NCSU vs. UNC – The past decade

As we get closer to Saturday’s game against UNC-Chapel Hill, let’s first take a step back and look back at some of the previous games in the rivalry. The rivalry stands with UNC-Chapel Hill having a 63-31-6 overall record against the Wolfpack. Now, all Wal-Mart fans will let you know that this is all that needs to be said. What most people, and let’s get real…all Wal-Mart fans, don’t know or care to know is that before the ACC was formed in 1953, NC State did not fully fund the football team. They would play a majority of games on the road and obviously this would make State’s record worse than it probably should be. For example, from the beginning of World War II in 1939 until the formation of the ACC in 1953, State played UNC-Chapel Hill a total of 11 times, with 9 of them being in played in Chapel Hill. Since the ACC was created, the record in the series has UNC-Chapel Hill up 32-26 (thanks Mike O’Cain). In the 21st century, NC State has a 7-4 advantage in the series.

Let’s look at the last ten games of the series.

2001: Raleigh. UNC 17, NC State 9. This was the first home game after 9/11. Emotions ran high and the pregame ceremonies were very poignant. On the field, Philip Rivers could not get much going on during the game and was beaten by Darian Durant in a close game. The one indelible image is Dovonte Edwards running a post route to score the Wolfpack’s only TD of the day. After he scored, he ran right into the goal post and fell down. He truly ran a post route there.

2002: Chapel Hill. NC State 34, UNC 17. This was a close game with I think UNC leading 17-7 in the second half. But the Pack started to wear down the UNC defense and gave all Wolfpack fans a great memory with Dantonio Burnette recovering a fumble on the UNC 4 after State had cut the score to 17-14. In the 4th quarter, TA McLendon and Josh Brown ran roughshod over the UNC defense as State wound up doubling the score on the Tar Heels.

2003: Raleigh. NC State 47, UNC 34. This was simply the Philip Rivers to Jericho Cotchery show. An offensive shootout was the name of the day. Rivers led the Wolfpack to an early 21-3 lead and they never looked back. Any doubt in the outcome was erased on the first play of the second half when Cotchery, who wound up with 9 receptions for 217 yards, scored on a long TD pass from Rivers. The final score was not nearly indicative of how bad State destroyed UNC. One of my favorite plays from this game was watching Rivers score a running TD by plowing up, over, and through Dexter Reid.

2004: Chapel Hill. UNC 30, NC State 24. The TA fumble game. Nothing more needs to be said except, IT WAS A TOUCHDOWN.

2005: Raleigh. UNC 31, NC State 24. This game was held early in the season before the emergence of Andre Brown. I remember Barrington Edwards running for something like 60 yards on the second play of the game. Talk about a bad omen, even with Toney Baker scoring 2 TDs. State was up 24-14 5 minutes into the second half but self-destructed on both sides of the ball and allowed Matt Baker to lead his team to the game’s final 17 points.

2006: Chapel Hill. UNC 23, NC State 9. This was the last game for both Chuck Amato and John Bunting as head coaches. Bunting had already been fired and Amato knew he probably had to beat both UNC and ECU to keep his job. He lost both and then a few days later, lost his job.

2007: Raleigh. NC State 31, UNC 27. The first matchup between Tom O’Brien and Butch Davis was the best game between the two teams, from a perspective of both teams playing well. Jamelle Eugene lead the Pack with 159 yards rushing and 3 TDs, including the game winning 1 yard touchdown run with less than 2 minutes to go. The defense then shut down TJ Yates (not for the last time in the rivalry) at the end of the game to preserve the victory.

2008: Chapel Hill. NC State 41, UNC 10. This was a total demolition by the Wolfpack. UNC had 6 turnovers on the day. The biggest one was on a kickoff in the 3rd quarter after the Wolfpack had scored to make it a 24-10 lead. The very next play, Russell Wilson threw a 21 yard pass to Owen Spencer for a TD which made it a 31-10 game and basically finished any thoughts of UNC coming back.

