Friday Findings

August 5th, 2011


Jacey Zembal (TheWolfpacker):
Thursday Practice Report: Front 4 getting challenged

The NC State defense has the goal of getting more pressure from its front four this season and become less reliant on blitzing.

The Wolfpack went from 24 sacks in the 2009 season to 42 last year, an impressive leap. The linebackers and safeties combined for 20 sacks, while defensive tackle J.R. Sweezy led the line with six.

“Don’t get me wrong, we want to pressure and we are going to attack people, but there are going to be times on third down in particular, where we want to get pressure with four down, and we want to play max coverage with five under and two deep,” NC State defensive coordinator Mike Archer said. “We have to get better rushing four, whoever those four guys are, whether it’s three down and a linebacker.

JP Giglio (N&O):
Wolfpack’s special teamers impressing early

O’Brien and Petercuskie have been together for 15 years, the first 10 at Boston College, and neither can remember a season where they’ve had to start over at the three most important special-team positions with “right-off-the-boat” freshmen, as Petercuskie put it.

“I’ve never had anything like it but we’re forced into this,” O’Brien said. “We’re very fortunate. The kids are really mature.”

Brett Friedlander (Wilmington Star):
State gets no love in preseason coaches poll

Apparently the coaches who vote on the USA Today poll aren’t as convinced as their colleague Tom O’Brien about Mike Glennon’s ability to replace Russell Wilson at quarterback for N.C. State.

Despite coming off a nine-win season with veterans returning at virtually every position except quarterback and wide receiver, the Wolfpack was not among the nation’s top 25 teams in the USAToday preseason coaches poll, released Thursday.

Interesting article and video series from
Opening STATEment: Episode 1

On August 2, NC State football returned to the field for the first time since the spring game, as camp opened with a flock of media in attendance. will follow three players: Taylor Gentry, Dean Haynes, and Art Norman, through their camp experience with a behind-the-scenes glimpse into their daily activities.

Each installment of this series will cover the development of Gentry as a senior leader, Haynes as he adjusts to a new position, and Norman as he fights for a spot on the depth chart.


Robbi Pickeral (N&O):
Embattled Tar Heels putting past behind

After an eight-win season marred by an NCAA investigation, many North Carolina players and fans were left asking “What could have been?”

As the Tar Heels open fall practice today, the question morphs into: “What will be?”

Over the past nine days, UNC officials have fired head coach Butch Davis, tabbed former defensive coordinator Everett Withers as interim head coach, promoted former linebackers coach Art Kaufman to defensive coordinator, and announced that athletic director Dick Baddour will resign as soon as a replacement is hired.

Ken Tysiac (N&O):
Thorp: Another Davis misstep

UNC-CH Chancellor Holden Thorp said Thursday he was disappointed that former football coach Butch Davis offered son Drew Davis a football scholarship without consulting with Thorp or athletic director Dick Baddour.

With all the controversy surrounding the Tar Heels football program, Thorp said, it would have been better for Butch Davis to talk with Thorp and Baddour before offering Drew a scholarship.

Thorp also reiterated previous comments that there was no one reason for Davis’ firing on July 27, but rather a “collection of problems” as UNC faces NCAA allegations of nine major violations involving cases of academic misconduct and improper benefits received by football players.

Thorp and other university officials are scheduled to attend an Oct. 28 hearing with the NCAA’s Committee on Infractions to address the violations.

“I found out about that (scholarship offer) a couple months ago when I saw it online,” Thorp said during a telephone interview, “and yes, I was disappointed that neither the athletic director nor I knew about that.”

Ken Tysiac (N&O):
Davis says Thorp didn’t communicate concerns about offer

Former University of North Carolina football coach Butch Davis said in a statement late Thursday night that he believes UNC chancellor Holden Thorp didn’t promptly communicate to Davis any concerns Thorp had about the recruitment of Davis’ son, Drew.

“I’m disappointed Chancellor Thorp has chosen to mention our son publicly as a part of his explanation for the decision to terminate my job,” Davis said. “The first time I was made aware the chancellor had any concerns whatsoever about the recruiting of my son was the Friday before I was fired — and he did not communicate those concerns to me personally. Once I was made aware that he had become uneasy about the situation, I immediately called him to discuss it. I left a message on his voice mail that was not returned.”

Thorp explains Davis dismissal

University of North Carolina Chancellor Holden Thorp explained in an email to students and colleagues Thursday that changing football coaches was the only way for the school to move forward.

Cliff Barnes (Capital sports):
UNC players who cheated are responsible for their own actions

Yes, Butch Davis brought in and trusted John Blake, who was at the center of the NCAA football investigation. And yes, Butch Davis recruited Marvin Austin, who seems to be the biggest violator among the players of NCAA rules. the And yes, Butch Davis was responsible for the football program. But how about the responsibility being on those who committed the violations.

Cliff Barnes (Capital Sports):
Timing of Davis’ ouster curious but should Thorp be gone?

I’m probably in the minority but I liked UNC coach Butch Davis more after the academic controversy surrounding the football team than I did before.

