10 Years Ago Today – Herb Sendek Hired

Ten years ago today, the news broke that after an exhaustive search, Todd Turner and NC State was hiring Herb Sendek of Miami of Ohio to lead the Wolfpack’s basketball program. Turner didn’t last much longer.

Too many people act like “nobody ever warmed up to Sendek”. Ken Tysiac of the Charlotte Observer made almost that exact comment about a week ago and used the word “never” accepted Sendek. This shows the young man’s age, inexperience, and ignorance about the topic. EVERYONE “accepted” Sendek at the beginning; just as everyone will accept and stand behind the new coach.

Of course four years of NIT performances capped by a horrible fifth season changed the equation for 95% of the free thinkers…but, somehow the media and some Wolfpackers managed to extract these five years from their memory and act as if they never happened. Yesterday we closed the statistical door on those ‘great’ last five years. Timing was ironic.

The following is from the News & Observer’s archive from April 17, 1996.

NCSU selects Miami of Ohio coach to replace Robinson
A. J. Carr
The News & Observer

RALEIGH – Herb Sendek, a Rick Pitino protege considered one of the nation’s best young recruiters, has been named N.C. State University’s new basketball coach.

Sendek, 33, head coach at Miami (Ohio) University the past three seasons, was in Raleigh on Tuesday to complete the deal with Wolfpack officials. A news conference to announce his hiring is planned for 11 a.m. today at Reynolds Coliseum, the proud home of a State program that has experienced both the heights and depths of big-time college basketball in the past half-century.

The decision ends a 25-day job search that began when Les Robinson resigned March 22 amid an emotional and public debate about his future with the Wolfpack. Robinson, who replaced the late Jim Valvano as coach in 1990, posted five consecutive losing seasons in six years. After stepping down in March, he chose to stay with his alma mater as an assistant athletics director.

The official terms of Sendek’s contract were not available Tuesday. But sources close to the Wolfpack program said he had agreed to a five-year contract with an annual base salary of about $100,000. It was unclear what kind of supplemental package he was offered. Most ACC head coaches have total annual incomes of at least $500,000, the majority of which comes from shoe company endorsements and incentives from school booster clubs.

Sendek, who becomes the youngest coach in the ACC, was registered at a Raleigh hotel Tuesday but could not be reached for comment. A former assistant to Pitino at Providence College and the University of Kentucky, he produced a 63-26 record at Miami, which plays in the Mid-American Conference. He is scheduled to meet with Wolfpack players at 7:30 a.m.

Sendek, a native of Pittsburgh and the son of a coach, comes to State with a strong endorsement from Miami athletics director Eric Hyman, who described him as having a style and demeanor similar to a “young Dick Sheridan,” the former Wolfpack football coach.

“Herb’s a very bright, cerebral person,” said Hyman, himself a former NCSU assistant athletics director. “N.C. State is very lucky to get a man of his caliber. He’s not a comic. He’s not an entertainer. But if you want a basketball coach, you’ve got one. He’s a terrific basketball coach.”

Hyman said State fans can expect an intense coach who demands a lot from his players.

“He’s a fierce competitor,” he said. “He’s a motivator, extremely intense, really demanding. The players will play hard for him. Kids really respond to him and go all out.”

State officials were reluctant to discuss the hiring before today’s announcement, continuing the pattern of secrecy they’ve maintained throughout the search. In the past, NCSU officials have said they hoped to land a coach who not only could win and sustain the program’s recent academic successes, but also could bring together feuding factions of State fans disappointed over recent losses.

State, which won national championships in 1974 and 1983, finished this season 15-16 overall and 3-13 in the ACC, worst in the conference. The ensuing argument over Robinson’s status underscored a feeling of frustration that marked one of the most turbulent periods in Wolfpack basketball history.

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Many challenges ahead:

Sendek, whose Redskins finished 21-8 this year after a loss to Fresno State in the first round of the NIT, faces plenty of challenges in attempting to restore State’s winning tradition. And even though most players return from last year’s team, State will probably be picked to finish in the ACC’s second division.

