More UNC-CH Honor Court questions have arrove


Stemming from the recent break-in at the UNC Honor Court, this recent piece from reese campus talks about the break-in suspect and fills in some details about the alleged crime.

Perhaps more interesting in the linked article is the discussion of additional apparent irregularities in the Honor Court’s treatment of UNC-CH athletes.  Read closely and you might see the phrase “male starting basketball player.”  Here are some interesting passages from the reese campus piece:

Even before it was discovered that the UNC-Chapel Hill Honor Court had overlooked a case of blatant plagiarism in a paper by UNC football player Michael McAdoo, many faculty members were dissatisfied with how the University handles academic infractions. Now, Chancellor Holden Thorp wants a faculty committee to review the honor system.

But this isn’t the first time that the Honor Court has come under fire. During the spring of 2010, the University’s Educational Policy Committee conducted a survey on faculty opinions of the Honor Court, receiving 577 responses from faculty members, lecturers and teaching assistants.

Many of those surveyed said the system is functioning well.

But in anonymous comments, other instructors expressed concern over the special treatment the University seemed to be giving student-athletes.

“The evidence of cheating could not have been more obvious, and the excuse given was completely implausible,” reads one comment. “Also, this case dealt with a student-athlete, and I found the interventions from the athletics department asking that the case not be brought before the Honor Court unethical.”

One respondent suggested that high-profile student-athletes appeared to have ghost writers for their essays.

Another comment read: “(W)hen  I turned in two different people on the very same day for violations committed in the very same class, the case of one was resolved fairly quickly and I was told what the sanctions were. The other case, that of a male starting basketball player, somehow – gosh I wonder how that happened? – was not resolved for months, not until after tournament season was over.”

The part I have bolded sounds vaguely important, don’t you agree?  I thought this was only about football.


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21 Responses to More UNC-CH Honor Court questions have arrove

  1. Alpha Wolf 08/04/2011 at 6:36 PM #

    So the Honor Court system is as broken as the admissions process, the oversight process, the tutoring process, and so forth and so on?

    Who could have POSSIBLY ever seen THAT coming?? Well, besides the professional educators that are supposed to keep things focused on…education and stuff.

  2. tobaccordshow 08/04/2011 at 6:43 PM #

    Urging a bit of caution that line from the piece seems a little tongue-in-cheek. With the whole “gosh how did that happen” piece.

    Maybe they’re baiting us?

  3. TLeo 08/04/2011 at 6:54 PM #

    They are so full of crap over there at Cheater-Hill, their school colors should be brown and black instead of blue.

  4. highstick 08/04/2011 at 7:00 PM #

    Alpha, the next thing we’re going to find out is that the “Old Well” has been infiltrated by contaminated water and that James Taylor is really from Durham…

  5. BJD95 08/04/2011 at 7:00 PM #

    Ruh roh, Ol’ Roy isn’t gonna like seeing that in print. Time for an Oxy!!!

  6. GAWolf 08/04/2011 at 7:16 PM #

    alpha: none of those can exist without the others being true.

  7. BladenWolf 08/04/2011 at 7:33 PM #

    “They are so full of crap over there at Cheater-Hill, their school colors should be brown and black instead of blue.”

    Oh I dunno. When I eat a pint of Bladen County blueberries… my crap looks just like ’em. A little better actually. 🙂

  8. tann84 08/04/2011 at 7:41 PM #

    I think this is the real reason why Butch got fired. They figured with him gone people would stop digging. But it seems that this rabbit hole goes beyond football, I wonder if anything will come of this?

  9. TruthBKnown Returns 08/04/2011 at 7:44 PM #

    Stuff like this gives me hope that *maybe* it’s not too late for them to get that coveted LOIC moniker.

    And also that this scandal could touch other *ahem* athletics program(s) besides football. One in particular…….

    What I’d like to know, though, is if these anonymous professors were so concerned about these actions, why didn’t they blow the whistle even before now? Why now?

  10. BureauOfMines 08/04/2011 at 8:42 PM #

    Yessiree, BJD95. Them veins’ll be bulging out on the sides of Roy’s head and his face’ll be red as a beet when he reads that. This could be the beginning of the REAL pucker factor in Chapel Hill.

  11. timberwolf 08/04/2011 at 9:30 PM #

    In the late 90’s I taught a class at NCSU. A student approached me day one after class stating he had to get at least a B. After some smalltalk he said he was on the baseball team I said something to the effect “to stay on the team, right?”. He was shocked. “No Sir, I want at least a 3.0 GPA.” for grad school concerns. Well he busted ass but didn’t get it. A year later he did ask for a letter of rep for g-school. He never saw the letter, but it glowed with this story. My retort was favorable and I hope he got in.

    Chapel Hill is a disgrace.

    Apologize typos from handheld device

  12. tuckerdorm1983 08/04/2011 at 9:43 PM #


    so who is garrett lee haywood???

    why did he break in to the honor court??

    how did they catch him so quick??

    if he had already graduated, then why did he steal files??

    does the honor court scan its files?

    were these files scanned?

    did they recover the files??


