Wednesday Woolgathering

August 24, 2011

NC STATE FOOTBALL

COUNTDOWN TO KICKOFF: 10 DAYS

Matt Carter (TheWolfpacker.com)
Tuesday Practice Report: O’Brien talks Sweezy injury

NC State had its fourth and final preseason scrimmage last Sunday, and the focus of the work was to get a long look at the young players, particularly the true freshmen.

“We gave a lot of the young kids the opportunity,” O’Brien said. “A lot of veterans didn’t scrimmage. We didn’t put them in those situations. They had enough play. For some of them, it was our last chance to look at the freshmen after 20 practices, give them a chance to see if they’ve learned anything, if they can help us this year or should be redshirted.

“The thing that comes back to most freshmen is sometimes it’s not the best athlete or most talented guy that plays, it’s the most dependable because that’s still the most important ability, it’s dependability. A freshman is going to play if we can count on them, if he knows where to go and what to do, doesn’t matter what the talent level is. If we need him he’s got to dependable and do the things we have to do so we can be successful on offense and defense.”

JP Giglio (N&O)
Wolfpack has a Plan B for quarterback spot

With Mike Glennon’s move to starter, N.C. State needs a new Plan B at quarterback.

Redshirt freshman Tyler Brosius and senior walk-on Daniel Imhoff are the top options to back up Glennon.

Just as there are questions about Glennon as a first-time starter, there are questions about how Brosius, the presumptive backup, would handle an overhauled offense. The past two seasons, with Russell Wilson as the starter, there was a sense among Wolfpack players and fans that Glennon would be able to step in and perform.

Brett Friedlander (WilmingtonStar)
Wolfpack receivers need to start catching on

At the same time, though, questions about State’s ability to catch the football and move the chains seem destined to persist until someone steps forward and provides an answer once the games begin.

“For awhile there we were up-and-down,” O’Brien said. “I think we’ve been much more consistent here the last week, which is good for us. If they continue to work the way they have and catch the ball the way they have, we should be fine.”

Holding onto the ball has always been an issue for Graham – a track star and return ace whose hands have yet to catch up with his speedy feet and vast potential. His 53 career receptions and five touchdowns make him the most experienced of the returning corps.

But he is better known for his drops than his catches.

THE WILSON WATCH

Tyler Norsworthy (ESPN)
Wilson and Badgers might equal title

Wisconsin’s run-first mentality – the Badgers had the 12th-most rushing yards in the nation in 2010 – should give Wilson opportunities to take advantage of play-action fakes. Against ACC opponents last season, Wilson’s completion percentage, passing efficiency and touchdown-interception ratio were all superior when throwing after a play-action fake.

Mark Schlabach (ESPN)
QB Russell Wilson jelling with Badgers

Wisconsin’s players said Wilson won them over with his humility and work ethic.

“It was straight to the point,” safety Aaron Henry said. “He didn’t beat around the bush and was really blunt. A lot of guys come in and try to tell you their track record at another school. He just said he came to Wisconsin to work hard, and that really made an impression on everyone.”

Wilson also impressed his new teammates by joining the Badgers’ other rookies in singing the school’s fight song and being ceremoniously dumped in an ice water bath in preseason camp.

“He meshed really well with the guys,” Toon said. “He came in, and everybody really liked him. We had great chemistry last year, and we’re trying to get that to carry over.”

MULTIMEDIA/PODCAST

ACC Preview

Kirk Herbstreit shares his thoughts on the ACC and makes a few predictions about the 2011 season.

ACC BASKETBALL

Akula Wolf (BackingthePack.com)
Would You Like To Play Power Forward In The ACC This Season?

UNC FALLOUT

Dan Kane (N&O)
UNC overstated number of freshmen taking upper level classes in Marvin Austin story

It turns out not so many freshmen had taken upper level classes at UNC-Chapel Hill as a spokesman originally told us in our Sunday story about former football player Marvin Austin’s academic transcript.

UNC spokesman Mike McFarland originally said 1,033 freshman had taken a 400 level class in the most recently completed academic year. He has now corrected that to 683 freshmen.

The statistic is significant because McFarland cited it to suggest that Austin’s first class at the university — a 400 level African-American studies course during the second summer session of 2007 — might not be all that unusual. There were 3,846 freshmen in last year’s class, so the original number would suggest one in four freshmen took a 400 level class.

Gregg Doyel (CBSSports.com)
To clean up its image, North Carolina should hire Randy Shannon

Now it’s North Carolina’s turn, but I’m not confident the Tar Heels understand what they need. Lord knows they didn’t know it was time to get rid of Butch Davis when it was clearly time to get rid of Butch Davis — a year ago, when the NCAA was investigating separate scandals, when nearly 20 percent of the team was suspended and when Davis’ close friend and recruiting coordinator, John Blake, was being exposed as a longtime runner for an agent.