2009: Raleigh. NC State 28, UNC 27. Wilson threw 4 TDs in a game that the Wolfpack won where they were helped by the stupidity of the UNC players. The Tar Heels were hit with numerous personal fouls and other dumb penalties that kept the Wolfpack in the game. State, down 24-14 at the half, came back behind two beautiful passes from Wilson to Spencer and a defense that bent but didn’t break, holding UNC to a single field goal in the second half.

2010: Chapel Hill. NC State 29, UNC 25. This one is remembered for multiple reasons. The two yard Hail Mary on 4th down by Wilson that was caught by Spencer (notice a trend in the TD passes). The punch that was thrown after the play by Kevin Reddick (how he wasn’t suspended by the ACC still confounds me…except that ex-UNC AD Swofford is the ACC commissioner). The 87 yard punt return TD by TJ Graham. And the sack by Terrell Manning on Yates for a safety at the end of the game to give State the cushion for the win. I was traveling and missed the game and had to listen to Woody Durham on XM. Hearing him literally get depressed when Yates was sacked, knowing that in Woody’s mind this was his last UNC-NCSU game and that his beloved Tar Heels were going to lose, was just perfect radio.

So there is your quick reminder of the past 10 games in the rivalry. What will happen on Saturday? State is going for its first ever 3 game winning streak over UNC in Raleigh. Mike Glennon is itching to add his name to the list of quarterbacks who lead the Wolfpack over UNC. Now the idiotic comments by Everette Withers followed by the strong rebuttal of Tom O’Brien has stoked the fires to a fever pitch. One thing is for sure…everyone will be ready for kickoff on Saturday at 12:30.

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29 Responses to NCSU vs. UNC – The past decade

  1. Hungwolf 11/03/2011 at 8:36 PM #

    You can count David Glenn as a Wal Mart baby blue idiot, he was just spatting off about the overall UNC record/dominance. Series has been pretty even since the formation of the ACC and those grad rates floating around are from the freshman class of 2006. Given the year Withers choose to quote graduation rates tells me his comments were planned and not just off the cuff.

  2. tuckerdorm1983 11/03/2011 at 8:50 PM #

    a day that will live in infamy.

    Kenan Stadium
    TA McLendon
    one ref calls TD the other says he is down
    Fumble, Fumble, Fumble

    TOB should make his players watch that game

  3. gcpack 11/03/2011 at 9:11 PM #

    David Glenn is an arrogant idiot who stumbled his way to employment with Dennis Wuycik’s “Poop Sheet”, a UNC rag that masqueraded as an ACC sports magazine. Now Glenn runs it and I would never buy one issue cause that jerk doesn’t deserve a dime to stand up and boast that he isn’t biased with his comments on the ACC in the general.

    Here’s some perfect Glenn biased lip flapping. Early in the UNC NCAA investigation many State fans were fussing about the lack of coverage by the media and lack of interest by the BOG so several media members and, I believe Big Mouth Glenn was one of them, kept saying that State fans needed to drop the reference from the Valvano era because it had nothing to do with UNC’s investigation.

    Since mid summer when football preseason practice started and talk ratcheted up about UNC’s scandal everytime it came up on Big Mouth Glenn’s show he would constantly remind listeners that after the NCAA finished up its State investigation that Shackleford had accepted money.
    This never got into the results from the NCAA but leave it to the biased Glenn to bring it up everytime a caller wanted to talk about the worse UNC scandal.

    Don’t be fooled , Glenn is deep into UNC and they are deep into him.

    Piss on Carolina.

  4. Old MacDonald 11/03/2011 at 9:19 PM #

    I wish you would have gone back to 2000. That is one of my favorite UNC-State games ever. Broke the steak with Mike O’Turtleneck calling plays for the Smurfs. Julius Peppers getting flipped on his head and sitting out the rest of the game looking even more retarded than he usually did. Cotra (sp?) running it down their throats. I could go on. Lots and lots of hilarious plotlines.

  5. LRM 11/03/2011 at 9:20 PM #

    ^Cotra rushed for something like 92 yards in the 4th quarter alone in 2000, fresh legs that pounded them into submission. The first TD of the game was Peterson to Philip.

