02/18/2014 at 7:25 AM #414751.21 JigawattsKeymaster
Time: 7:00 pm TV: ESPNU Announcers: Tom Hart, Cory Alexander Clemson…All Defense + Zero Offense + 2nd slowest team in the country = ZZzzzzzzz. Basical
[See the full post at: NC STATE at CLEMSON Preview]02/18/2014 at 7:35 AM #41476
Can’t say enough how much I love the Swoffy Cabal photo in the FT advantage column. A picture says a thousand words, indeed.02/18/2014 at 8:33 AM #41479bill.onthebeachParticipant
… another good writeup.. Jiggs….
“If this team was pissed off after Saturday night (and still is) then I say the Pack wins…..
If the Pack sat in their lockers and cried about the game then the season is over.”
^THIS sums up all it…
If there’s one thing I’m sure of….
is that there has been more ‘CRYING’ on SFN than in our kids locker-room.
I’m betting on PISSED OFF … and the PACK wins by double digits…#NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!02/18/2014 at 8:34 AM #41480TexpackParticipant
Six games left. Really need to go 5-1 to make the Big Dance. The games against Klempson, UNCCH, and Pitt should decide our fate. We need to go 2-1 in those to have a shot. We will see how good Gott’s “Dr. Phil” impersonation is tonight.02/18/2014 at 8:48 AM #41481WufpackerParticipant
Tigger meat for dinner.02/18/2014 at 8:51 AM #41482WulfpackParticipant
Another swing game. Can’t lose this one and expect to have much of a chance for the tourney. As good as Clemson is defensively, I am very curious to see how they (try to) handle Warren. Should be a close one.02/18/2014 at 8:53 AM #41483PackFamilyParticipant
I’ll go ahead and get it out now so i don’t have to type at the end of the game:
That call on KW was debatable, but it cost us the game. Had we made free throws, not turned it over inside the last minute, and closed out the game, we would have on.
Seriously, don’t even let it be close inside the final 4 minutes. Go Pack!02/18/2014 at 8:54 AM #41484tangogr33nParticipant
This preview isn’t making me feel any better. Taking my boys back tonight for their second State-Clemson bball game at Littlejohn. Last year’s game was a nail biter but Scott Wood sealed the deal and we had a great time.
Go Pack!02/18/2014 at 9:01 AM #41486
Perhaps Black Scott Wood will add to his growing legend tonight.
As you know, I tend towards the fatalistic end of the spectrum. And as such, I see an uninspiring loss. The Cabal will have beaten us at least twice Saturday night. Maybe more.02/18/2014 at 9:05 AM #41488PapaWolfParticipant
Swing game is right. We lose this one and any chance of making the NCAAT becomes very remote.
I think we have to win BC, VT, CU and UM to even be on the bubble. And probably need at least one upset at PITT or UNC plus some success in the ACCT to be in the Selection Sunday conversation.
The fact that they beat Duke scares me to death. Gonna be a tough one.02/18/2014 at 9:08 AM #41489WufpackerParticipant
Perhaps Black Scott Wood will add to his growing legend tonight.
Hopefully, in a good way.02/18/2014 at 9:38 AM #41495FergusWolfParticipant
I’m just glad we have another game to focus on, so we can (at least temporarily forget about how not only the refs and the ACC, but likely the NCAA, possibly the “establishment”, and maybe even the KGB has singled out NC State for long term pain. Probably has to do with that ’83 national championship).
Anyway, the think that GOTT is a good enough coach to reinforce the positives from Saturdays game, fix some of the negatives, and use the end of the game as an example of why we need to be up by 10 with 1 minute to go.
Another point of good news is that there is no Raleigh native on the Tiger’s team who will take this opportunity to have a career night.
So, now all we have to watch out for is the player with latent 3 point skills who is bound to have a 24 point night.02/18/2014 at 9:46 AM #41496VaWolf82Keymaster
Clemson lost a close one on Sat as well. We’ll see which team recovers tonight.02/18/2014 at 9:53 AM #41498Fastback68Participant
Whoever wins this game will momentarily be #1 in the #2 business by sitting in sole place at the sixth seed position. As predicted, UNX vaults to the fourth or fifth seed. Does Pitt move down with an easy remaining schedule? Pitt has to play FSU, State and Clemson so it should be interesting. With regards to the NIT, many posters have stated that the pack can only beat the crap teams so why is it so important to go play another three or four crap teams. NCAAT or bust. I think State can go 5-1 but I’ve been accused of being rosy red. TJ Warren is the type of player we have been missing since Hodge. Who is going to stop him besides a zebra. Play defense tonight. Go Pack!02/18/2014 at 9:56 AM #41499WulfpackParticipant
UVA toon Warren completely out of the game. That is what a good defensive team will do. We are a different team, and Clemson may not be as stout as UVA on that end. That is why I say it is going to be interesting to watch. And if it does happen, who steps up for us?02/18/2014 at 10:05 AM #41500Fastback68Participant
UVA made 17 of their first 20 shots. They took everyone out of the game. That must be some kind of record? 85% shooting on a minimum of 20 shots. Sure I have seen teams shoot 7/8 or 10/11 and 13/15 but 17 of 20 to start a game. Yes UVA is an excellent defensive team but I thought Syracuse would make a point to shut down TJ but they couldn’t. Here’s to Washington making another significant contribution.02/18/2014 at 10:46 AM #4150113OTParticipant
Right now, the ACC has 5 teams bound for the NCAAT. They will not get more than 6 teams in.