But those who are familiar with Sendek expect him to respond aggressively.

“I know Herb was outstanding as the chief recruiter at Kentucky,” said Bob Gibbons, basketball recruiting analyst for All-Star Sports. “In that capacity he literally went coast to coast attracting the top prospects in the country, both in high school and junior college.”

Hyman called Sendek a “magnificent recruiter” who helped upgrade the quality of athletes at Miami. One of his recent coups was signing Damon Frierson, a “Mr. Basketball” in Indiana who just finished his freshman season with the Redskins.

Charlie Coles, an assistant at Miami the past two years, said Sendek is organized and meticulous. He said his former boss wears a coat and tie at games and tends to stay calm on the sidelines.

“He’s a quiet guy,” Coles said. “But he’s just very, very sincere. He’ll laugh and joke. He’s got a sense of humor. On the same side, he’s a very, very serious guy. He knows how to balance it.

“He’s very, very energetic around players at practice and in timeouts. He’s got energy and he’s got control.”

Sendek is also known as a good game coach who makes effective adjustments and tailors style of play to his personnel.

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‘Herb’s like Pitino’:

“Herb’s like Pitino in that he does a good job of taking advantage of opponents’ weaknesses,” Coles said.

Miami led the Mid-American Conference in scoring defense the last two seasons and paced the league in three-point shooting last year.

Married and the father of a 2-year old daughter, Kristin, Sendek is said to be a family man who reads widely. He started his basketball career as a player at Pittsburgh’s Penn Hills High and later at Carnegie Mellon University, where he posted a 3.95 grade-point average.

“If you’ve ever seen one of Herb’s teams play, you’ve seen the way he played,” said Bill Blick, who coached Sendek at Penn Hills. “He was a very intense player. Whenever there was a loose ball, he was the first to get it.”

Blick also coached former North Carolina standout George Karl, now the coach of the NBA’s Seattle SuperSonics.

“There were a lot of similarities between George and Herb, primarily their toughness,” Blick said. “They both would keep their heads up in the roughest situations and try to find a way to win. George was much more of a scorer than Herb, who was more like a playmaker. But both of them were tough mentally.”

Blick said he wasn’t surprised to see Sendek climb the ranks of coaching. He also expects him to make his mark in recruiting, despite competition from nearby UNC and Duke.

“He is so intelligent that I am sure he would formulate a plan and keep to it,” Blick said.

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24 Responses to 10 Years Ago Today – Herb Sendek Hired

  1. Elephants at Indy 04/17/2006 at 8:15 AM #

    Is anyone else tired of reading about the Arizona State University basketball coach?

    SFN – Hopefully nobody else is tired of reading about NC State’s history. Grow up. We are on the 10 year anniversary of the hire. You don’t think that is relevant? You don’t think that it is particularly relevant in light of the fact that we are currently going through another coaching search? If your “tired” of reading about things here…then go somewhere else.

  2. stejen 04/17/2006 at 8:19 AM #

    Again, I say give Herb his due. He took over a program that pretty much nobody else wanted and turned it into a winner. I agree it was time for him to leave but the basketball program is better for him being here so we owe him that much. Now we can go after a top notch coach (those that 10 years ago would not have even considered coming here) and pay them up to 2 million a year. 10 years ago I don’t think we could have hired a top notch coach even if we did pay them 2 mil a year.

  3. packattack95 04/17/2006 at 8:38 AM #

    It is amazing we are on day 16 of the coaching search, and it took us 25 days 10 years ago to decide on Coach Sendek.

  4. Fletch 04/17/2006 at 8:55 AM #

    Thanks for that. Herb looked as good then as Gillispie or Haith or mid tier guys look today. Three years at Miami of Ohio, great young recruiter, ect… The whole fan base united around him. I remember. I was there. Especially after his great ACC tourney run and Gainey’s amazing play. BTW, SFN, I would love some insight into Lon Kruger from this blog.