North Carolina needs Randy Shannon, but North Carolina was the last to know it didn’t need Butch Davis. Then again, a different athletic director will be making this hire at UNC, so there is hope. Also, the list of realistic candidates for the job won’t be impressive, given the NCAA sanctions sure to be facing the Tar Heels. There will be some ambitious head coaches at smaller schools willing to do anything to get into a BCS conference. There will be veteran assistants at big-time football schools who’ve never been able to land a BCS head-coaching gig.

THE U-NIVERSE

Tony Barnhart (CBSSports.com)
New cause: Give cheating coaches the death penalty

If you want to cut back on the cheating, make it clear to coaches that if they are intentionally involved in a major rules violation, a la Jim Tressel, and if they lie about or obstruct the investigation — again like Tressel — they will be banned from coaching at any level of the NCAA for life.

A friend of mine, a former assistant football coach, said that it couldn’t be done. It would be too draconian. The NCAA could not make a rule to keep people from making a living. I respectfully disagree. The NCAA is a voluntary organization and if the presidents decided that this was the way to go, the political climate is now right to do it. Yes, the coach would have to receive due process and there would have to be a system of appeal.

Gary Parrish (CBSSports.com)
‘Waiting’ worst place Missouri can leave Haith, hoops program

“We’re waiting for the NCAA process to carry itself out,” Missouri chancellor Brady Deaton said. “We’re obviously very concerned.”

Very foolish, too.

With those 14 words, Deaton paralyzed Haith — just left his coach swirling in unknown winds and gave every program recruiting against the Tigers the ability to cast serious doubt on Haith’s future. It might’ve been an honest statement, but it was a stupid one. Missouri needed to either start negotiating a buyout with Haith based on the serious nature of the allegation or publicly back him against “the word of a criminal” regardless of whether his job is really in jeopardy behind the scenes. Either option would’ve made sense on some level. But it makes no sense for Missouri to keep Haith while acknowledging it’s waiting on the results of the NCAA’s investigation into Miami, because investigations take a long time and the wait could destroy one recruiting class and possibly more.

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19 Responses to Wednesday Woolgathering

  1. notagain 08/24/2011 at 7:37 AM #

    This may have already been discussed, but speaking of Mizzou, I wonder if we are closer to getting a commitment from Rodney Purvis now???

  2. VaWolf82 08/24/2011 at 8:29 AM #

    To clean up its image, North Carolina should hire Randy Shannon

    You just can’t fix stupid. There is no reason to hire a bad footbal coach just because he can recognize a slimeball and has the backbone to do something about it.

  3. primacyone 08/24/2011 at 8:53 AM #

    VaWolf82, I think you are missing the point(s):

    “If North Carolina can do better than Randy Shannon, do it. But I’m telling you, it can’t.”

  4. rtpack24 08/24/2011 at 9:35 AM #

    Randy Shannon that played at Miami and coached there as an asst. and the head coach, hire him to clean the UNC program up? What a joke.

  5. VaWolf82 08/24/2011 at 9:48 AM #

    “If North Carolina can do better than Randy Shannon, do it. But I’m telling you, it can’t.”

    Doyel thought that Sendek was a great coach. What does that tell you about his thought processes (using the term loosely)?

  6. packalum44 08/24/2011 at 10:14 AM #

    “…banned from coaching at any level of the NCAA for life…the political climate is now right to do it.”

    I can agree with the sentiment that the NCAA has the right political climate to smash programs into the ground. Do not think that Miami’s shenanigans has set the “relative” cheating bar any lower. If anything it has further outraged adults who pay money to attend and watch games.

    Most fans with 4 year degrees and triple digit IQs (the middle class fans) are fed up. Not good for any program with the noose around their neck. Every fan not at a cheating school wants blood. Give the masses what they want.

  7. TheCOWDOG 08/24/2011 at 10:37 AM #

    ” UNC spokesman Mike McFarland originally said 1,033 freshman had taken a 400 level class in the most recently completed academic year. He has now corrected that to 683 freshmen.”

    OK…so McFarland doubles as attendance keeper, too.

    Someone give these guys an abacus.

  8. primacyone 08/24/2011 at 10:43 AM #

    “VaWolf82 Says:
    August 24th, 2011 at 9:48 am
    “If North Carolina can do better than Randy Shannon, do it. But I’m telling you, it can’t.”

    Doyel thought that Sendek was a great coach. What does that tell you about his thought processes (using the term loosely)?”

    Where in the heck is he saying Randy Shannon is a great coach? I read it as Randy Shannon is not a great coach, but that’s the best UNC is going to do so they better go ahead and get their heads wrapped around that fact.

    And that based on recent performance that Randy Shannon was a much better choice than Butch, even though Randy Shannon is not a great coach. Also read him saying Dicky Baddour was in way over his head and the holes provided a good demonstration of idocy in the recent past and they better get a move on with some smartness.

