NC State Falls to Temple 76-72 In the NCAA Opening Round

A season that began with great promise ended with NC State losing its opening round game in the NCAA tournament 76-72 to the Temple Owls.

The loss came in the typical way that we’ve seen NC State lose all year: not showing up to start the game and leaving itself far too much work to advance in the field of 64.

The favored Wolfpack started the game lethargically, playing poor defense and with a lot of standing around when it had the ball, leading to a 38-22 halftime deficit.  That lead proved to be too large for the Wolfpack to overcome as it staged a solid second half comeback, and as a result, the team that was picked to win the ACC and to make some noise in the national tournament accomplished….nothing.

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193 Responses to NC State Falls to Temple 76-72 In the NCAA Opening Round

  1. vtpackfan 03/22/2013 at 5:00 PM #

    Post game comments “alluded” to more severe in housing fighting than many would have supposed.

    If true-what point did Gott lose control? He seems to be so much a players coach that if the players don’t like each other he can’t coach.

  2. phillypacker 03/22/2013 at 5:00 PM #

    I do not see the meter moving backwards. Temple was as well coached a team as we have played all year. They took Wood completely out of the game and realized that we were too lazy/unengaged to be aggressive offensively.

  3. ILPackfan 03/22/2013 at 5:00 PM #

    I’ll grant you that. If we get that kind of return on the investment with JV, it’s a good thing.

  4. Alpha Wolf 03/22/2013 at 5:00 PM #


    “It just seemed hard at times to have everybody buy in all the way.”

  5. Alpha Wolf 03/22/2013 at 5:01 PM #

    “I think this team struggled with a lot of things. We had some immaturity at times.”

  6. john of sparta 03/22/2013 at 5:01 PM #

    the first step is to admit
    that you’re not a defensive coach.

  7. patientwuf 03/22/2013 at 5:01 PM #

    “Just show me some defense. We were a terrible defensive team and it showed again today.”

    Exactly. We need effort and a bench.

  8. phillypacker 03/22/2013 at 5:02 PM #

    I think Howell will have a brilliant pro career. He is the kind of guy to work 82 games a year, night in night out. Lowe wasted his talent his first two years. Gott and Lutz really helped him become the player he is now. 18 double-doubles out of 34 games. That is a beastly year.

  9. Wulfpack 03/22/2013 at 5:03 PM #

    There were chemistry issues all year. Gott is airing it out right now. These kids did not play for one another. It showed.

  10. Alpha Wolf 03/22/2013 at 5:03 PM #

    If true-what point did Gott lose control? He seems to be so much a players coach that if the players don’t like each other he can’t coach.

    Then he needs to do what Andrew Carnegie did to his workers: bring in a hardass like Henry Frick to shape them up, like it or not.

    Sorry for the history-geek reference, but seriously, bring in an ass-buster assistant to shape up these guys and to put a stop to their girl-fights in the locker room. At the end of the day, if they aren’t smart enough to realize that they play for the uniform, then sit them. No matter who they are.

  11. vtpackfan 03/22/2013 at 5:04 PM #

    If Zo comes back that you can see it coming a mile away. TL transfer-probably to where Lutz is HC next year.

  12. JohnGalt78 03/22/2013 at 5:04 PM #

    That’s a wrap, folks. My 2 cents: There was a cancer on this team and I, like some above have commented, would really like to see the MRI. Indeed at times it was in remission and I for one enjoyed that team tremendously. But something was wrong. Something significant with a couple of the relationships was tenuous and strained and it infected the whole team when it flared up. The team underachieved in my opinion. Yes, compared to recent years, the program is much better off. But it’s a damn shame that we couldn’t exploit our superior individual talent and put an awesome TEAM on the court that competed on both ends of the court with intensity and guts. The best defense against our offense was our own defense…and that, to me is totally unacceptable. I put that on Gott. Maybe I’m old school but I’d “Bobby Knight” the slack asses that didn’t bust their balls on defense to EARN the right to shoot the ball. Are kids today just to sensitive or untouchable? I sure hope Gott is trending toward coachable kids and I sure hope he actually steps up and coaches defense first. And if they don’t defend, bench ’em regardless of the “star” count.

