Pack rolls 111-73; Freshman trio score 51 points

From J.P. Giglio of the N&O:

As promised, the team played faster and the freshmen trio made quite an impression in the rout at Reynolds Coliseum.

Lorenzo Brown, Ryan Harrow and C.J. Leslie each scored 17 points in the Wolfpack’s final warm-up before the regular season starts on Friday.

“We’ve been waiting for this a long time,” said Harrow, who added a team-best eight assists off the bench. “It’s pretty crazy that we all scored 17 points.”

Not only did the freshman score almost half of NC State’s points, but they also contributed 16 of our 26 assists(Harrow 8, Brown 6) while only committing 5 turnovers(Brown 4, Harrow 1). It was Pfeiffer and the real tests come later in November and December, however there was a noticeable increase in overall talent on the court last night. While the freshman were each outstanding, the veterans didn’t disappoint either. Scott Wood went 4 for 9 from behind the arc to finish with 14 points, Tracy Smith added 17 points, and Richard Howell corralled 10 rebounds. Even C.J. Williams played well in the 2nd half giving the Pack a 6th player in double figures.

Initially Lorenzo Brown’s size, fluidity, skills and athleticism stood as he got off to a quick start with a couple of 3’s and an alley oop dunk. However, Ryan Harrow was near perfect on the night(his 1 turnover was an offensive foul). His ability to penetrate and then score or dish is rare…floaters in traffic, bank shots from tough angles, or passes to open teammates for easy scores. He did it all as he continued to show the type of instincts and ability to read plays before they happen.

Lowe’s team had never once broken the century mark in his previous 4 years at NC State. Here is an interesting stat from Gopack:

A smiling Lowe talked extensively about his team’s up-tempo style, a break from his first four years when the Pack broke the 90-point barrier just two times in 133 regular-season and postseason games.

Game summary from Gopack

Sidney Lowe, Leslie, and Harrow interviews here.

-Box score

10-11 Basketball NC State Sidney Lowe

68 Responses to Pack rolls 111-73; Freshman trio score 51 points

  1. BladenWolf 11/10/2010 at 10:14 AM #

    This season should be very interesting is watching three exciting freshman play their game while freeing up our veterans to operate more effectively. If Coach manages the team chemistry well and game plan effectively, we will certainly return to the dance. I have a sense of realistic excitement (not my typical loyal optimism) that I have not had in recent years.

  2. Statefan1998 11/10/2010 at 10:18 AM #

    I understand that the starters last night were a bit suprising? I have to think that come the season opener the starters will be

    1. Javi
    2. Brown
    3. Leslie
    4. Smith
    5. Howell (based on many comments concerning Painter and Vandenburg)

  3. Alpha Wolf 11/10/2010 at 10:24 AM #

    ^ Looking at the box score from last night, it would certainly seem that Harrow was more effective that Gonzalez, outscoring him while playing seven fewer minutes. Harrow scored 17 in 20 minutes, Javi 5 in 27. Javi did grab 3 rebounds to Harrow’s 1, but Harrow had 8 assists to Javi’s 5.

    Further, it’s clear that Harrow is quicker from what I saw, and if Lowe wants to run uptempo, he’s going to need a PG who can run and make good decisions on the move.

  4. Statefan1998 11/10/2010 at 10:27 AM #

    Alpha, I have always been torn about that topic. I think Lowe wants Harrow to start. I was a lot suprised that Leslie did not start last night.

    I think it would be safe to say that Brown, Leslie, and Smith will start Harrow/Javi at the point and Howell, Vandenburg, and Painter at the 5.

  5. Daily Update 11/10/2010 at 10:28 AM #

    The other thing to think about is that it might not matter who starts. Guys on the bench could end up getting more minutes than the starters depending on how they play. Maybe starting Wood, Javi, Howell and Smith is good for chemistry? Maybe Lowe will handle the egos much better than he did in year 2 with Hickson?

    The freshman who I can see coming off the bench is Leslie. Wood is such a great all-around basketball player and a great shooter that you almost have to have him on the court. His presence helps everyone else on the court. That isn’t the case with Leslie playing small forward.

    I can’t see Smith or Wood not being in our lineup in crunchtime. Smith for obvious reasons, but Wood because his defender cannot help if one of the guards penetrates or if ball goes down low to Smith or Howell. With Harrow, Brown and Wood on the court, then it will be hard for perimeter defenders to help on the blocks. Not to mention, Harrow and Brown are going to be able to penetrate drawing defenders away from the 4 and 5 guys for easy scores.

    It is a totally different team from last year in terms of ability.

    My best lineup:

    1. Harrow
    2. Brown
    3. Wood
    4. Howell
    5. Smith

    When Harrow and Brown struggle, we have veterans in Williams and Javi available. Or Wood can slide to the two.

    If Smith gets in foul trouble which killed us last year because he was our main scorer, then we have the depth to be OK defensively when he comes out and we have the scorers at other positions that his absence shouldn’t hurt us offensively that much.

    Leslie might play some 3, 4, and 5 providing depth at 3 positions.

    It is a really solid collection of talent, youth, experience, athleticism and depth built with three good recruiting classes.

  6. Alpha Wolf 11/10/2010 at 10:37 AM #

    Also, isn’t there a lot of talk about moving Javi to the 2-guard position, where he can be more effective?

  7. WULF 11/10/2010 at 10:40 AM #

    anyone have pics of the upgrades made to Reynold’s? It looks as if the center-hung scoreboard is gone, and has been replaced by a board between the benches on the floor. Is that the only videoboard in the building, and if so, what reason would anyone have for sitting in the stands behind it (aside from intimidating the visitors)?

