There has been a lot of discussion, on our forums andÂ NC StateÂ blogs all around,Â about the current state of NC State basketball and where we have been in recent history compared to where we were decades ago.Â As a younger fan (Born in the mid-1980’s, Class of 2009), I have had to suffer through the knowledge that our “happiest” moments were going to a Sweet Sixteen while my parents and the older generations always spoke about the “Glory Days” in the 1970’s and 1980’s with National Championships and multiple ACCT runs.
Fortunately, a few of these old geezers managed toÂ pack enoughÂ Ginkgo BilobaÂ to educate me a little before I made stupid claims.Â Chiefly, that NC State was “really, really good when Sendek was taking NC State to 5-straight NCAA tournaments”.Â Here is an excerpt to a response from what I perceived to be such a claim.
This is from a guy a bit younger than you, [Poster’s Name Hidden]…. that was one of the dumbest things I have ever read with regards to NC State basketball and it is exactly the reason why I don’t blame older fans for having stereotypes of us youngins.
I mean, seriously? …
“The “streak” of Elite 8s you speak of was a whopping 2 in ’85 & ’86.”
So you are stating that the 5 NCAAT in the 80’s were less impressive because there were only two elite eights?Â Newsflash: two is more than zero.Â You are saying that the 1983 Championship was a miracle.Â You are almost dismissing the talent of the 1983 team just because you see it as “a miracle”.Â So what make 1983 luck more than 2005?Â You know who we had to beat to get to the Sweet Sixteen?Â UNC-freaking-Charlotte and a UConn team that was coming off losing players to winning the National Championship the previous year.
PS, in 2005, we lost to Wisconsin in classic… classicHerb Sendek fashion by gaining a 9pt lead at the half, then letting them run up the score on us in the second half.Â Even the droopy-dog face of Sendek couldn’t save us then.
Ok, so maybe that was a bit insulting (and I apologize upfront for singling out a particular post from a fellow NC State fan), but come on, folks.Â It is undeniable that NC State is a national program, historically, and still has a right to be a national program. ESPN/Saragin computes the all-time rankings based on every program’s level of success.Â Despite the past 20 years, NC State is still the 22 best program in the country.Â That puts us right in front of ‘Cuse and right behind ‘Nova after basically not winning at all in the area of titles in the last 2 decades.
Now do not be confused: this is not some hack piece on a former coach.Â What this has to do with is the increasing distance between the older generation of NC State basketball fans and the newer generation.Â The fact that a comparison would even be made between the 2002-2006 NCAAT streak and 1985-1989 NCAAT streak says it all.
To conclude, I just want to say this: younger fans, do not accept any of the utter crap that is unloaded on you by the sports media that somehow NC State should be happy with what it can get.Â What a load.Â Instead, take the time to actually determine whyNC State finds itself in it’s current predicament and then ask yourself why NC State shouldn’t expect to be a nationally competitive program.Â To the older fans, have patience with the younger.Â There is a generation gap at NC State unlike any at other basketball institutions.Â It’s not the fault of the younger crowd that the NC State administration and Board of Governors have done an effective job of cryogenicly freezing the NC State program.Â Try to understand where they are coming from but, by God, don’t let them get away with this stupid concept that somehow NC State needs to “know their place” or should “accept what they can get”.