Et Tu, ECU?

The Chinese curse of “may you live in interesting times” could not possibly be any more applicable than it is today in Terry Holland’s offices in Greenville.  That’s because with the ACC expanding — again — the ECU athletic director has an interesting set of possibilities, with some of them possibly meaning disaster for one of the most ambitious programs in the country. 

ECU could either finally end up in a major (read: BCS) conference, which seems to have been its goal since the school took up sports, or it could once again end up on the scrap pile of irrelevancy by not moving at all and remaining in the husk of what’s left of Conference USA once this game of sports conference musical chairs is done.

 First, the ACC.  To some sports pundits not in ACC territory, the latest round of conference expansion has some surprising dance partners.  To those of us in the traditional heart of the conference, not so much, in fact, the ostensible two new members of the ACC perfect sense.  Syracuse was strongly considered in the expansion that brought BC, Viginia Tech and Miami into the ACC. At that time, it was widely held that the conference honchos wanted Syracuse rather than VT. The rub was that Virginia was told by its state government that it could not vote “aye” for the expansion plans unless VT was included. Thus, it was Syracuse out, VT in. In 2011, however, Jim Boeheim in the ACC is a logical conclusion to a process that started long ago.

Pitt was also mentioned at that last round of ACC expansion, albeit only slightly, but it makes sense given that the ACC will not get who it really wants: Penn State. While the Nittany Lions hardly have a notable basketball program, the whole expansion issue revolves around football, and the ACC would love to see its logo on the field in Happy Valley. That won’t happen, of course, because Penn State is a content Big Ten member…so Pitt it is.  And why not?  The Panthers are in a huge television market full of some of the most passionate sports fans in the world,  fans who support their team so rabidly that it is fair to compare them to English Premiere League (soccer) fans.  Given those qualifications, Pitt is a no-brainer over the ACC’s headquarters in Greensboro.

Pitt’s move, however raises a very good question: what’s West By-God Virginia going to do, especially with two of its natural rivals — Pitt and VT — in a new ACC? One could see the Mountaineers coming to the ACC hat-in-hand, asking to join and bring their ambulance beating and couch burning traditions into the conference.  Whether the ACC is interested, however, is another story, and it doesn’t appear that John Swofford is cutting any new trails into the hills leading to Morgantown.

That brings us back to ECU.  You can bet that the purple clad fans to the Wolfpack’s eastern flanks are not planning to be left out this time.  There’s talk of joining the Big East, which seems reasonable given the wounds that John Marinatto will want to salve almost immediately as his conference disintegrates around him as it currently is.  That might happen, given the Big East’s desperation.  Their position is so dire, it’s almost a palpable smell in the air.

It’s probably not what the Pirates really want, however, and while they to a fan might say that they do, if they have a moment of clarity and one of blunt honesty, they’ll probably tell you that they want into the ACC, after all, it’s where the two flagship UNC System schools — their hated rivals — reside.  ECU, if nothing else, wants to be one of the Big Boys, not only in sports, but also in the UNC System itself.  While the university is growing leaps and bounds and has steadily grown and increased its academic stature, joining the ACC would probably represent — to them — their crowning as one of a Big Threein terms of universities that they envision their having a natural right to be among.

Problem is, it doesn’t appear that the ACC is interested. The Pirates have a sub top-100 local TV market and no real basketball tradition, so they offer next to nothing to the ACC’s demographics experts.  The ACC will easily overlook the fact that ECU’s fanbase is one of the most loyal and rabid you will find – while comparitively small next to the Universities of Tennessee or Alabama, their devotion approaches SEC-type love.  In fact, I often think of South Carolina and its fans when I think of a school to compare ECU’s fans to.  Love or hate the Gamecocks or the Pirates, their fans are in their seats when their teams play, win or lose.

 The one thing trump card that the Pirates do have, however, is a powerful set of state legislators here in North Carolina who would like to see their school prosper in athletics and who also have a great deal of influence on the University system through the state of North Carolina’s budgetary process.  All that said: do not be too surprised if in North Carolina you see a VT-UVA type effort from the state legislature on the behalf of ECU — a school that wants into the BCS so badly its fans never stop talking about it.  These days, prosper means the BCS, and it would not at all be very surprising in the least to see those fellows who haunt Jones Street try to pull the same game on the ACC that their counterparts in Virgina did not too many years ago.  And who knows, they just might win…never underestimate the powers of persuasion that those who control the purse strings have.  Fools in the past have done just that, usually to their chagrin.