    Thats just my take. I’ll reread and see what I get.

    Not that they would hire Randy Shannon or Randy Shannon would go there, but do you really think they can do better than him considereing the circumstances?

  9. 61Packer 08/24/2011 at 11:01 AM #

    As a State fan, I hope to goodness that UNC hires Randy Shannon for their next head coach. It would do two things- keep their connection to a school that cheats maybe even more than they do, and would put a coach in charge who appeared clueless at Miami as to how to lead a big-time program, the aspiration that got UNC in the mess they’re in. By all means, bring in a Baddour clone and hire Shannon! Pretty please!

    Missouri’s problem isn’t half as much Haith (who’s a TERRIBLE coach) as it is the AD who hired him in the first place. If Purvis isn’t smart enough to bail, then he probably wouldn’t be smart enough to play meaningful basketball for the Pack if he chose us.

    After suffering through the last 20+ years as a Wolfpack sports fan, I couldn’t care less if every other team in Division One had at least half the problems the Heels, Tigers, Hurricanes et al have had lately. In fact, I laugh at every new report. Rock on, cheaters!!!!!!!!!!!!

  10. packhammer 08/24/2011 at 11:03 AM #

    On a more positive note, I bought a bunch of tickets yesterday to donate for Military Appreciation Day. Hope others will do the same. And sign up to host some of the guys at your tailgate. We should try to make this event bigger and better every year.

  11. MP 08/24/2011 at 12:28 PM #

    Re: Randy Shannon

    When did we collectively stop thinking that Greg Doyel’s “advice” was intended for anything other than inciting reaction?

  12. VaWolf82 08/24/2011 at 12:30 PM #

    Where in the heck is he saying Randy Shannon is a great coach?

    Sorry for the confusion. Here’s what I was thinking:

    Doyel is an idiot proven by many things, including his claim that Sendek was a great coach. Since he is a proven idiot, anything he claims should be disregarded unless supported by overwhelming evidence. Doyel’s claim that Shannon is as good as UNC can hope for is no more valid than his opinion of Sendek.

  13. Pack Mentality 08/24/2011 at 12:37 PM #

    What kind of absolute moron would claim that Randy Shannon is a clean coach?

  14. baxter 08/24/2011 at 12:50 PM #

    Shannon is pretty much known for being a straight arrow. I actually think Doyel is right, and Shannon is someone you want to hire to get you through the penalty/probation stage and Doyel’s points about off field incidents and APR are pretty valid for what UNC needs. I don’t think Randy is really that awful, he’s actually more on par with what UNC should expect from a coach.

  15. logarithm 08/24/2011 at 12:57 PM #

    I can see the logic behind suggesting Shannon for coach at UNC but I imagine Everett Withers holds his future as head coach in his hands. Withers. Do you think he’d stick around after this year if he was head coach for a year, won at least 6 games, and they hire some other former linebacker coach for the head coach position?

    From Dickie and the future AD’s perspective, do you think it’d rebuild confidence in the program to hire a coach who played at a dirty program, worked at a dirty program, head coached at a dirty program despite knowing the program was dirty and did a pretty mediocre job throughout it all? The real question is whether or not they’ll be able to do any better.

    How many of the coaches potentially brought onboard with Shannon were quietly caught up in the shenanigans? I don’t foresee them hiring Randy Shannon unless they really scrape the barrel.

    I also like the coaching death penalty. It may have the unintended consequence of sending more coaches to the NFL or it may make fewer (hopefully dirty) young men want to go into coaching, but I think it’ll definitely clean up coaching by keeping the top man accountable.Or it may revolutionize cheating.

  16. dindc 08/24/2011 at 1:04 PM #

    Did no one else notice that Marvin hurt one of his “moobs”?

    http://www.newsobserver.com/2011/08/24/1431880/giants-austin-out-for-season.html

  17. GAWolf 08/24/2011 at 1:08 PM #

    Go (honey) Badgers!

  18. JSRy2k 08/24/2011 at 1:08 PM #

    I LIKE Barnhart’s idea about coaching death penalty! Not sure how it would best be laid out, but if a business can tell someone, “You’re not welcome here again,” then the NCAA can tell a coach the same.

  19. Pack Mentality 08/24/2011 at 3:00 PM #

    Sorry if I don’t suspend my disbelief and agree that Shannon is a “straight arrow.” I’m really supposed to believe that the head coach of Miami during this scandal that could possibly land them the death penalty is clean. A school that just fired an ex Miami coach who supposedly cleaned up the program and was canned for having the dirtiest program in America on multiple fronts (besides possibly Miami), should then go and hire the “clean” Miami coach to clean up their program.

    You are stating this garbage with a straight face? I hope only the worst for UNC, and this plan may just be that.

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