    Danny Boy threw two pick sixes in 2007, both of them deep in Heels territory. That’s the only reason the game was even close. The stress of that goal line stand still haunts me.

    2004 was the only college football game I’ve ever seen where, with no replay to review, points were taken off the board after a “discussion” by Rick Page and Jim Knight.

    Those bastards born and bred.

  6. gcpack 11/03/2011 at 9:20 PM #


    Had that Johnny Swofford butt boy referee Knight died on the field a couple of years earlier when UNC was playing UVa TAs TD would not have been changed.

    Another thing to SFN readers here don’t you think someone in the media should ask Johnny Swofford if he intends to get the other 11 conference members to add another year penalty to whatever the NCAA gives to UNC?

    He did the same as UNC’s AD when Clemson was on probabtion in the early ’80’s by pressuring the other conference members to further penalize the Tigers.

    Swofford needs to be pressured to adding penalties to UNC for the one of the worst scandals in ACC football history. Anyone agree?

    Piss on Carolina.

  7. Ashman87 11/03/2011 at 9:21 PM #

    This is a weird series because I have plenty of good memories and bad memories as well. My good memories are 1986,1988-89,1991,2000,2003 and 2007-2010. My bad memories are 1987 (this game still annoys Sheridan), 1993, 1996, 1998-9, 2001, 2005, and 2006. (1990 was good too, but the game wasn’t on TV. Neither was the 89 game, but I was in C-F that day.)

  8. gcpack 11/03/2011 at 9:27 PM #

    There are still smurf fans sitting in Kenan right now that haven’t moved since Damen Hartmen kicked that 55 yard field goal on the last play of the game. Late 80’s I think but not sure of the exact year.

    Piss on Carolina.

  9. Old MacDonald 11/03/2011 at 9:28 PM #

    As to the 2007 game, someone should do a study on the % of games where the winning team throws 2 pick sixes.

  10. Wulfpack 11/03/2011 at 9:29 PM #

    I think this is going to be one hell of a game Saturday. Too bad the only people watching will be in our state. Nationally, this game is a spec on the radar. I don’t care – I just want a W.

  11. Old MacDonald 11/03/2011 at 9:29 PM #

    The Hartman game was 90 iirc.

  12. Old MacDonald 11/03/2011 at 9:37 PM #

    Without looking anything up, so some of this could be slightly off.

    86 – crazy back and forth game won when the UNC TE had his knee down when he caught the 2-point conversion throw. Naz Worthen was fantastic, as was Ray Agnew.

    87 – Sheridan’s only loss.

    88 – 47-3 in Chapel Hill. Hilarious game. We came out in the hurry-up offense I think.

    89 – 40-6.

    90 – Hartman game 12-9 or something like that.

    91 – Snake Vinson (sp?) pick-6 sealed it. Terry Jordan had his arm broken in the 2nd quarter. Geoff Bender threw a TD on the next play. (to Guffie iirc)

    92 – 28-21 or something like that. Terry Jordan had one of the more amazing games I have ever seen. Went 25 for 27 or something crazy. And one of the incompletions was a drop.

  13. Ashman87 11/03/2011 at 9:46 PM #

    Old MacDonald, 48-3 in 1988. (First link) Sebastien Savage with the pick in 1991 (second link). The 1992 game was on here, but it was taken off. Hope you guys enjoy watching Brown losing to Sheridan. (Sort of makes up for O’Cain losses to Brown).
    (The 88 game also has clips of the 86 and 87 games, while the 91 game has a clip of THE kick).

  14. newt 11/03/2011 at 9:52 PM #

    The 2000 game was an epic fail by UNC’s defense. Seemed like Cotra ran for 8 yards up the middle every play in the second half in Kenan. It was beautiful.

  15. highstick 11/03/2011 at 9:52 PM #

    “Siss on you Tarholes, you ain’t so muckin’ futch”!!