  8. Statefan1998 11/10/2010 at 10:41 AM #

    DU, I respect your opinion and see your point, but I don’t think Leslie came here to come off the bench.

    I have always thought Wood was a bit overrated. I know I am in the minority with that opinion.

  9. 61Packer 11/10/2010 at 10:50 AM #

    Statefan1998, I agree 100% with what you said about Wood.

  10. Daily Update 11/10/2010 at 10:52 AM #

    Overrated how? Agree with Master’s comment below.

  11. Master 11/10/2010 at 10:53 AM #

    Corchiani and Monroe did not start at the beginning their freshman season. As the season went on Corchiani became the starting PG, but Monroe was a 6th or 7th man all the way thru the NCAA tourney subbing just before or after Kelsey Weems.

    I’m OK bringing Leslie and Harrow guys off the bench. In due time they will prove their ability to start over seasoned upper classmen. Until then, they will get their minutes – maybe the same number as if they started – and make their impact.

    No need to rush at this point. Humility can be an asset.

  12. Statefan1998 11/10/2010 at 11:01 AM #

    2009-10 STATS
    7.8 1.4 .373 2.9 0.5 0.7

    Those were his stats. I think a lot of people want a Larry Bird. He is simple not that good. State fans tend to remember the FSU game in forming their opinion of him. This is just my thought on the matter.

    With Leslie you add a dynamic scorer and athlete that can play against the Barnes and Singler.

  13. Alpha Wolf 11/10/2010 at 11:02 AM #

    ^ Excellent point.

    Starting in hoops is a bit underrated. It’s not like soccer where you get three substitutions per game and when you change a player out he is gone for the rest of the game.

  14. Wisc-Wolf 11/10/2010 at 11:06 AM #

    Got a chance to go the game last night and Brown looked the most comfortable on the floor, but Harrow and Leslie seemed to settle in as the night went on. Harrow is going to be fun to watch. The one dissapointment was the rebounding. Until late in the game they were outrebounding us and at the end our rebounding advantage was slight. We towered over this team on the floor and should have had a much wider margin in that area. It also seemed that Pfiefer got to more loose balls.

  15. packalum44 11/10/2010 at 11:08 AM #

    Harrow might be the best player on the team. Talk about overrated…Javi G. No idea why fans make emotional evaluations of him. Wow cool he’s an emotional Peurto Rican who’s an underdog who bounces balls off his foot when trying to beat simple two man traps. Guess he symbolizes our school better than someone with Chris Paul talent skills.

  16. Statefan1998 11/10/2010 at 11:09 AM #

    One thing that I would like to see by the new year is a rotation. Was it just me or did the rotation of players always seem inconsistent. I think if you form a rotation the players know what to expect in their roles.

    1. Harrow
    2. Brown
    3. Leslie
    4. Howell
    5. Smith
    6. Wood
    7. Javi
    8. Williams
    9. Painter

  17. Clarksa 11/10/2010 at 11:09 AM #

    “Those were his stats. I think a lot of people want a Larry Bird. He is simple not that good.”

    I think a lot of people realize he was pretty damn good for a freshman.

  18. Prowling Woofie 11/10/2010 at 11:12 AM #

    At this point (after first collegiate game) in their development, Wood is simply a better defender at the 3, and his stroke last night was pretty smooth (4 of 9 from the arc). Having him as a spot-up shooting threat for the kick out pass is invaluable to keeping the lane free.

    Not saying there won’t be match-ups that call for Leslie to start over him down the road, but until Leslie gets a better feel for the total team defensive concept, Wood is the steadier option to start.

    Leslie still got 20 minutes last night. 8-9 guys should get plenty of minutes with this squad. There shouldn’t be any griping about minutes and opportunities.

  19. Statefan1998 11/10/2010 at 11:13 AM #

    44, he is all or nothing. I see your point concerning Javi. Sometimes you get the Duke game, more often you get the GT ACC tour. game. The bad part is more often than not you get the GT game.

  20. Daily Update 11/10/2010 at 11:14 AM #

    3-POINT FG PCT (MIN 2.0 PG)
    1. Kyle Singler-DU JR .415%
    2. Greivis Vasquez-MD .398
    3. Brian Oliver-GT FR .381
    4. Will Graves-NC JR .378
    5. Jon Scheyer-DU SR .366
    6. Andre Young-CU SO .356

    Wood’s percentage last year was right in line with the best shooters in the conference. That was with defenders literally in his shorts the entire season and a couple of bad shooting streaks. And regardless of how well he shoots, he is very solid all-around player.

    It will be interesting to see how it develops.

  21. Statefan1998 11/10/2010 at 11:15 AM #

    I will just have to respectfully disagree with the majority on the Scott Wood issue.

  22. Alpha Wolf 11/10/2010 at 11:16 AM #

    ^ Javi is killed by speed, and the reason why he excelled against Duke is because he wasn’t always a step behind. I really doubt Harrow will have that problem. Harrow will make his own mistakes, sure, but he can keep pace with most everyone in the conference.

  23. JEOH2 11/10/2010 at 11:19 AM #

    98…I agree his stats aren’t earth shattering and he’s not Larry Bird or even Adam Morrison…but its his defense I find that makes him valuable and we all know that good (even great), consistant defense often doesn’t show up in stats…

    Plus lets not discount the fact a freshman who averaged 8 points a game and shoots 37% from 3 improves even just a little bit each year, then he becomes that more dangerous and valuable to his team…

    that being said…Leslie should start…

  24. Statefan1998 11/10/2010 at 11:19 AM #

    Alpha, no doubt about that…the question is, in your opinion who should and who will start at the point?

  25. Statefan1998 11/10/2010 at 11:25 AM #

    JEO, that is how I should of stated my thoughts.

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