Dave Glenn says 1st offer to Rick Barnes last time was for less $$$ than he was making at Texas

Glenn on Barnes(not exact words):

-State threw the kitchen sink at Barnes the 2nd offer. Here is the difference between doing it professionally and doing it poorly. The last offer to Barnes was a huge offer. The reality is that the 1st offer from State to Barnes was less than he was making at the Longhorns. Are you kidding me? You want to alienate a candidate? Are you kidding me?….when you are a lesser job, a lesser company then you have to do the convincing. How can your 1st offer be less money than what you are currently making when State was a lateral move where he and his family were established?

The idea that your 1st offer was less compensation is embarrassing and laughable. If you act like a buffoon, then people won’t want to latch themselves onto a buffoon and the rest of the search snowballed from that point with embarrassing public nos.

Yow won’t make the same mistakes.


Link to his twitter account.

Greg_Byrne Greg Byrne

Sean Miller & I have had good talks. He has zero interest in any job openings. We will have no further comment. Let’s go beat Memphis!


Click here for live audio of the Dave Glenn show.

He is about to interview Mike Decourcy who wrote this article yesterday saying Sean Miller wasn’t interested in the NC State job.

With the N.C. State head coaching job at last open, Arizona coach Sean Miller will not be interested in the position.

A source close to the U of A program told Sporting News that Miller does not want the job of replacing Sidney Lowe, who resigned Tuesday. Miller is pleased with the rapid development of the program at Arizona, which resulted in a Pacific-10 Conference championship in his second season.

So far today, Dave Glenn has called Debbie Yow one of the best athletic directors in the country despite what Gary Williams and journalist/Dookie John Feinstein have had to say about her.


Nothing earth shattering here. Decourcy gave the same spiel why coaches won’t take our job. He mentioned that Sean Miller has no reason to leave although I didn’t hear him mention family ties to NC that definitely exist. He also mentioned UNC and Duke being obstacles even though Sendek’s own performance at ASU has proven that being near Duke and UNC was actually a huge advantage for him as a coach. Sendek’s recruiting has dropped off significantly since he moved thousands of miles away from Roy Williams and Coach K.

He did mention Mick Cronin as a good hire for NC State.

I saw someone put this together somewhere else that highlights just how attractive NC State is to top level recruits even with boring personalities like Herb Sendek and a failing, inexperienced coach like Sidney Lowe.

Here are Sendek’s classes:

1st class – Thornton(top 60), Wells, Gainey (Sendek got the commitment from Thornton)
2nd class – Miller(top40), Inge(top 60), Ron Kelly(top 60), C. Williams. R. Thomas, Ron Anderson(?),
3rd class – Adam Harrison(#25), K. Bean(#64), Anthony Grundy, Anthony Grundy(1st team all-ACC)
4th class – M. Williams(#33), D. Wilkins(#11), C. Crawford(#81)
5th class – S. Sherril(#38), M. Melvin(#98), Mike Bell(#95), Trey Guidry
6th class – Hodge(#7), Evtimov, Powell(#65), Collins and Watkins(#60)
7th class – Flatt, Mejia, Simons, Bennerman(#84)
8th class – Atsur(top 50), Mike O’Donell
9th class – Grant(#78), C. Simmons(#34), Brackman(#60)
10th class – Costner(#22), Fells(#35), McCauley
11th class – D. Werner(#94), L. Davis, D. Horner

Lowe’s top 100 players:
#9 JJ Hickson
#62 Tracy Smith
#60 Richard Howell
#80 D. Painter
#12 CJ Leslie
#22 Ryan Harrow
#26 Lorenzo Brown


NBA players recruited by State:
Josh Powell
Damien Wilkins
Julius Hodge(gun shot injury didn’t help his career)
Cedric Simmons
Adam Harrington
Anthony Grundy
JJ Hickson
CJ Leslie(likely this year anways)

all-ACC guys that didn’t make the NBA
Marcus Melvin
CC Harrison
Tracy Smith
Brandon Costner
Cameron Bennerman

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94 Responses to Dave Glenn says 1st offer to Rick Barnes last time was for less $$$ than he was making at Texas

  1. Gowolves 03/16/2011 at 12:43 PM #

    I refuse to listen to this guy’s non-sense. Nor will I listen to DG spew his UNC biased opinions.