  13. Virginia Wolf 08/04/2011 at 9:43 PM #

    This just keep getting better every day. Ole Roy is a squirming and I’m rejoicing! The rot on the hill is eating away at all thoughts of integrity and character. More like the whole athletic department is rotten now. Pass the popcorn!!!

  14. timberwolf 08/04/2011 at 9:52 PM #
  15. runwiththepack 08/04/2011 at 10:07 PM #

    “Butch Davis is just a symptom” of the ailment that afflicts Chapel Hill.
    Football LOIC would be appropriate, but that doesn’t get to the heart of the matter.
    If this mess spreads into basketball, great! But that doesn’t get to the heart of the matter, either.
    UNC-CH: to seem, rather than to be.
    There are lots of good folks in Chapel Hill, especially the faculty. But the head of this snake just might get chopped off. They’ll just have to grow a new one.
    My favorite line:
    One respondent suggested that high-profile student-athletes appeared to have ghost writers for their essays.

  16. Greywolf 08/04/2011 at 10:27 PM #

    Comment #1 timberwolf was referring to: “…keep your head up dude. Get some good lawyers and expose some stuff. I think you’ve got a really interesting story to tell.”

    I’d contribute to the Garrett Lee Haywood Defense Fund.

  17. lonepacker 08/04/2011 at 10:37 PM #

    Dear Carolina Colleagues and Students:

    My decision last week to ask head football coach Butch Davis to step down was difficult. I think it was the right decision, and I wanted to let you know why I made that call.

    Throughout the NCAA investigation of our football program, I said that we would take all accusations seriously and that we would face issues head on. We apologized, and we pledged that the athletic department and the University would be stronger as a result of the investigation. We have cooperated fully with the NCAA and we have moved deliberately, resisting the urge and pressure to make snap judgments.

    Early on, I thought that it was important to support Coach Davis and to allow time for improvements in the football program. But in the past few months, I became increasingly concerned about the damage being done to our University’s integrity. When we received the NCAA letter of allegations a month ago, I began to think about the need to make a change. After 50 years without any major violations, we are now facing nine allegations. And there are persistent questions about our commitment to academic integrity. In the final analysis, there wasn’t any one thing that tipped my decision. It was the cumulative effect of the football-related events of the past year on the University’s reputation. The only way to move forward and put this behind us was to make a coaching change to restore confidence in the University as well as our football program.

    The difficulty of my decision was compounded by cost (up to $2.7 million under the terms of Coach Davis’ contract – all of which will come from the athletic department) and timing (just before the start of training camp for the team). But the reputation of this University and the integrity of our football program have a value beyond any dollar figure or any timeline disruption. I am committed to maintaining our standing as one of the top public universities in the nation – both in academics and in athletics.

    Athletic Director Dick Baddour and I named Everett Withers, a member of the current staff, as the interim head football coach. His top priority is to help our student-athletes succeed on and off the field and in the classroom. Dick also announced his decision to step down as athletic director before his planned retirement later this year. He offered to leave his job sooner because he feels strongly that our ability to recruit a new head coach depends on having a new athletic director in place to make that hire. I agree with that and reluctantly accepted Dick’s offer. He will serve out his contract through next June, but will step aside and assume other duties when a new athletic director arrives.
    Right now, we’re putting together our response to the NCAA that’s due on September 19. Then we’ll go before the NCAA infractions committee on October 28. We need Dick Baddour with us when we go to Indianapolis to meet with the NCAA. There is no other person I would rather have by my side than Dick.

    One additional issue requires attention this year. I’ve talked to several faculty members recently, including new Faculty Chair Jan Boxill, about the role of the Honor Court. Jan has agreed to pull together a group of respected faculty members who will help us consider changes or improvements to the honor system. We have a long tradition of a strong student-run Honor Court, and of course, we’ll involve students and Student Government representatives in our analysis. Regardless of the situation with football, it just makes good sense to seek ways to improve our commitment to honor and integrity.

    I hope you’ll continue to support our student-athletes and the Tar Heel football team. They will play their hearts out, just like last year.

    Thanks to those of you I’ve heard from on this issue since it began.
    I’ll share more updates as developments warrant. In the meantime, best wishes for a great fall semester.



  18. graywolf 08/05/2011 at 10:31 AM #

    If this {“male starting basketball player” } is true, exposed, and acted upon by the NCAA….it would make me one of the happiest people on this planet.

  19. WolftownVA81 08/05/2011 at 12:06 PM #

    Does NC have a whistle blower protection law and if so, would it extend to criminal acts performed in conjunction with said whistle blowing?

  20. PackerInRussia 08/05/2011 at 3:04 PM #

    “UNC-CH: to seem, rather than to be.”

    Yes, yes, yes. They’ve been allowed to write their own story for too long.

  21. packhammer 08/05/2011 at 4:28 PM #

    I will say this. If it turns out that Joe Cheshire represents Garrett Lee Haywood then we will know that we have indeed been operating in a different time and space continuum for the past year.

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