what I consider a landmark achievement.

    How many coaches have gone 16-0 and not won the COY? I have no idea, just posing a question. A coach shouldn’t be penalized for having a perfect season. How many coaches have had a perfect ACC record? rare…far less than the number of coaches picked last in the ACC and win 5-7 games in the ACC…just a guess.

    Wait a minute…I just realized I’m arguing for coach K…nevermind.

    Give it to Herb! 🙂

  17. VaWolf82 02/11/2006 at 6:43 PM #

    How many coaches have had a perfect ACC record?

    UNC – 1957*
    Duke – 1963*
    SC – 1970
    Sloan and NC State – 1973*, 1974*
    Dean and UNC – 1984, 1987
    K and Duke – 1999*

    * Also won ACC Tournament

    I have to agree with PD on this one. An undefeated regular season has to be good enough to earn the COY.

  18. VaWolf82 02/11/2006 at 6:44 PM #

    Where’s that EDIT button!!!!!

    The years with “stars” also won the ACCT.

  19. VaWolf82 02/11/2006 at 6:45 PM #

    That was supposed to include State and Sloan in ’73 and ’74.

    Looks like the “stars” turned “1974” into italics.

  20. RickJ 02/11/2006 at 7:44 PM #

    Interesting that Dean lost in the ACCT both years he had a perfect regular season. Also that 2 of the 3 perfect regular seasons that didn’t win the tourney lost to NC State in the finals.

  21. PACDADDY 02/11/2006 at 11:44 PM #

    ^^^good stuff…I assume all of those coaches won COY? Thanks for looking that up VA.

    If UVA keeps winning, we may have to have a co-COY.

  22. Sammy Kent 02/12/2006 at 8:30 AM #

    At this point Leiato, but if State runs the table to finish 14-2 I’ll go with Herb. The COY award is first and foremost given to the coach whose team OVERachieves…which is why Herb won in 2004. If no one is an obvious choice for overachievement, then the voters will vote for the coaches based on achievement. UVa has done giant leaps better than anyone supposed they would. Leiato has to be the frontrunner ATPIT.

  23. Sammy Kent 02/12/2006 at 8:40 AM #

    In 1970 South Carolina went undefeated. NC State’s Norm Sloan won COY.
    In 1984 UNC-CH went undefeated. Dook’s Mike Krzyzewski won COY.
    In 1987 UNC-CH went undefeated. Clemson’s Cliff Ellis won COY.

    In every other season (’57 McGuire-UNC-CH, ’63 Bubas-Dook, ’73 and ’74 Sloan-NC State, and ’99 Krzyzewski-Dook) the coach of the undefeated team won COY.

  24. Jeff 02/12/2006 at 10:39 AM #

    Jeremy,

    ACC Basketball Today is a television show that comes on Fox Sports South every Saturday morning. About the same time as ESPN’s College Basketball Gameday. Tivo is a wonderful thing.

  25. PACDADDY 02/12/2006 at 2:18 PM #

    Thanks for that info Sammy…with UVA winning and in light of the fact that the crazy media can find it within themselves to suggest a perfect season isn’t worthy of a COY, Leitao gets the nod as of right now. Herb and K tied for second…Roy and Haith tied for third.

    I just don’t see us going 14-2 the way we’re committing stupid/unforced TO’s.

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