  16. turfpack 11/03/2011 at 10:02 PM #

    Of all the games… the 3rd quater of the 41-10 game at UNX and all you see is aluminum with red!
    Also on that Monday sports talk show with Bomoni Jones… when a lady called in (was it real?)about State going over to UNC and drive their tractors all over their asses.

  17. BJD95 11/03/2011 at 10:06 PM #

    2004 also marks the single dumbest move by Chuck Amato (and that’s saying a lot) – accepting a 5-yard formation penalty, giving up a 4th and 3 for 3rd and 8 (FG range in either event). Holes score a TD on the replayed 3rd down.

    The rest of the Amato era pretty much followed in that vein.

  18. LKNpackfan 11/03/2011 at 10:31 PM #

    Does anyone have a link to that picture of TA breaking the goalline plane in the 2004 UNC game? I know it’s out there but google isn’t being very helpful.

  19. gcpack 11/03/2011 at 10:39 PM #

    Well BJD outside of the UNC series Amato also idiotically didn’t challenge for a review of the last play of the Akron game. By then he could have, unlike the TA fiasco.

    We would have won and the whole non-qualifier recruiting answer Amato gave over the following two weeks would never have come up.

  20. OldWuf 11/03/2011 at 10:52 PM #

    Hopefully Dumbass Withers’ comments and TOB’s response have fired our guys up. Beat those pretentious, elitist bastards! Carolina Sux!

  21. WV Wolf 11/03/2011 at 11:06 PM #

    Thanks for the trip down memory lane (or at least for the wins).

    One of my favorite moments that hasn’t been mentioned yet was 2002 in Chapel Hill, UNC blocked an extra point and Sean Locklear (an offensive lineman mind you) ran close to 80 yards to chase down a UNC linebacker.

    If I remember right 2002 was also the “logo defense”. In 2000 after we won our players ran out to midfield and celebrated. UNC thought we were jumping on their precious logo. So in 2002 as soon as the clock went to zero UNC players sprinted to midfield to make sure our guys didn’t jump on their logo. This meant that UNC took the time to formulate a plan for when they lost. A football team in a rivalry game shouldn’t make plans for a loss.

  22. Ashman87 11/04/2011 at 12:35 AM #

    Actually, if you go the ACC Vault, on, you can watch the 2002 game.

  23. Wolfgarden 11/04/2011 at 8:19 AM #

    Well, well, well. Here we are again. GO PACK and whoop orange county real bad!!! (I do oh so much hope this happens) But keeping it real now…we did not even have an offense in the FSU game. Not a sniff of one. This is troubling to a great degree, for we have always played well against FSU. Our sucess has always been our speed on both sides of the ball. When we line up against a big boy large good players we have a tough time and generally lose. But when we go speed to speed then we have had sucess, like with FSU in the past.

    What happened? It is all coaching, please trust me in this. TOB it seems is trying to duplicate what he had in BC, large good players. We just do not recruit that well like that down here in the south. Must find another way and know your competition…U of M, FSU, and yes Carolina. Okay we have beaten them readily for the past few years and I hope we crush them on Saturday. But we cannot and must not play like TOB coached us against FSU last week or we will be in for a very humiliating day.

    I hate to write these things…I love the Pack…where is Mike Leach or Philip Fulmer???

  24. waterwolf 11/04/2011 at 8:59 AM #

    I know the story only covered a decade, but it’s hard not to include the 2000 game. It broke the streak and the pass from Peterson to Rivers was priceless.

    The 2002 game was also a great one. For all Amato’s mistakes, he made a good call in this game. We couldn’t pass in the first half and if I remember correctly, he said to only run the ball the 2nd half. That tight-end that transferred from WV (Berton??) was just mashing UNC off the ball. He was a tough sob.

    2008 – Maybe my favorite of all time. Watching this with my family during the 3rd quarter we were actually belly laughing at how bad the beat down was. Watching tits Austing trying to chase down Russell with his tongue hanging out was hilarious. Plus it was at Kenan.

  25. TheAliasTroll 11/04/2011 at 9:44 AM #

    My favorite was 41-10…. In Kenan.

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