    Oh well, Gott will have his team next year….so, we’ll see, won’t we?

    JohnGalt78 Out

  13. Wulfpack 03/22/2013 at 5:05 PM #

    We took a step forward this year but a big step back this year with superior talent. We did not move it forward, and next year will be a giant challenge.

  14. Alpha Wolf 03/22/2013 at 5:06 PM #

    If Zo comes back that you can see it coming a mile away. TL transfer-probably to where Lutz is HC next year.

    I love TL, but Cat Barber would probably get the starting nod over him anyway. The kid’s a great change of pace player, but Barber is the real deal kind of PG.

  15. john of sparta 03/22/2013 at 5:06 PM #

    Howell got his due to
    others not getting theirs
    …consistently… and the
    ACC is having a bad year.

  16. phillypacker 03/22/2013 at 5:06 PM #

    john, Gott addressed that long ago by having Lutz develop defensive strategies and game plan defensively. After that, it is about effort and will. Three on five will not win regardless.

    And by the way, for those of us who watched State and the rest of college basketball in the 1970s and 1980s, it is sad to see the severe deterioration of college basketball. The officiating is terrible, players lack fundamentals, do not play with mental sharpness and effort, the way they once did. That’s one reason I love Tyler Lewis and Howell, they are throwbacks.

    College basketball is becoming much less watchable due to the deterioration of officiating. They are inconsistent in calling the most basic aspects of the games like blocked shots, charges, traveling. I mean wow. Getting all ball is not a foul. When Zo Brown gets knocked sideways on his ass, he probably is not traveling.

  17. Wulfpack 03/22/2013 at 5:06 PM #

    Brown and Warren do not get along. That is what I am watching for. And if Brown does come back, Lewis is still your starting PG.

  18. BJD95 03/22/2013 at 5:06 PM #

    Nobody’s saying we didn’t underachieve. We did. Took one step back. Just saying that’s part of the process, and not necessarily a prelude to total implosion.

    This was a talented bunch, but we always had multiple, serious flaws that could be and frequently were exploited. MG will need to construct a more cohesive roster and rotation going forward.

    Years 3 and 4 are always the most important.

  19. wufpup76 03/22/2013 at 5:07 PM #

    How many seasons are we going to suffer through “chemistry issues”?

    Old and tired.

  20. Hawkeye Whitney 03/22/2013 at 5:07 PM #

    For “One Shining Moment” to quote that horrible CBS song, CJL was a million dollar player…last year’s tourney. That’s why the expectations were so high.

    I realized again today that even though he looks spectacular when he scores a bucket, when he subsequently gives up an easy deuce lay-up because of lazy defensive fundamentals, he really didn’t do anything for us. +2 and -2 put together just gives us a zero.

  21. Whiteshoes67 03/22/2013 at 5:08 PM #

    I feel cheated, not because of the W’s and L’s, but because I don’t feel like I got to watch a team on the court each game that busted its butt and played hard. Period. Coaches can control effort. You play hard, or you don’t play. I have no respect for coaches who don’t demand that, expect it, and reward it, or discipline when there is a lack of it.

  22. phillypacker 03/22/2013 at 5:08 PM #

    John, huh?

  23. Alpha Wolf 03/22/2013 at 5:09 PM #

    BJD95 with the common sense…and he’s 100% correct.

    Years 3 and 4 will determine where we are going as a program, and after 4 if it is going south I predict Debbie gives it 1 more and then makes a change.

    Personally, I don’t think it will come to that. Gottfried is a smart guy and he’s just as capable of learning as his players. He’ll evolve too. You could tell he knew he has to in his post-presser today.

  24. phillypacker 03/22/2013 at 5:09 PM #

    Leslie loafed, Warren was inconsistent for a lot of the year but he’s a freshman, of course he was.

  25. packalum44 03/22/2013 at 5:09 PM #

    Zo is a 4th year guy (1 year prep). He’s 22. I would not advise him to stay.

    CJ has the higher ceiling and most to improve. However, the draft next year will be crazy good and honestly, at this point the d-league has a better chance to develop him than another year with Gott.

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