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My book has NC State at 33 to 1 to even win the ACC championship with exactly 8 teams in front of us with better odds. 16.5 to 1 we even win the Atlantic.
I was merely sharing my personal expectations which are probably a little more grounded in reality based on Vegas odds.
I think my prior reply is pretty clear. My expectations are in line with Vegas oddsmaker’s predictions. I don’t expect us to make the college football playoffs, win the ACC championship, or even win the Atlantic division. Vegas futures clearly imply we won’t even be in the conversation.
Wow!! Your opinion, which you are trying to pass off as reality, isn’t based on your opinion at all but is actually what the bookies’ clients think. Vegas odds change depending on how the betting goes.
Actually those of us who have opinions you sneer at as being hope, etc., are what you base your opinions on. If 100,000 Wolfpack fans called your book in Las Vegas and bet on the Pack to win the conference championship, the odds would drop considerably from the 33-1 odds you are basing your expectations on. If the betting was heavy enough those odds would drop dramatically.