Wednesday Misc: Some Basketball Links

Tuesday provided the first “on the court” look at the pieces of the ’13-’14 edition of Wolfpack Basketball as it was the first day for summer workouts.

NC State trying to solidify ‘program in transition’ (WRALSportsFan.com)

Tuesday marked the first day of on-court workouts as freshmen and transfers joined returnees Tyler Lewis, TJ Warren and Jordan Vandenburg on-campus.

Step one for Gottfried and the Wolfpack: find almost an entirely new starting five.

“There’s a ton of questions about our team,” Gottfried said. “It’s kind of a blank slate as far as having all these new guys, and we’re not really sure who can do what.”

It will be trial-by-fire for Gottfried’s self-described “program in transition” come November when W’s and L’s will be determined by how quickly his team grows up.

N.C. State basketball: Gottfried has hopes, not expectations (CharlotteObserver.com)

RALEIGH When Mark Gottfried goes to the grocery store, he sometimes gets unsolicited advice from fellow shoppers.

“ ‘Hang in there coach, I know it’s going to be a long year for you,’ ” Gottfried said, relaying a conversation. “I hear it everywhere I go.”

Expectations will be a little different for the 2013-14 Wolfpack than they were last year, when N.C. State was ranked No. 6 in the preseason poll and picked to win the ACC. That group, which returned four starters, failed to meet expectations in its 24-11 season, finishing fifth in the league and losing to Temple in its first NCAA tournament game.

This year’s team returns just four scholarship players, one of whom is guard Ralston Turner, who sat out last year after transferring from LSU. Rising sophomore guard Tyler Lewis, forward T.J. Warren and redshirt senior center Jordan Vandenberg complete the rest of the quartet, which Gottfried has asked to fill the leadership void.

Gottfried, in his summer press conference Tuesday, called this team a “blank slate,” with questions pretty much across the board. That has resulted in low-to-nonexistent expectations for those outside the program.

“If I had to walk in my mind through the league and who has what coming back, we’re going to be near the bottom, probably, to start off with,” Gottfried said. “Now for me, personally, I hope to find a way to get in the NCAA tournament every year. Some years, that may be a lot more difficult than others.

DeCock: Wolfpack still looking for leaders (CharlotteObserver.com)

Instead of returning starters or high expectations, N.C. State has questions. Who will play inside? Who will shoot from outside? Who, exactly, is going to score points other than T.J. Warren?

All of those legitimate questions will be answered in one way or another. Someone will have to score. Someone will have to play inside. Someone will have to take some 3-pointers. They may not be as good at it as they were last year, or as good as they would like to be, but someone will have to do it.

There’s one question, however, that is just as urgent but without an answer, necessarily. Who is going to step up and fill the leadership void that has existed since C.J. Williams and Alex Johnson left the program last summer?

A year ago at this time, N.C. State coach Mark Gottfried was asking the same question. No one ever did, and that’s one reason why the Wolfpack never met the expectations it set for itself last season.

 

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47 Responses to Wednesday Misc: Some Basketball Links

  1. Fastback68 07/03/2013 at 6:04 PM #

    Here’s to TJ Warren going off this year like Len Bias back in the day. Without the drug overdose, of course. One hell bent stud could really galvanize this team. Go Pack!!!!

  2. BJD95 07/03/2013 at 6:37 PM #

    I have cautious optimism that Des Lee is going to be really, really good.

    Naturally, the media overpraised us last offseason, and are now overreacting in the opposite direction. This is not a bottom of the league team with no expectations.

    This is a middle of the league team with upside potential, depending on if and when everything comes together. I would be surprised if we finish below .500 in the league. The question for me is if/how far we exceed that.

    If we were both bereft of veterans AND frontline talent…I would be alarmed. But we have 8-9 players that are clearly high-D1 caliber, and a handful with star potential. I would rather have that than a veteran unit like, say, UVA’s.

  3. BJD95 07/03/2013 at 6:49 PM #

    Please remember that I am not a blind optimist here. I very clearly said that if we didn’t get Des Lee, or one/both of WBS and Buckets left…you could commence panic. But they stayed and Lee came, which means we have the necessary raw materials for a good team. And perhaps excellent in 2014-15.

    I don’t think making the dance is unrealistic at all. I would say it’s at least a 50/50 proposition.

  4. highstick 07/03/2013 at 6:50 PM #

    No big deal…a certain Kentucky coach turns his entire team over every year…ready or not!

  5. Dogbreath 07/03/2013 at 6:51 PM #

    If we are counting on Vandenberg in any meaningful way (i.e. for than 2-3 minutes every other game) we are fucked.

  6. Wulfpack 07/03/2013 at 9:01 PM #

    Vandy won’t be getting it done. I’ve seen enough on him to be pretty certain in that opinion.

    We can be a decent team. Making the tourney is this new league will be a very tall order.

  7. JeremyH 07/03/2013 at 9:39 PM #

    Last year we needed 2nd string big guy support and didnt get it from De Hell and VBerg. This year it’s Washington and Freeman’s chance while Anya is also a variable. Hopefully we’ll be steadier at combined guard slots. Don’t remember the last time we brought in a guard at level of Barber. Everyone says no hype there.