So, with all of this in mind, Terry Holland must choose his next move carefully, as it will likely define his career at ECU for all time.  Coach Holland most definitely lives in interesting times.

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36 Responses to Et Tu, ECU?

  1. panic83 09/18/2011 at 8:15 PM #

    Does this mean Pitt would come to Atlantic and Cuse to the Coastal(or visa versa)… or is there going be a completely new realignment like North and South divisions?

  2. the reality 09/18/2011 at 8:45 PM #

    Yeah, yeah, yeah, bigger always means better. We’ve certainly experienced that with the last “expansions”. The quality and enjoyment of ACC athletics has absolutely gone straight through the roof, hasn’t it now? Or maybe should I have said “more” instead. As in, bigger always mean more, and more, and more, and more… just ask John Swofford, he’ll tell ya’.

    Expansion is good… for the pocketbook… and that’s ALL this is. It’s cheapened, every single aspect of it, and it’s all about eat or be eaten nowdays. None of this has to do with quality. This all started as a race to see who could rush in a mad dash to gather up the largest pile of dollar bills.

    Instead of being the draw that it once was, The now football wannabe ACC, is left picking and choosing between an unspectacular crowd of also-rans.

    But hey, have at it, suck it all up, it’s gotta be the right thing to do, because everyone else is doing it.

    Texas, in the Atlantic Coast Conference, now that makes perfect sense to me. Why don’t we just go grab off a team from China while we’re at it? I mean, I believe they’re considered “east” at least anyway.

    If this the new wave, then why not just get rid of the conference names altogether? Have conference #01, and #02, and so on… Then Team “P” from conference #9, could play a early season tune-up game against team “98” from conference “Y”, which is course a subset of the regular numerated conferences, as the letter/number inversion so indicates. Of course now that all of that has been clearly established, overall assets, bank accounts, and credit scores would just naturally weigh heavily in all tournament seedings and other determinations, and so on, and so forth…

  3. tjfoose1 09/18/2011 at 9:07 PM #

    14, 15, 16 team conferences… ridiculous.

  4. Wulfpack 09/18/2011 at 9:54 PM #

    15 and 16 will be WVU and UConn.

  5. highstick 09/18/2011 at 9:58 PM #

    Hey, Swofford, you just jumped to add 46 teams to the ACC and guess what? No one gives a rat’s behind!

    If the ACC wasn’t headed towards death, it is now!.

  6. lupus occidit arietem 09/18/2011 at 10:15 PM #

    Nd and Texas are the two best choices anyone has posted here, but are both long, long (did I say long?) shots. The ACC is looking for tv revenue first, so there will be no expansion in an existing state. Second and third are good schools with a commitment to athletics. The best choices for tv markets in close geography are easily NJ and Ohio, if Texas is too far away. With the money comes prosperity. With only 64 teams competing for the top talent in a few years football will automatically get better everywhere. Uconn and WVU are not the right type of schools, nor do they bring big tv monies. My bet, we end up with RU and Cincy, if we want them or not.

  7. GboroPack 09/18/2011 at 10:19 PM #

    No.

  8. pack76 09/18/2011 at 11:01 PM #

    Lupus, you are probably right but I pray not! We need to look SOUTH!!!

  9. ncsu1987 09/19/2011 at 10:30 AM #

    Great read, Alpha! Mr. Holland needs to take swift action, but his palatable choices will be very limited. Staying tuned…

  10. packbackr04 09/19/2011 at 11:31 AM #

    ECU wont get an invite this go round. but if the SEC poaches FSU and Clemson…. ECU might get their wish. god help us all

  11. Mike 09/19/2011 at 11:51 AM #

    I know I am old school, but I would prefer to go to 16, then re-laign with divisions:

    Old:
    NCSU
    Duke
    UNX
    Clemson
    GT
    MD
    Wake
    UVA

    New:
    FSU
    Miami
    BC
    VT
    Cuse
    Pitt
    TBD
    TBD

    I know it wont happen, but would be nice to go back to the round robin format we enjoyed in the 70’s/80’s.

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