Before the controversy, I thought of Davis as someone who’d really rather be coaching in the pros. After all, every press conference seemed to have some reference to the NFL – whether it was comparing someone on the opposing team with a pro bowl player or just relaying stories from his earlier career.

Andrew Jones (
Mack Brown could heal Heels

North Carolina has an opening for a new athletic director, whose first responsibility will be to hire a new football coach next December.

While the focus in the media and among most UNC fans is on prospective coaches, including Everett Withers, who was named interim coach for this season a few days ago, it should first be on who might be the next AD.

And while some interesting names have been bandied about, including South Carolina AD Eric Hyman, who played football for the Tar Heels, the most intriguing name is Texas football coach Mack Brown.

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51 Responses to Friday Findings

  1. Hungwolf 08/05/2011 at 7:23 AM #

    Coach Davis claims he called Thorpe,he should back that up with some phone records?

    As far as being ranked, I think most coaches know the uncertainty any team faces when breaking in a new QB, no matter how hyped he is. Plus last year our defense had the emotional uplifit of the return of Nate Irving. So we are a bit of an unknown, plus the last couple of years Wilson bought something like an extra 12 seconds in the pocket scrambling around and making plays. Our offensive line won’t have that luxury this year. Other teams will not need to shadow our QB or worry as much about rushing lanes, Glennon will see more pressure. Our O-line will need to step up this year.

    I will add that we most likely will see more quick passes this year. Glennon will not have to move around in the pocket to see downfield like Wilson did. This should be a plus to Bible’s offensive plans.

  2. Greywolf 08/05/2011 at 7:55 AM #

    “Once I was made aware that he had become uneasy about the situation, I immediately called him to discuss it.”

    Butchie, from what I understand HMFT is upset because you acted without a thought to the implications of offering your son a scholarship, without a thought to conferring with your AD, without a thought for “The Carolina Way.” Calling to discuss the this after the fact doesn’t cut it. It may not be the ‘Carolina Way’ but it is the BMFD way. What the HC doesn’t know can’t hurt him is the standard defense he uses. It is natural to follow that what Holden ain’t holdin’ can’t hurt him, either.

    Butch Davis has said so many dumb-assed things I now wonder if HE had a tutor write HIS papers.

    About being ranked: let Beamer, London, et al, prepare like we aren’t to be concerned about. Why do I believe TOB? He isn’t prone to hype. What he says he is concerned about are valid concerns. I’m comfortable with what he doesn’t seem to be concerned about. 44.6 NET yards per punt? Let’s take our chances with that freshman. Our long snapper ‘sounds’ good.

    I had the good fortune of being shone/taught the mechanics of the long snap by Tom Butts who was the LS on some of Holtz’s teams. (Butts came to State as Tommy Christopher but changed his name to that of his mother’s hew husband, an extreme demonstration of respect for a 19 yo college soph.) Never new it was such a technical skill. I like that our guy has spent time in HS developing this skill. This may be a way into the NFL.

  3. BJD95 08/05/2011 at 8:04 AM #

    The most amusing aspect is NO other scholarship offers. Yeah, that certainly sounds like legit, above-board, objective recruiting. LMAO.

    It seems Butch likes “I died for your sins” nonsense that the Hole internet is spawning. It appears that two camps are emerging (or at least are the only ones speaking loudly) – the “Butch did nothing wrong and there must be hell to pay from the pinheads” and “we sold our soul and should field a team essentially made up of glorified walk-ons to bring back the Carolina Way” factions.

    Pass the popcorn, indeed. Schadenfreude Hannukah continues at full blast.

  4. BJD95 08/05/2011 at 8:15 AM #

    And that’s priceless, the notion that Mack Brown would leave Texas to come be Ol Roy’s butt polisher. Because let’s face it, that’s all the next AD will really be able to focus on. Competitive football will be a laughable notion.

  5. YogiNC 08/05/2011 at 8:25 AM #

    I think I’ve figured out the REAL reason BMFD gave his son that scholarship (other than nepotism). Butch was supposedly giving to the Rams club money for a scholarship. If his son got a scholarship that would mean Butch could effectively deduct from his taxes the full cost of his son’s college tuition. Plus his son would get training meals (Dad’s way of reducing his outlay for Jr’s food bill). Just like everything else there IS an alterior motive. The truly sad thing is Butch didn’t see the implications of his action (just like everything else he’s done…Sgt. Schultz lives!!!).

  6. tuckerdorm1983 08/05/2011 at 8:27 AM #

    I see a book coming out of this whole debacle. Title? How about

    “Personal Fouls” Nah thats already been used.


    “Unsportsmanlike conduct”

    “Cheating: My life on and off the field”

    “It was all Blake”

    “All Butch’s men”

    “Chaos in Chapel Hill”

    “Win at any Cost”

  7. Hungwolf 08/05/2011 at 8:49 AM #

    The next AD will have to hire the next football coach, Live through NCAA sanctions, take a beating from the newly empowered academic faction at UNX, and get blamed for running off Roy when he retires. Then get blamed for the next bball coach that is not Roy or Dean. Good Luck to the poor bastard!