  5. beowolf 04/17/2006 at 9:15 AM #

    Fletch, I maintain — as one who HOPED it would be Sendek 10 years ago — that the main reason we were so thrilled about Sendek being hired was that he carried with him the promise of knowing “The Kentucky System.”

    Sendek’s being a protege of Rick Pitino, who had very recently won a National Championship at that time, was a huge plus factor for him. We expected and were basically told to expect him to implement the Kentucky System — tight, pressing defense and fast-paced offense. Sendek uploaded the defense almost immediately, and we waited eagerly for him to get the “horses to run the Kentucky Offense.” At the time, our bench was poor and shallow, and the Kentucky System needed a deep, talented bench. So we waited out the ball-control offense of Herb’s earlier years — then when we finally had the depth and talent, he sprung on us the Offense Formerly Known As Princeton’s.

  6. GoldenChain 04/17/2006 at 9:29 AM #

    Herb took a team that hadn’t done squat for 4 seasons and took them to an NIT the very first year (and the ACC Finals if I remember correctly). A major achievement to me. And as I said in the other thread, I really didn’t have a problem with his recruiting, he inked some good top 100 players, problem was he couldn’t keep ’em in the program or develop their talents.
    In 10 seasons Herb had very few players go to the NBA and with all the top 100 recruits he had I would have thought someone would have broken through.
    He did a decent job of pull us out of the abyss and I think we were more than fair with him given the competitive nature of our conference and the lack of patience any other program would have had.

  7. longtimewolf 04/17/2006 at 9:41 AM #

    N.C. State is very lucky to get a man of his caliber. He’s not a comic. He’s not an entertainer. But if you want a basketball coach, you’ve got one. He’s a terrific basketball coach.

    enough said.

  8. Fletch 04/17/2006 at 9:44 AM #

    Beo, you are right. I remember saying to my friend who buys season bball tickets with me to wait for 2-3 years until he gets his guys to run and press. I remember the frustration about how that never seemed to materialize. Its good to remember the history in the correct frame of reference. Herb came with excitement and promise of the Kentucky system, and we never saw it.

  9. CarnifeX 04/17/2006 at 9:46 AM #

    Herb’s best feature was definitely his recruiting. Who are his few that made it to the NBA?
    I know Hodge, Powell and Grundy (10-day contract, ha). Are there others that went?

  10. beowolf 04/17/2006 at 10:19 AM #

    *who described him as having a style and demeanor similar to a “young Dick Sheridan’’*

    See? SEE? Have I not made that EXACT comparison in going after the Gold/doyel/Bilas/&c. contingent of sportswriters acting as if our problem with Sendek was his PERSONALITY?

    To quote myself:

    *If the experts were willing to investigate the matter further (read: at all), they might ask if there is any coach with a subdued personality that Wolfpack fans liked. It wouldn’t take long to discover Dick Sheridan. The gentleman’s coach. Taciturn, meek, so nice he couldn’t even dump 70 points on Mack Brown when he had the chance and instead called a second half full of dive plays � the man is beloved among Wolfpack fans. Yet even though they coached a few years together, he was the antithesis to Valvano.

    So much for the myth [that State fans demand a coach with a dynamic personality like Valvano and Amato]. So what else could it be? … Here’s a novel idea: wins.*

  11. wolfbuff 04/17/2006 at 11:53 AM #

    It is not true that Wolfpack Nation “never” accepted Herb. After his first year getting us back into post-season play and making it to the ACC championship game, we all thought he was the 2nd coming of Case himself. He turned the program into a constitent participant in the NCAA tournament, but the last 5 years were like living the movie “Groundhog Day”. It was time for him to go, as the success we all envisioned after that first year never materialized. It was not about the personality, but that became an annoyance when the championships and post-season success didn’t come.

  12. GAWolf 04/17/2006 at 12:52 PM #

    “He is so intelligent that I am sure he would formulate a plan and keep to it,’’ Blick said.

