This Just In – Wake Reeks

An ACC team just had its first real test, and the Demon Deacons failed badly. Even Dick Vitale couldn’t make their train wreck offense sound good. When you can basically leave 3 of the 5 men on the court unguarded, even a notoriously undisciplined team like Florida can defend you.

Of course, it’s VERY early, but I could see this team missing the Big Dance.

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17 Responses to This Just In – Wake Reeks

  1. Jeff 11/17/2005 at 11:32 PM #

    It looks like it is shaping up to be a very bad league this year.

  2. Class of '74 11/18/2005 at 7:50 AM #

    College B-Ball is all about guards and W-f really needs a point guard in the worst way!

  3. Rick Jernigan 11/18/2005 at 8:12 AM #

    Did everyone realize that the Wake seniors scored 92% of their points last night? Class of ’74 is dead on. This Wake team is a classic example of why guard play is so critical in college bball. Gray is a terrific two guard that is struggling at the point. If he gets better at the point or they come up with another option and he moves back to the two, they could still be very good. If not, or they get an injury to any of their guards it could be a very long season. If this happens, does Wellman get proactive again or does Prosser look for a new start because next year looks like a total rebuilding effort?

  4. Trout 11/18/2005 at 8:23 AM #

    Wins or losses in November really dont mean much. UNC lost to Santa Clara last year in November. Didnt seem to hurt them that much.

  5. Mr. O 11/18/2005 at 9:07 AM #

    Prosser came to Wake at a perfect time. He had a veteran team stocked with solid recruiting classes from Odom and Herb Sendek was essentially dead in the water in terms of recruiting. Prosser got life-long NC State fan Justin Gray and Eric Williams despite our staff thinking to the very last minute that they had E. Williams in the bag. Then he got hometown player Chris Paul in the next class.

    In some way I think we has State fans over-reacted with the praise for Prosser. We are better positioned going forward than Wake Forest at this point. I don’t know what Prosser is going to do when he loses Justin Gray and Eric Williams.

  6. Mr. O 11/18/2005 at 9:09 AM #

    Is there a way to edit posts?

  7. B.Stone 11/18/2005 at 9:09 AM #

    Trout makes a good point, but maybe there’s another point to be made in regards to UNC’s loss to Santa Clara. Keep in mind that the Santa Clara game last year was also the game Felton was serving a suspension due to that whole Chavis League ordeal. This serves as a fine example of how crucial a capable point guard is to a team. UNC obviously got Felton back and the rest is history. As of right now it doesn’t look like anyone will fill that role for Wake this season, and it could continue to cost them.

  8. Mr. O 11/18/2005 at 9:14 AM #

    How do people feel about our point guard situation? Or should we call it the primary transporter of the basketball?

    Jules handled it a lot for us. However, I think we are going to be fine with Atsur, Bethel and Grant. Grant was one of the best ball handlers on the team last year. We still don’t have the drive and dish type of PG, but we have guys who can get us set in the offense which is reallly important.

  9. Rick 11/18/2005 at 9:45 AM #

    For the offense we run the guards we have are fine.
    The problems are
    1) When we do not have time to run the offense, where do our points come from?
    2) When our threes are not falling, who can take over?

  10. newswolf 11/18/2005 at 9:48 AM #

    Eric Williams would have been a terrible player in herb sendek’s “system”. I sate beside EW’s mom at the acc tourney 2 years ago in greensboro. she said he would have gone to state if sendek wouldn’t have been on the hot seat. I didn’t hear her mention anything about “message boards” or “blogs”

  11. Mr. O 11/18/2005 at 10:07 AM #

    And Herb was rightfully so on the hot seat that year.

    Again, Wellman timed the removal of Odom perfectly. However, Prosser has struggled a bit in recruiting. He has a pretty good class for next year though.

  12. Class of '74 11/18/2005 at 10:11 AM #

    There is major talk in Cincinnati about Prosser going to UC after this season.
    Could be something there?

  13. Jeff 11/18/2005 at 3:19 PM #

    I am convinced that Prosser is gone to UC this year. Lots of smoke there. It will be the perfect time to jump as well.

    I think the praise State people laid on Prosser was not based solely on his early success at Wake…but also because he already had a history of success at Xavier. Add to that the fact that he was beating the pants off us in recruiting – Williams & Paul – and the praise was justified.

    In his time at Wake, Prosser has a winning record vs State, a better NCAA Tournament record than State, significantly more national rankings and prominence than State, and better ACC finishes in 3 of 4 years than State.

    Why would he NOT deserve to be credited?

  14. Mr. O 11/18/2005 at 4:30 PM #

    Better NCAA tournament record? We tied them 1 year for 3rd place in the ACC and we finished ahead of them once.

    He had Odom’s players. He benefitted from Herb’s recruiting being crippled because he was endangered of being fired. Also, he had a lot of playing time to offer because his first two teams had a ton of upper classman. However, without a weakened NC State Prosser has not beaten the pants off us in recruiting. Herb has out-recruited Prosser for 2 of the last 3 years in fact.

    Prosser had very positive circumstances when he came to Wake. But a lot of things have changed. Based on the sophmore and freshman classes, I think most experts would project us to have more success than Wake Forest for the next several years.

  15. Jeff 11/18/2005 at 6:02 PM #

    “We tied them 1 year for 3rd place in the ACC and we finished ahead of them once.”

    ..and they won the ACC Regular season title one year. I don’t care whose players he did it with. Shit, our own coach hasn’t even done that with his own players in a decade and Prosser did it in his first year or two. What isn’t good about that?

  16. Rick 11/21/2005 at 10:06 AM #

    “He benefitted from Herb’s recruiting being crippled because he was endangered of being fired.”
    Why should something that is Herb’s own fault be used as an excuse as to why he is not doing well now?
    Herb was on the hotseat because he was nor performing up to snuff. If he lost recruits becuase of it, it is his own fault.

  17. Mr. O 11/21/2005 at 1:05 PM #

    “Why should something that is Herb’s own fault be used as an excuse as to why he is not doing well now?”

    Who used it as an excuse for Herb? I certainly didn’t. I just explained that it helped Prosser get 3 guys that were absolutely essential to his success the last 3 years.

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