  8. lawful 08/05/2011 at 9:05 AM #

    Is it possible that Davis wasn’t aware that a scholarship was offered? Sure fits his mantra.

  9. Lunatic Fringe 08/05/2011 at 9:31 AM #

    Does Thorp read Statefans Nation? I am pretty sure we were the only ones to actually question Butch offering his own son with all the turmoil at UNC.

    At the time (and still for many), Butch does no wrong so they would have been working on the Drew for Heisman campaign already.

  10. IamGumbyDammit 08/05/2011 at 9:37 AM #

    The beauty of Thorp and BMFD’s very public pissing contest, to paraphrase Bill Mahr’s recent comments on another matter, is that at the end it will just be the two of them standing there holding their johnsons.

  11. Lunatic Fringe 08/05/2011 at 9:46 AM #

    “Irvin” Meyer for coach. Mack Brown for AD. I love it.

  12. Lunatic Fringe 08/05/2011 at 9:49 AM #

    Book Title: “Chief Concerns”

  13. Prowling Woofie 08/05/2011 at 9:52 AM #

    or, “Indian Summer”…

  14. mdref 08/05/2011 at 10:08 AM #

    IF BFMD did call Throp and leave a message, WHICH PHONE did he use?
    Let me take a stab in the dark – 216

  15. Gowolves 08/05/2011 at 10:46 AM #

    Looks like Willis is transferring again. Figured might as well jump ship before it gets really bad. This was the guy that committed to UNCheat and then transferred to UCLA and then tried to transfer back to UNCheat. He was a 4 star out of HS I think. Finally the recruits are seeing this cesspool for what it is!

  16. logarithm 08/05/2011 at 10:48 AM #

    According to Dinich, two more players are leaving UNC-CH as of today. Junior CB Mywan Jackson and Soph DT Brandon Willis.

    Jackson was listed at 2nd of 3 on their 2011 depth chart. The guy behind him is a sophomore. No idea how much worse he is than Jackson. Regardless, he was worse when they made the depth chart. Sounds promising for our passing game against them.

    Willis wasn’t listed at all on the chart but he had transferred to UCLA and back to UNC-CH over the summer. He seems like a nonissue for this year.

    Since they promoted a D Coordinator to head coach, I’m hoping that means they were counting on low scoring games. This is bound to limit their options.

    EDIT: Dangit, Gowolves, you beat me to it by 2 minutes!

  17. GAWolf 08/05/2011 at 11:19 AM #

    When the money train came to a screaching halt, it only makes sense the professional players would logically jump off.

  18. cWOhLFrPAiCKs 08/05/2011 at 11:41 AM #

    “I see a book coming out of this whole debacle. Title? How about…”

    For a slight variation on one of yours:

    “All the Chief’s Men”

  19. travelwolf 08/05/2011 at 11:46 AM #

    ^”Why do I believe TOB? He isn’t prone to hype. What he says he is concerned about are valid concerns. ”

    I still remember in 2009 when we won a close game over a ranked team… In the press conference, TOB said that we were NOT a good team. We ended losing a lot more games that year.

    TOB’s been around the block a few times. And, he’ll tell it like it is.

  20. TLeo 08/05/2011 at 11:58 AM #

    That is what I really like about TOB. He doesn’t BS and just lays out the facts as he sees them, whether good or bad. I’m not leting my expectations for this season get out of hand but I am optimistic and it could turn out to be a very good one.

  21. Lunatic Fringe 08/05/2011 at 12:07 PM #

    Personally, I am imagining Thorp looking online this morning to see “Friday Findings” title only to state…now what.


  22. cWOhLFrPAiCKs 08/05/2011 at 12:08 PM #

    It’s wonderful having a coach that you don’t have to read in order to get the real story. Not to mention, he has one of the driest senses of humor I’ve ever seen. The subtle jabs he’s thrown at our neighbors down the road during interviews are priceless.

    To have those two characteristics together in a coach with a proven track record…I don’t know that I could be much happier!

  23. Hungwolf 08/05/2011 at 12:41 PM #

    No more free ride with free parking, free jewelry, free trips, got to write your own papers, and your high school coach mad at you cause he not getting paid anymore. Wouldn’t you transfer to?

  24. JeremyH 08/05/2011 at 12:55 PM #

    tuckerdorm, you reminded of a comment I made almost a year ago:

    JeremyH Says:
    September 10th, 2010 at 12:43 pm

    “Six separate entities investigated Valvano and the NC State basketball program including the NC State Faculty Senate, the North Carolina Attorney General, the University of North Carolina Board of Governors, the NC State Board of Trustees, and the NCAA. None of them found any recruiting or financial improprieties. ”

    where is the Faculty Senate of UNC on the current matter, and what is the AG up to? Does someone want to write Personal Fouls, Part Deux: The Hypocrisy of it All ??

  25. JeremyH 08/05/2011 at 12:57 PM #

    How about “Academic Integrity, what is it good for? Absolutely Nothing!”

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