    This quote to close that artical was soothsayer-like foreshadowing. “Formulate a plan and keep to it.” Knowing what we know now, that’s more than a mouthfull.

  13. Wolfpack_34 04/17/2006 at 2:20 PM #

    “”He’s a fierce competitor,’’ he said. “He’s a motivator, extremely intense, really demanding.””
    hmmmmm

  14. Dan 04/17/2006 at 3:39 PM #

    People want to split Herb’s tenure into two eras which is correct. But the error people make is they dont properly identify the two eras.

    The two eras are not pre Larry Hunter and post Larry Hunter when Herb switched the style of offense. Teams all over the country run different systems. Its not the system that wins games. Its the players and the in-game coaching. By “in-game” coaching I mean the adjustments and the motivation to get the players to succeed.

    The first era of Sendek at NC State was littered with inconsistant recruiting classes. Damien Wilkins. Adam Harrington. Scooter Sherill. Decent classes. Well ranked. But it was like we were always taking “best available 2 guard” and not getting the players we really needed. I know there were a few 3′ and 4’s that were respected recruits as well, but the trend was the same.

    Enter the ’02 recruiting failure and missing on John Gilchrist and Shav Randolph. The next year Herb whiffs on Mustafa Shakur and gets nothing. We get a Frodo look a like in Mike Odonnel. We did catch a break with Engin Atsure but that basically existed outside the normal recruiting game. The ’03 class represented the second straight year Herb failed to get a PG to run a system he modeled after NBA teams led by Bibby and Kidd. It was miss after miss after miss. Add to that the departure of Josh Powell the same year. Even after the two tournaments, at that point I was ready to fire Herb. That was the time. But people saw some success on the court and were blinded by the failure’s off the court. We were so giddy about consecutive NCAA’s that didnt notice him getting his ass handed to him on the recruiting trail and losing guys like Josh Powell. A major basketball power would have seen, and “a smart basketball guy” like Lee Fowler, should have seen, the problem with losing a first round NCAA game to Cal and having two straight years of recruiting failure.

    This is where the change occured. This is where Sendek changed.

    Herb began to target kids in their sophmore and freshman years. He also spent less time going after the Shakur’s and more time going after the maybe the 4th or 5th best players at each position. This switch paid off much better than the offense switch. In ’04 we land Ced Simmons, Gavin Grant, and Andrew Brackman. (In truth, this is more of a hybrid class given how these players were landed.) The ’05 class was a great example with the addition of Brandon Costner, who I expect to become a joy to watch. On a side note, while Hodge saved Sendek’s job, Costner’s injury might have lost it for him. Along with Ben McCauley and Courtney Fells. Fells and Ced aside, you can really see here the ties Sendek was making to the Tri-State area of NY, NJ, and PA. The final culmination of this trend was seen this year with Larry Davis, Dennis Horner, and Dan Werner. Its almost a perfect representation of the Sendek’s new recruiting strategy but with an important miss regarding NYC’s PG Edgar Sosa who opted for Louisville. Its ironic that the only PG Herb was ever really to land will never play for Herb at NC State. The new strategy finally brought him Chris Wright.

    This last era was really only going on year three. Not year five. I was a Sendek supporter, but I admit that it was a hard argument to make. My support for him was based more on curiosity on what he could do with the guys he was finally landing. As this site has adequately proved, you cannot defend Sendek on his record. Some of us believed it was possible, not assured, the best basketball was coming next year. Its a moot point now and pointless to argue. Just a belief. What was still needed to be seen was proper game management, which might have improved with a decent point guard….or admittedly..maybe not. I had a desire to see what would happen after investing 10 years into, quite frankly, developing Herb Sendek. (Arizona State owed us for crafting a coach for them) However, if Herb Sendek himself wasnt willing to see his investment through, maybe it wasnt worth waiting for. We will never know.