  8. john of sparta 07/03/2013 at 9:57 PM #

    bottom line:
    NCAA basketball is Down and sliding further.
    NCAA baseball is Up from almost zero.
    proof: UCLA baseball.

  9. MISTA WOLF 07/03/2013 at 10:03 PM #

    Holy shit. Brad Stevens takes Celtics job.

  10. MISTA WOLF 07/03/2013 at 10:05 PM #

    Holy sh!t. Celtics hire Brad Stevens as head coach.

  11. wufpak77 07/03/2013 at 11:31 PM #

    bjd,,,,ur right,,we’ll win about 22 games this yr and sneak in with a 9 seed!! mark it down!! this yrs team will play with much more effort this yr bc they don’t feel entitled like last yrs team!! got will use leslie and zo as an example of what not to do!!! both should have layed better d!!!!

  12. JeremyH 07/04/2013 at 12:02 AM #

    any Butler recruits looking to transfer?

  13. wolffpride 07/04/2013 at 1:13 AM #

    We have a 50/50 chance of making the tourney this year. I think our out of conference schedule is the right kind of tough. No heavyweights. Mizz and Northwestern at home and Tenn and Cincy on the road. Plus a handful of high RPI games and the early season tourney. If we can finish in upper middle of ACC then we have a chance. Outside of Duke, Syracuse and UNC there is no one any better off than us. We will need to knock off a heavyweight though.

    Stevens leaves Butler…I thought it would never end. I heard Shaka turned them down first.

  14. BJD95 07/04/2013 at 7:31 AM #

    Conference strangth has ZERO bearing on whether we dance. If it really is a behemoth, then 8 or 9 teams could get bids. Fortunately, the selection process bakes this factor in. Hell, I prefer that to a weak conference where you can’t afford a single slip up without being relegated to bubble or “ejector seat” status (like last year).

  15. Gowolves 07/04/2013 at 8:33 AM #

    I think this team will do fine. The reason I feel this way is because of Lewis. He has the knack of finding the open man. In the past we have lacked a true point guard. Say what you want about brown but IMHO he was not a point in the true sense. Kind of like rondo but not as good as good at getting others started. Lewis has that ability. If the guys can pick up the offense then everything will flow. Lewis is obviously a liability on defense but they will have to find a way to offset that. Is this a NCAA tournament team? Perhaps. They will get close if they don’t make it. I don’t see a big drop off from last year. This will be a better TEAM. Whether that translates into enough wins to make some noise we will know by the end of December.

  16. rockpile 07/04/2013 at 11:26 AM #

    gottfried and tony haynes were on raleigh radio yesterday and tony commented that tj warren has grown at least an inch taller than last yr. expecting a monster year from him. and now we dont have to worry about stevens replacing roy or k…i think.

  17. JeremyH 07/04/2013 at 4:56 PM #

    “Gottfried and tony haynes were on raleigh radio yesterday and tony commented that tj warren has grown at least an inch taller than last yr”

    its probably new shoes note that each pack player in the NBA combine were ~1- 1.25 inch shorter than advertised without their shoes.

  18. choppack1 07/04/2013 at 7:28 PM #

    This upcoming season will be interesting… I could see us having a great season or I could see the wheels coming
    off.

    We have some talent, but we have a ton of question marks. I know this, if we don’t defend better, we will suck.

  19. Wulfpack 07/04/2013 at 8:07 PM #

    I totally agree that Lewis is the better overall guy than Brown. However, his defense leaves a lot to be desired. You can go right over him. Outside of TJ though, we return nothing but question marks. So to predict a tourney team is a bit of rose colored glasses IMHO, especially when you consider what we lost. To me, it is not so mich about the overall record and tourney seed but rather improvement. And yes, if we do not defend we can forget it. We won some games last year on offense alone. That won’t happen this year. No room for error. Plenty of room for improvement.

  20. wolffpride 07/04/2013 at 10:54 PM #

    I think we all agree that D is going to be crucial to our success this year. I have a good feeling about this roster and their willingness to play as a team. I don’t think we have the egos to work through. This staff will have its work cut out never the less with such a new mixture.

    Lewis’ size will always be limiting to his success as a defender. He is up to 171 lbs now though, the strength will only help. I also see pure desire to just play basketball from that guy, in the end, he will be fine on D. Besides, Cook and Paige don’t exactly scare me. Who else will he get, Angel Rodriguez maybe? Ian Miller? I think going up against Cat in practice will help a ton.

    Side note: we may be knocking down some threes this year. Turner, Lee, Cat, Lewis, and Warren can all shoot over 30%. With Cat being the biggest question mark.

  21. rtpack24 07/05/2013 at 8:57 AM #

    I believe we have the pieces to have a very good team. I think this year we will see a team that will play harder on a consistent basis. Hopefully this team will have some leadership step up which never happened last year.

  22. choppack1 07/06/2013 at 7:35 PM #

    Uh oh. More problems for Mr. Hairston in Chapel Hill. So surprising that the diligent NCAA or various media members didn’t uncover this.

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