  2. PackisRolling 03/16/2011 at 12:50 PM #

    decourcy – suggests Mick Cronin as coach and Glenn just laughed.

  3. wolfy85 03/16/2011 at 12:55 PM #

    He just compared NC State competing with UNC/Duke in hoops to Miss St competing with Alabama in football, and said essentially that it will never happen. Anyone else not understand that comparison at all?

  4. bradleyb123 03/16/2011 at 1:02 PM #

    And just because a source says Miller is not interested…. means he’s not interested?

    I’m not saying he is. But this can really be taken with a grain of salt IMO. Of course Miller is going to say this at this point. He has an NCAA tournament to focus on right now.

  5. STLPack01 03/16/2011 at 1:08 PM #

    There’s going to be a lot of people eating massive portions of crow when this thing is all said and done.

  6. Howler 03/16/2011 at 1:15 PM #

    He said he could think of at least 20 head coaching jobs off the top of his head better than NC State’s. Really? Are there that many schools with multiple national championships, great facilities, great compensation and located within the nation’s biggest hotbed for college hoops? We have everything except a coach. It is the only missing piece. Yes, it is difficult to compete with Duke and UNC, but that has always been the case dating back to Everett Case. That’s what makes it a great job.

    All I kept thinking while listening to DeCourcy is that Lee Fowler really, really screwed up the perception of our program. But I believe it can fixed almost as quickly as it was screwed up. It will be amazing what a good hire and some quality wins will do.

    As for the Alabama football analogy, I guess Auburn should just give up. Oh, that’s right, they’re National Champions!

  7. LifeLongWolf 03/16/2011 at 1:17 PM #

    ^STLPack01: You’re right. I just hope that the ones eating crow aren’t us.

  8. tvp1 03/16/2011 at 1:20 PM #

    One of the things that is so dumb about ranking jobs is that how good a job is depends a ton on how much it pays…you know, just like every other job in the world.

    Our job probably isn’t top 20 if the coach is getting paid what Sidney was getting paid, but it’s damn sure top 20 if we up the ante the way I think we are going to.

  9. Daily Update 03/16/2011 at 1:21 PM #

    The whole “better job” thing is so ridiculous anyways. There are lots of similar jobs to NC State. Then there are elite jobs like UNC, Duke, UK, Kansas and UCLA. After 5-10 programs, the next 25-30 are all about the same in terms of “job” or ability to win. The difference maker in those 25-30 programs comes down to who has the best head coach.

  10. Wulfpack 03/16/2011 at 1:25 PM #

    The timing just doesn’t seem to be right for Miller. He wanted this job 5 years ago. But he is doing great things at Arizona and he just got started. I just don’t see him as the type of guy to pick up and leave. He’s got integrity and the Arizona job is a very good job. I’d love to have him but the timing is just off. Now Turgeon is a different story.

  11. redsteel 03/16/2011 at 1:26 PM #

    Couldn’t Miller squash this right now if “he” said he had no interest?Sources quoting him and the A.D. answering for him are not the same in my view.

  12. MrPlywood 03/16/2011 at 1:27 PM #

    Isn’t it interesting that Arizona led the regular season standings in the PAC-10 yet only managed to get a 5 seed, and Washington, 3rd in the regular season and tourney champs, only got a 7 seed. Hey Sean, come to State and see where you get seeded when you win the ACC tourney!

  13. jbpackfan 03/16/2011 at 1:29 PM #

    Nobody has quoted Miller yet. Just the AD and a “source inside the program” (probably the AD)

  14. PackisRolling 03/16/2011 at 1:34 PM #

    Nobody has quoted Miller yet. Just the AD and a “source inside the program” (probably the AD)


  15. jbpackfan 03/16/2011 at 1:44 PM #

    Why is that reaching? It’s factually accurate. Miller hasn’t said anything.