    I would like to know if he ever gave NC State a chance to match the offer though. Quite frankly, Im not sure what the right response was if he did. 1.4 million over several years to see if your investment pays off. Sounds like blackmail to me. It would be nice if Lee Fowler was honest with the fans about his thoughts about the program and the decision to not match or better the offer. It would be a nice insight into his so called basketball genius.

    I will make one more observation. In ’03 we had two bad classes in a row, but a taste of success made us stick with our guy. See the football team now. The last two classes have been dreadful. The difference being that football recruiting is less an exact science. But dont anyone think that we wont pay for those two bad years. We will. Guaranteed. Its going to get worse before it gets better. ’07 is looking dramatically better already though. Why? Chuck has changed his strategy. No longer waiting for December to lay on the gas, Chuck an Co. are after them early and hard. Wont it be funny though if a couple more losing seasons get Chuck fired before the benefits from a recruiting strategy can be realized? One thing is for sure. I dont want to hear anyone who is backing him now ask for his head in two years because of a losing season. Everyone is blinded by a bowl win over USF. Im equally curious enough to see what Trestman can do. But if anyone thinks that we are going to be a great team the next two years, you are on shaky ground. That should be evident now. Anyone who wants his head over the next two years, but doesnt now is just plain shortsighted.

  15. VaWolf82 04/17/2006 at 5:04 PM #

    Some of us believed it was possible, not assured, the best basketball was coming next year.

    I don’t think that you would need very many fingers to count “us”. Losing three (four?) starters from a 10 seed along with a depleted back court is not a sign of impending greatness.

  16. VaWolf82 04/17/2006 at 5:05 PM #

    Everyone is blinded by a bowl win over USF

    Again you over reach. I don’t think that many people are impressed with a 3-5 conference record and a bowl win over USF.

  17. Dan 04/17/2006 at 5:30 PM #

    By “us”, I can honestly say that of the pool of people I know, more of this opinion than not. I work in an office with upwards of 300 NC State engineering grads. The majority sentiment was obvious. But to rehash that sentiment, it wasnt a defense of the record. SFN has done a good job showing that cant be the defense. It was of a desire to see what would come in the next couple years of the recruiting strategy change. A sense of hope with some and something closer to positive curiosity for others. It seemed to be paying off. I also plainly added that 1.4 million per for several years was a steep price to pay to see if your own investment of 10 years could pay off. Its like asking you to invest in the r&d for ten years, then one two years before you know the full potential, someone asks you to buy it for the next 10 years. I’m not sure what I would have done.

    Thats not to say it cant be argued otherwise. I stated as much. Some people made a rational argument that no matter the players, he wasnt going to get it done. What you need to accept is rational people can disagree sometimes.

    First off. Ced may not be leaving. He wasnt leaving before Ced left when many were looking forward to better ball. Now, that leaves Cam, Bethel, and Ilian.

    Ilian filled a need and was a nice suprise, but replacing him with Brandon Costner is a step up. Not down. In many ways, Ilian held us back more than he ever helped. When he was on the floor we got killed on the boards. Tony Bethel was nothing more than a spot up shooter. Thats one thing we dont lack. And Gavin Grant proved that he can fill Cam’s role at the end of the year. Add to that Ced improving and it was shaping up to be a better year. . Again, everything is argueable and nothing is certain.

    As far as “everyone” in the football parallel, obvioulsy that is an exaggeration. I admit. But it certainly is a majority. Enough so it that there would be an uproar if he was fired. At least most are partially blinded to the state the football team is actually in after playing in a bowl game. The ’07 recruiting class is make or break for Chuck Amato. Not necessarily to be high ranked (football rankings are relatively unreliable), but he needs quite a bit more hits than misses. The cupboard is dwindling and there is little momentum right now with the football program outside of the world of construction.

  18. beowolf 04/17/2006 at 7:57 PM #

    I clicked on this and went straight to the last post and was going to work backwards, which is what I usually do on these multi-response posts.