This game will probably determine who the 6th team COULD be. Barring an ACCT run, the loser of this one will at best be playing for a top 4 seed in the NIT.
State is the better team. But I’ve seen this scenario too many times before. I wish we still HAD a Scott Wood. Turner is NOT a Scott Wood, no matter how bad we want him to be.02/18/2014 at 10:59 AM #41502
I was very pleased that Cuse wasn’t able to shut Buckets down. Hopefully Clemson won’t either.
Clemson is a great defensive team, but they have so little offensive skill, it usually doesn’t much matter. This is why they aren’t UVA.
For reference purposes, VPI is essentially Clemson that doesn’t play much defense either. Meltdown imminent if those f-ckwits beat us.02/18/2014 at 12:09 PM #41506budfox88Participant
Make FTs and eliminate turnovers…can win!!!02/18/2014 at 3:21 PM #41513PapaWolfParticipant
“…we can temporarily forget about how not only the refs and the ACC, but likely the NCAA, possibly the “establishment”, and maybe even the KGB has singled out NC State for long term pain.”
Well said!! (but you forgot Al Queda)
Finally, someone understands besides me.02/18/2014 at 3:27 PM #41514Pack85EEParticipant
13OT I agree with you on the basic concept regarding 6 teams but I think it comes down to RPI and top 50 wins. 5-1 and we don’t flop in the Thursday game, were in. So if we lose to the kittys we better beat Pitt and those A$$heals. 4-2 and the two losses are to UNC and Pitt (worst case of the 4-2 outcome) we have to win Thur and Friday, and probably Sat to get a good RPI win. Go 9-9 in conference and we’ll just have to win the ACC Tournament. At least we think it’s possible after staying with Cuse.
So beat Clemson tonight and then pull for them to go on a winning spree to up their RPI. I don’t think it’s us vs them for the Tourney, it’s RPI, and theirs sucks worse, but they have that Duke win. Of course if both teams are at that last in, first out point, then it is sort of us vs them. Damn, I thought I knew where we stood.02/18/2014 at 4:04 PM #41516FergusWolfParticipant
Dang…knew I was going to miss someone. I also forget HWSNBN.02/18/2014 at 4:04 PM #4151713OTParticipant
I just don’t see a way that State can make the NCAAT if they lose the game tonight, except win the rest of their games plus 3 or 4 more in the ACCT.
The Central home loss won’t ever completely go away. The Missouri home loss was similar to the Pitt loss, and our one chance to redeem ourselves after the home blowout vs UVA and the Triangle road debacles was thrown away in Syracuse. The remaining schedule’s “quality wins” list offers just UNC, who has been the ACC’s “see saw” team so far this season.
It wasn’t just that the Wolfpack lost to the ACC teams that matter (the top 5), but it was HOW we lost to them.
I know I was pretty hard on Turner, but to me he is nowhere near the outside threat that Scott Wood was, plus Wood was nearly automatic at the line. If Turner isn’t hitting his 3-ball, he will keep on firing them up without regard to where he is or where everybody else is. I just don’t think he’s a team player. State badly needs a consistent outside shooter, and right now, he still hasn’t stepped forward.
It’s getting late. It’s time for him to step up, NOW.02/18/2014 at 4:32 PM #41518sow61Participant
I do think that the foul on Warren at the end of the Syracuse game should have been a ‘and one’ foul which would have most likely won the game for us. However, we did catch a break at the end of the Miami game when Washington clearly bumped Brown on the 3-point heave at the end which would have sent him to the line for 3 free throws and us up by 1, so I guess things even out. Would trade a win over Syracuse instead of Miami though at this point.02/18/2014 at 4:34 PM #41519vtpackfanParticipant
This is a really tough match up player wise. TJ will have to guard McDaniel and Buckets is well known for leaking out to lead the break (he’s not out first for his sprinting speed). I expect McDaniel to have a monster night on the offensive boards unless we put Freeman on him (have TJ guard Flowerdoppleganger dude).
On offensive our play against man to man is either fantastic (FSU & UNC first half) or freakishly bad (UVa & UNC first half). One thing that hurts is that we’ve been playing against Zones almost all the time for months. Seeing man to man is just too novel looking at times.
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