  16. cWOhLFrPAiCKs 03/16/2011 at 1:48 PM #

    Did we really offer Barnes less than he was making at Texas?!? Wow, Lee Fowler…you really screwed us…

  17. PackisRolling 03/16/2011 at 1:48 PM #

    It just reminds me of Lloyd’s chances being 1 in a million – “so you’re saying there’s a chance…”

    I’m dying to have SM but there just seems to be no reason to believe it’s going to happen.

  18. PackisRolling 03/16/2011 at 1:50 PM #

    from @DavidGlennShow: Here’s one from DG on Rick Barnes from the last search 5 years ago.. State’s 1st offer was less than what Barnes was making at the time.

    please tell me this is not true.

  19. mwcric 03/16/2011 at 1:56 PM #

    Well, I’m going to be eviscerated here, but I don’t understand why Miller would leave Arizona for NC State. Saying one job is head and shoulders above the other isn’t accurate in my opinion. They’re both major conference programs with good histories, and frankly Arizona’s history over the past 20 years blows NC State’s out of the universe – and unfortunately I would imagine recruits care more about the last 10-20 years than what happened 30-40 years ago. Arizona has plenty of selling points – great campus in a great town, flagship institution of the state, national brand recognition. Plus the school is pretty much alone with UCLA at the top of the conference year in and year out, with Washington a half-step behind. He’s made tremendous strides in two years and has a top-notch recruiting class coming in. I’m sure he’s being paid well. Seems to me if being near family was so important to him he never would’ve gone to Arizona in the first place. It’s not like that would’ve been his only shot at coaching at a big-time program, and he wasn’t toiling in anonymity at Xavier, a school with great tradition just outside the door of the big-time programs. I don’t think recognizing that he’s got a good thing at Arizona and wants to stay equates to NC State being a crap job that nobody could possibly want, and I certainly don’t think him electing to stay at ‘Zona would be a slight to NCSU.

  20. Wolfy__79 03/16/2011 at 2:01 PM #

    we are now certain our next coach is coaching this weekend at the ncaa’s. the list shrank yesterday to those how have the “can do” personality she referred to. out of respect to all of these coaches and their teams this is a “quiet” process. at this point, no ad at any of these coaches schools knows jack! u of a isn’t any different, they will be throwing incentives at miller just like anyone else who wants to be “competitive..” need proof, just look to these comments.. that’s what it says to me!

  21. newt 03/16/2011 at 2:05 PM #

    This DeCourcey guy never raised his hand in class, never asked a girl to dance, never dove off the high dive, never put the pedal to the floor on a straight piece of road…

  22. rtpack24 03/16/2011 at 2:10 PM #

    Barnes told Fowler that due to the timing he would have to act quickly and to bring him the best offer he could, reason being he was in the middle of extending his contract with Texas. So Fowler comes with a low ball offer that Barnes turned down immediately because it was not even what he was making much less when he renewed. That was on a Thurs. so Fowler calls back on Sun with a real offer, which Barnes would have accepted a few days earlier but it was to late because he had committed to Texas on his new deal. What a difference between our present AD and our old AD.

  23. lsutton5144 03/16/2011 at 2:17 PM #

    A professional presentation, which we will now have, and the right amount of money will get Rick Barnes to NCSU. Anybody know anything about his buyout?

  24. Wulfpack 03/16/2011 at 2:17 PM #

    It could be that Miller hasn’t commented because, you ‘now, he is busy preparing his team for the NCAA Tournament. Just a guess.

    I expect Debbie to reach out to him and try to sell him on the position. Shouldn’t take much selling as he knows what we are all about. But this one is all about timing.

  25. mafpack 03/16/2011 at 2:17 PM #

    ^^ I thought this information was public knowledge even during the last coaching search. It was part of why we were so angry back then. Anyways, glad its being handled correctly now (we hope).

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