    I’m really keen to find out what the HELL the football coach has to do with this.

  19. Jeff 04/17/2006 at 8:09 PM #

    OMG!!! ^That is hilarious!! I was doing the exact same thing. Then I saw the following,

    “This last era was really only going on year three. Not year five”

    and then I decided that it isn’t worth even reading. Same old same old.

    Whatever.

  20. beowolf 04/17/2006 at 8:21 PM #

    I swear, Jeff, it’s like the old joke about the MSM and their script. God announces that the world will be ending in two days, and the NY Times announces “WORLD TO END TOMORROW: Women, Minorities Hardest Hit”

    Here, it’s: WOLFPACK BLOG DISCUSSES BASKETBALL HISTORY: Chuck Amato hardest hit

  21. spudweb 04/17/2006 at 8:36 PM #

    As far as the Separate Herb eras, I must disagree. There were only 2. Split evenly 5 years apiece. Recruiting strategies may be broken into more than these, but for myself and I assume a majority of our fans, pateince through the first 4 years was repaid with the stinker in 2000, when with a big athletic frontcourt (Inge, Kelly, et al.) and a competitive backcourt, Herb couldn’t get it done. Many have rightly stated we should have cut the strings then, and if we had we wouldn’t be vulnerable to the national perception we have received (which I think has more effect on recruiting than hiring a coach).

    With respect to the second era, obviously it was much better, but at a cost of the root canal-esque offense we had to endure, along with multiple blowouts to our enemies. Improvement or no, Herb was just a new version of Bill Foster, real nice guy who would keep us in the 25-35th best team category with no real opportunity to climb. Not acceptable.

  22. beowolf 04/17/2006 at 9:30 PM #

    Speaking of eras, let’s look at the era called the “Last 6.”

    Sendek’s last six games he went 1-5 — with losses coming to the worst team in the ACC (twice), a top-10 team, and two ranked teams. During that time his teams scored an average 11 points less than their opponents.

    The football coach’s last six games, he went 5-1 — with one loss to a bowl team, victories over two non-bowl teams (MTS and UMd), two bowl teams (So. Miss and USF), and one top-10 team (FSU). During that time his teams scored an average 5 points more than their opponents.

    For what it’s worth, in each “Last Six” era the coach faced one top-10 foe, three significant foes (by virtue of postseason qualification), and two teams that were ostensibly outmatched.

    WHEEE! Making up eras is fun!

  23. Dan 04/18/2006 at 12:21 AM #

    The type of offense doesnt matter guys. That is why breaking the era’s at Hunter is wrong. The compiled history of college basketball tells you that all types of systems win games as long as the players are there. History is riddled with substandard coaches who had great seasons due to outstanding talent. Frankly, it would not of mattered if Sendek switched systems or not. Julius Hodge was going to win us some games.

    A fundamental change occured in recruiting strategy after the Shakur miss. Without that change, the streak of NCAA games would have ended with Hodge. Spread offense or no.

    You guys need to realize that I’m not using this as a manner to defend Herb’s record. Its just what happened. I do us it as a manner to suggest his recruiting was going to be more steady and a little more well thought out (which is only an indictment on the first 7 years).

    And while I was for keeping Herb, I would have been pissed if Herb put me in the position to pay 50% more only to have a chance to see if 10 years worth of investment and patience was going to pay off.

    But simply seeing the line of when we got to the NCAA’s isnt an indicator of overall program change. It was still the same old deal. One great class. Two crap ones. No one can sustain success that way. No one.

  24. redfred2 04/26/2006 at 1:16 PM #

    ^Dan

    Just reading back over old posts that I have missed. You are stubborn guy who doesn’t give up. I admire that. Although you and I have butted heads in the past, I did see the recruiting. It was happening, even though I couldn’t understand how. I give Herb the credit. He recruited realistically and didn’t waste time on long shots, and he developed a solid base to work with. That is a plus for the next coach and hopefully that trend will continue.

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